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I'm a straight-acting from the 80s, and I was terrified of the slightest hint of effeminacy, and lost out on a lot as a result, and probably didn't treat fems well. Because I was that homophobic it really bothers me to see it now and I'm intolerant of that type of intolerance. There is absolutely no room for it in 2020 and it's a socially irresponsible depiction, especially in a conservative society that's already prone to accept the characterization of gays as predators. I feel like we've fought too hard for too long to be taking backwards steps like this.

Looking at the BL ratings, the series with LGBTQ+ sensibility seem to be doing the best by far, so that's encouraging.

Sigh. Fine, I'll try again. :)

I saw that! I liked all three films. I agree, that was really well done.

One of the bigger disappointments lately for sure.

Got it! :)

There is a lot of terrible Filipino BL, but there's an upper tier that's very good - right now Gaya Sa Pelikula is excellent, Boys' Lockdown is really cute, and My Extraordinary is really good, but too dark for a lot of people. The first ep of Oh, Mando! was cute too. In the past there was Hello Stranger and Gameboys, both excellent.

Why is that always everyone's justification? Just because they're like that in the novel doesn't mean they have to be like that onscreen! In a novel you hear their thoughts. On screen we have to SEE what they're feeling, and these two actors are incapable of doing that. Phu is stoic and doesn't show emotion either, but the actor is talented and so we can see what he feels through subtle expressions and body language. Solo is about as interesting as a damp cardboard box, and if Gui doesn't provide any contrast. I can't watch them - I literally fall asleep.

Well, Solo's father is only three years older than he is, which is an impressive achievement. I doubt I would have been capable of procreation when I was 2.

I almost feel like they're deliberately creating the most boring series ever just to see how little effort they can get away with and still cash their paychecks. They stick in only very little snippets of PhuKao just to underscore how bad and dull everything else is and because they hate us.

Then they're applying the lessons learned to TharnType2, which might even be worse.

I don't mind the Khim/Dr storyline solely because Khem is adorable. My fantasy is that Khim, Petch, Solo & Gui will catch Khem's fever and die. Then all the run time can be about Phu & Kao with Khem & Perth as the side couple.

That was kind of mean, I know. Khim, Petch, Solo & Gui don't have to die like that. They could all be in a car that stalls on a train crossing. That way it would be quick.

But seriously, who thought hiring those two actors for Solo & Gui would be a good idea? Are they even acting, or just reading lines? The award for most boring couple in all of human history has to go to them. You could probably also include homo erectus and australopithecus history and it would still be true.

Is this serious? Are we really doing ANOTHER BL about moons and Engineering? Thai BL is starting to feel like a parody we can't escape from.

Yes. But that doesn't mean it can't and shouldn't change. The better Filipino BL doesn't do this, and ITSAY proves Thai BL can follow suit.

I don't think the overwhelmingly female audience has a problem with gay men who have feminine characteristics - I think it's the straight men predominant in the production. I think Filipino BL has surpassed Thai BL largely because they have LGBTQ+ involvement all throughout the creative process.

That's why I said j/k.

Yes, I'm sure you're right. But a crew is not going to be very motivated when it's clear they're working on a cash grab with an uninspiring story and director. Something can be low budget and have a lot of passion in it. There is none that I can see here - it's all flat and it doesn't feel like anyone cares.

"Mediocre" is very generous. I'd say "so bad it's hard to believe it's not intentional because you would have to work harder to make it that bad than to make it good."

Yes, I still think it's boring. Intensely. The author is telling, not showing, which is bad enough in writing, but fatal in a visual medium. The directing & editing is bad. Notice that their love scene in the bathroom is interrupted by an unnecessary shot of Techno puking into a bucket. Techno, who was a wonderful character, only exists to issue unfunny lines and then be hit in the head by Type. The dialog in all the scenes is terrible. In the bathroom:

"Do you know why I agree to let you work so hard? Because I know you love to do it. I love you when you love what you do."

"And do you know what I love most?"

"Me."

No wonder Techno puked into the bucket.

Nothing you mention is interesting. We already know Techno & Champ are Type's friends and that they support him.

The fight was about an important subject, but they didn't meaningfully discuss it like adults who have been together for 7 years. Tharn was absolutely NOT unreasonable - he only said he didn't want to talk about it right then and wanted them to cool down before discussing it, which is being the adult in the room, not snatching the comforter, stomping off like a child and calling his bf a "fucking asshole."

Type was forcing Tharn to have a discussion he didn't want to have, and then the moment Tharn expresses how he feels, Type says "You fucker!" then makes an irrelevant point about them both being men. It was long and badly written, and just uninteresting and boring. It's all telling, not showing. Compare that to ITSAY, where 100 times more is conveyed with no words spoken at all. That is the difference between art and a cash grab.

I thought when he said he'd gamble on Ben he meant that he wanted to be with him and plans to break up with Yana, but I guess we'll see. I just don't think he should have said that until he's sure what he's doing or has himself sorted out.

Well, I read the whole thing, so no apology neeed. It's hard to believe a director would interupt a love scene with somoene puking into a bucket. Or maybe the editor did that to let Techno communicate for him what he thought of the dialog in the bathroom, which was so bad I thought I might need a bucket too.

Glad to be of some use!

I would give it a 6 at best, being generous. It was feeling like a 10 up to ep 6, then it dived off a cliff. One of the greater disappointments in BL. I must have rated it early on - thanks for pointing it out, I changed it. Also, the scale has been raised a lot lately now that there are really excellent BLs out.