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In the series, I kept thinking Kao was acting that stiffly to make his character seem Not Quite Right because he was hiding something. As it turns out, what he was hiding was that he only exists to be a fantasy bf for a middle-aged female writer who inserted herself into the story as Gene, and Gene only exists for that purpose. So neither main character is really a character, which is probably why it's impossible to give a flying f@#$ what happens to them.

The first ep is pretty bad - they really should have rethought it. I came sooo close to dropping. Nite II grew on me fast, and Tae is so beautiful after the post-Ep 8 hiatus that it kept me going. I feel bad for all these small productions that had to work around COVID.

That's a really good point. What kind of fujoshi hasn't ever watched a BL? We should send her a link to Fish Upon the Sky.

Well, I can't argue with that - this show is like bad fanfic, and I've been told it actually is a an adapation of bad fanfic (!)

There's nothing wrong with liking people - I didn't mean it as an insult or criticism. I didn't see the in-jokey side of it because I'd never heard of them until this series. I don't really think they're comparable to Louis Armstrong or the ladies in Jack of Diamonds. Have they done anything besides be attractive, gay, and in a relationship? How do you hear about people like them? (Not sarcasm, I'm asking.)

My problem in general with the series is that there are way too many characters, and my only point is that their role is too small to justify their presence. They don't have to have relationship drama, they can face an external issue, or be more woven into the main story. They're neither playing themselves or playing character roles. They're playing characters as themselves. That's not really either a celebrity cameo or acting, so it comes of to me as pure marketing.

One of them could have worked at the office in place of one of the other minor characters (e.g. the HR director) or any number of solutions. Maybe it's just a writing issue, but their advice always sounds like it came off a greeting card, and it's not really affecting the story. Maybe it will and I should just be patient.

There are five pairs in this story - that's too many. The only episode that really grabbed me was this last one which was devoted almost entirely to one couple.

I think the director should make them take a few shots of tequila before kissing scenes so they loosen up. Kao seems to think moving incredibly slowly = sensual, but it's actually just moving incredibly slowly.

Gene & Sib aren't terrible, but I'm not feeling it. Maybe it's because BLs are determined to have ukes behave like they hate sex or being touched. The way Gene backs away from Sib as if he's scared is ridiculous after being together for 2 years - it's not like he's a virgin anymore. Another reason why the seme/uke thing should be thrown out and just have two people.

100% agree - well, 99%, I was 1% hoping for Tum in one of those form-fitting knit shirts, but we didn't get that either. Aey & Mork were a much more compelling couple even though they weren't ever together in this. Bruce is such an amazing actor that you could feel the damage, the toxicity, and the basically good person underneath all that. In the main series his character would have been a 2D villain with a less skilled actor portraying him.

I'm not sure about Chap yet - I can't tell if his acting is good or if it's just that he's so hot that there's apparent chemistry with everything that comes near him. I can certainly say that I never get tired of him...

If anyone is wondering if they should watch this, I would say you don't need to - you really aren't missing anything. There is no relationship development, the writing is a mess, and it really doesn't make sense. The basic lines of the plot do, but nothing else does - the writer seems unable to tell the difference between manipulation, pranking, lying, and having fun, because they're all mashed together as "lying". If you love Gene & Sib and can't get enough, then you may like it.

Warning: Tum doesn't wear even one form-fitting shirt, so prepare for disappointment.

It was a struggle to get through it for me. Slow and boring, except for about 10 minutes towards the end.

Then we got a few minutes of pointless Aoey & Mork, which nevertheless felt like a glimpse into a different and much, much better story. Bruce is such an amazing actor - even that brief scene felt like a breath of fresh air.

I felt more chemistry between Aoey and Mork, even though they were never in the same scene, than I do from Gene & Sib, which feels like two Mannequins posed to imitate love. There's something mechanical about even their kissing, as the montage at the end underscored - they only thing different in each vignette was their clothes. No passion at all - just by the way their bodies are separated while they're kissing instead of pressed together like people who actually want to touch each other.

That feels 100% correct - thanks.

