So episode 2 was the first episode to feature flashbacks? I remember the last director saying they weren't needed…
That actually bothered me a lot - it yanked me out of the story and cheapened the production. It's not a deal-breaker, but I hope they don't keep doing it.
Teh really needs to learn how to be more supportive as a boyfriend/friend and not immediately take their very…
Teh was in the wrong for sure, but Oh was excluding him from major decisions and drastic change under those circumstances is bound to make your partner feel like they're losing you. His reaction was realistic and authentic to me, although he took way too long to process his feelings about it.
The moon isn't a romantic symbol in this series - it's an ominous one. The moon is always changing - rising, setting, waxing, waning... even it's color isn't consistent. I have a feeling we're in for a rough ride.
the lines on the last part were so good! i felt it and eventually understood how Teh really feels. The writer…
I was a little taken out of it by the numerous unnecessary flashbacks, but I agree. Although I instantly knew how Teh felt from the tattoo scene - I may be somewhat like him - when someone changes, especially if they didn't involve you in the change, you can feel like you're losing them.
Not all watchers may like this, and relatability plays a big part in how viewers perceive this show. I watched…
Do people hate this on twitter? I don't think it's as good as ITSAY, but I don't hate it (I'm older, BTW). It doesn't have the same magic for me, and Teh isn't as much of a weirdo anymore, which I loved. But it's still the second best BL ever...
Do older people call anything toxic? I think us older people are really, really tired of hearing younger people call anything involving any imperfect human being making a mistake "toxic".
Anyone who isn't making mistakes is probably not doing anything at all - or maybe people are mad at themselves for their mistakes and deflect their anger onto other impefect people. But BL audiences don't seem to be the forgiving types.
Of course the boys were childish in ITSAY. They were children - how else would they be?
I related to ITSAY for my teenage experiences, and I related to IPYTM for my college experiences - and I was a music major so it's particularly poignant.
But I don't think you need to relate to specific circumstance in a series to love it - you have to be able to relate to the human condition. Teh was the most wrong in this ep, but Oh was also not including his partner in his life and decisions, which can make someone feel like they're losing you. We've all had that feeling at some time or other, even if not exactly like these circumstances.
Anyway, I love both series for different reasons. I think maybe there are some segments of the BL audience that are used to and prefer the ritualistic fantasies that characterize mainstream BL, where cute boys are cute to each other and are perfect in the way they treat each other (except at first when they are obligatory enemies - but once they're together. any misteps are unforgivable).
I really fell in love with this drama and the acting of the main lead.And to answer some comments : yes, it is…
My reaction to this series' first episode was fairly negative - it felt like BL by the numbers. But it's won me over, largely because Hank is so cute I feel like I'm dying whenever he's onscreen. He's also a good actor.
I can not believe you wrote this nonsense, Do you realy think that good looking people like only people in their…
If you re-read what I wrote, I actually didn't say anything about anyone being in anyone's league - I thought the pairing was fine. I was just commenting that I thought the tall lead was super-good looking. But his looks weren't enough for me to care about the story. I generally don't care at all about looks - that's one of the worst things about Thai BL - they cast people for looks instead of acting ability (and that's not even getting into their horrible bias in favor of actors with light skin).
My issue was simply that this story had nothing to say and offered nothing original - just a checklist of worn-out BL tropes.
I would be angry too if someone wrote what you thought I wrote, so don't worry, we're still on the same page about most things. :)
But i am confused about Seme/uke thing in this ep. Like who is seme and who is uke here. First Mesa told Kaew…
Kim is the uke, but Met misunderstood a situation and thought Kim was the seme. They're making fun of the dynamic, which is one of the worst things about BL - relationships aren't like that. Sometimes there is no top or bottom, and sometimes (maybe even usually) the bottom is the boss. I was in a relationship like that.
They did the same thing as with Brothers - they cut out THE crucial scene that we slogged through 12 episodes for and made the show totally meaningless. The cut scene makes this BL. Without it it's really more of a bromance.
The secondary storyline resolution is also cut, which is also bizarre as it's needed. It's nice to see that Voice broke It - it's cute.
What are they thinking? Brothers had the actual romantic resolution scene cut, which made the last episode incomprehensible.
Your basis is just because of COVID situation. Well, having a season actor to play the role, it's just exciting…
The production values seem higher in this - the production issues in Quaranthings didn't really bother me much because Royce Cabrera was on my screen (just kidding. But not really.) and the writing & acting were good.