It was a little slow at times. I thought the anime part dragged on forever, and if the two leads weren't so incredibly attractive and hot together a lot of their scenes would have felt long. I was actually starting to get tired of the last scene until THAT happened.

They didn't do much, but that was the sexiest interaction between a couple I've seen on a BL since... ever. These two should be the main pair in all the BLs.

Why is it always the case that when people are actually speaking English, the subtitles re-translate them, usually into worse English/

Anyway, their accents are so sexy. Also, they keep talking about how hot Sat is, and he's super-cute, but has anyone actually SEEN Choke? That man is gorgeous. Although Sat looked hot dressed as a boy with a distinctly man body.

Choke & Sat have really great chemistry - like the best I've seen. I was actually really hot & bothered when they were just sitting at the edge of the pool. When that thing that happened at the end happened, I nearly burst into flame. That was extremely not-BL in the best way.

I like that this series is willing to push the limits and have adults act like adults. Even if they chose an 11-year old trapped in a man's body to do it. Although it's not like any boy isn't doing that at 11. Usually not to someone else, but then there was a boy I fooled around with when I was even younger than that. He was Mormon. That would make a great game show. "Gay, or Mormon?" It's really hard to tell.

I'm starting to lose my patience for this series - I like that they're doing something different, but it's turning into an extended episode of Scooby Doo. I almost expect the last line to be "And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those darned kids!!!"

I really actively dislike all the side characters - especially Mesa, and Kaew was even annoying at the accident.

However, we got to see more of sweaty naked tied-up Kim, so all is not lost. Peter's body is so amazing. They continue to play with the seme/uke thing - it's funny, Tha said Kim was being crude when he was behaving like a seme, but then did exactly the same thing himself when he turned it back around. The dialog in that scene made no sense, so I wonder if there was a mistranslation. It came off as "I can't open my heart to you, but I will f@#$ you now."

Well, I said "tempted". :) I'm not going to be able to resist staring at Pond for 45 minutes, not to mention Neo.

That doesn't look great, but I would need to see what came before to make a definitive judgment - he may have asked permission to touch them or something mitigating that puts it in a more positive light.

However, he still directed Nitiman and Oxygen and there's nothing that can make that OK. :)

I took from it that he was showing them how to angle their heads - turn one way then the other - you can see Jom practicing it immediately after.

I generally don't like to make strong judgments based on a brief clip taken out of a larger context. Did he just walk up to them and mash their heads together? Or had he tried to verbally explain and they didn't get it? Did he ask for permission before touching them? We don't know.

It doesn't look great as it is, but unless we see what came before I don't think there's anything conclusive to take from it.

All fine, but then why have them in the show? What purpose do they serve except to consume screen time, which is already insufficient for the huge cast? I don't see what's melodramatic at all about calling them "viewer-bait" - it's not melodramatic at all, it's a rational analysis.

You seem to be very invested with this couple, so the producers were correct in their marketing strategy.

Yikes! What did he do (other than direct this and Oxygen - that's two strikes)?

I want to support this show, but I'm losing patience. First, I have no idea what's going on, and second, it's just people sitting around talking with poor sound. There's a scene where Nico is walked home by another guy - Prince is obviously unhappy, and then the scene ends and Nico's meeting the guy for breakfast. What we would have wanted to see was whatever Prince discussed with Nico as a result, but nope, we went to new guy throwing cheesy lines at Nico

Also, the only plot devices used for drama or character interaction are 1) crashing into each other, and 2) people getting randomly beat up and rescued. If I lived in that neighborhood, I'd be very careful before rounding a corner, because 100% of the time, there is somoene in a huge hurry there. We need a lot more showing and less telling, but the showing is the same thing over and over again.

Also, this is the second time the subtitles gave out about a third into the third part (of 3), so now I have to remember to go back to it later. I don't mind waiting until their done, but don't post it as Engsub if it's not.

I'll give it one more chance with Ep 3, but if it doesn't improve, I'm dropping it.

I was like Teh in High School and I put a lot of pressure on my Oh'Aew, and it caused a major counterreaction (he joined the marines). This series is going to be really painful for me to watch.