The only thing in this post that I agree with is 'crying scenes are good' and 'Kaeng is very pretty'. Everything…
Wow, that was a much better explanation than I was expecting to get. I guess for me there was nothing really striking about the chemistry and Kaeng was so awful at dinner that the situation as irredeemable to me. This was by far the most unpleasant pairing to watch for me except for Mon's - and it doesn't help that they keep putting him in every story. Does he have 10 of those outfits or is he wearing the same one every single day?
Your basis is just because of COVID situation. Well, having a season actor to play the role, it's just exciting…
I meant I blame COVID for my spending so much time watching BL, not that I blame it for affecting production - I think everyone's done their best to adapt to a difficult situation.
Is it the same people who did Quaranthings? If so, then I'm sure it will be good, but they need to work on their trailers because this one made the series look really unappealing.
Why did you all like this? It was virtually unwatchable. The acting is not great (although the understated crying scenes were very good - which makes me think the director is bad rather than the actors), and I wanted to punch Kaeng so badly everytime he was onscreen (if it was supposed to be that way, then I take it back - First is a genius). The emotions made no sense in this - Puth's motivations were inscrutable. One moment he felt one way, and then the next, like the flip of a light switch, he was totally different. I would rate this one of the worst stories in the series. I had to take breaks every minute or tow because it was so excruciating to watch.
There is no chance I would ever consider dating a ridiculous, vicious, issue-riddled person like Kaeng. Ugh, he's so oily.I actively despise him, and Puth isn't much better - as selfish and awful person who I wouln't trust in a relationship under any circumstances.
Seriously, what did you all like? I don't get it. Are you giving Kaeng a pass because he's very pretty? Because that's his only positive characteristic. What is the message of the story? If you stsalk and sexually assault someone enough times they'll love you?
And is Mon going to wear that same f@#$ing outfit every day for the rest of his life?
The only positive thing I can say is that they're trying new things, which I appreciate.
I really couldn't watch more than 30 seconds at a time without taking a break. I feel so bad for the other guy. I don't feel bad for Puth, because he wants his cake and to eat it too and he should have firmly drawn a line.
I give Puth & Kaeng 3 months at best. Probably less.
I tried to watch it, but it's so unpleasant I have to take breaks every couple of minutes and so I gave up. Kaeng deserves to be made to cry for his terrible behavior at dinner. He has no class and I would never give him a chance after that.
Do older people call anything toxic? I think us older people are really, really tired of hearing younger people call anything involving any imperfect human being making a mistake "toxic".
Anyone who isn't making mistakes is probably not doing anything at all - or maybe people are mad at themselves for their mistakes and deflect their anger onto other impefect people. But BL audiences don't seem to be the forgiving types.
Of course the boys were childish in ITSAY. They were children - how else would they be?
I related to ITSAY for my teenage experiences, and I related to IPYTM for my college experiences - and I was a music major so it's particularly poignant.
But I don't think you need to relate to specific circumstance in a series to love it - you have to be able to relate to the human condition. Teh was the most wrong in this ep, but Oh was also not including his partner in his life and decisions, which can make someone feel like they're losing you. We've all had that feeling at some time or other, even if not exactly like these circumstances.
Anyway, I love both series for different reasons. I think maybe there are some segments of the BL audience that are used to and prefer the ritualistic fantasies that characterize mainstream BL, where cute boys are cute to each other and are perfect in the way they treat each other (except at first when they are obligatory enemies - but once they're together. any misteps are unforgivable).
My issue was simply that this story had nothing to say and offered nothing original - just a checklist of worn-out BL tropes.
I would be angry too if someone wrote what you thought I wrote, so don't worry, we're still on the same page about most things. :)
The secondary storyline resolution is also cut, which is also bizarre as it's needed. It's nice to see that Voice broke It - it's cute.
What are they thinking? Brothers had the actual romantic resolution scene cut, which made the last episode incomprehensible.
Is it the same people who did Quaranthings? If so, then I'm sure it will be good, but they need to work on their trailers because this one made the series look really unappealing.
There is no chance I would ever consider dating a ridiculous, vicious, issue-riddled person like Kaeng. Ugh, he's so oily.I actively despise him, and Puth isn't much better - as selfish and awful person who I wouln't trust in a relationship under any circumstances.
Seriously, what did you all like? I don't get it. Are you giving Kaeng a pass because he's very pretty? Because that's his only positive characteristic. What is the message of the story? If you stsalk and sexually assault someone enough times they'll love you?
And is Mon going to wear that same f@#$ing outfit every day for the rest of his life?
The only positive thing I can say is that they're trying new things, which I appreciate.
I give Puth & Kaeng 3 months at best. Probably less.