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If he were into her, he would absolutely have noticed her bra and that it was covered with lavender hibiscus. Even if he wasn't into her, if he was straight, he would still have totally noticed her bra.

The short answer is that he gave everything to Oh and has nothing left, and it was all a waste because Oh didn't want it and tossed it away - and he must know that he couldn't give Oh the one thing that he wanted, which was his love.

No offense intended, but that is absolutely not it. He gave everything and has nothing left, and it was all a waste, because Oh is tossing it aside. All Oh wants is his love, and that's the only thing he can't give him.

Your optimism is so cute. Although I hope you're right.

The amount of commercials and where they're placed is beyond irritating. For me, it was Axe body spray over and over again right in the middle of every crucial scene, although to be fair, in this series every scene is crucial.

No. I meant that it would be nearly impossible for him to come out with that much expectation piled on him, and I'm not sure I would have if I were in his shoes. At least he has his brother.

Agree. And I would have committed suicide a long time ago if I had Teh's mother.

Fortunately the episodes are double-length so it's really more like 10 eps. I agree with everything you said.

One thing this series has that no other Thai BL has had is an LGBTQ+ sensibility - this has been so badly lacking up to this point. This, like the better Filipino BLs are raising the genre to a new level - hiring brilliant script writers who understand a visual medium and take full advantage of it, hiring skilled and talented actors, attention to detail, passion, and technical perfection.

Billkin and PP are not gorgeous with the usual chisled athetic bodies - and does anyone miss that? I sure don't. Because these are real, fully-realized, 3D characters. Teh is more attractive to me than just about any other BL character I can think of.

I hope the industry takes inspiration from this so we don't have to slog through 1,001 variations on SOTUS anymore.

I got bored just watching the credits. Then I got interested because of the shower scene. Then I got bored again with this formulaic dreck. The writing is terrible - I couldn't get past the first 5 minutes. I was hoping for something light and fun after ITSAY Ep 4, but this is way more depressing.

Thank God my mother is not like Teh's. Her reaction to my coming out was terrible, but in only took her a few months to completely accept it. Teh's mother is absolutely suffocating. She's well-meaning, but Jeezus. Is there any doubt why Teh is the way he is? Can you imagine the weight of expectation on him?

I think 3, 4, 5 & 6 were also the same episode as well. I think there's only one episode and they keep playing it over and over.

Do you ever feel like whoever edited this used entire takes and didn't cut out all the footage after the action of the scene was over? Every scene seems to end with people just staring at each other without saying anything.

The first few episodes I was excited by this series, but it's gone nowhere. If I'd skipped the last four episodes all I'd have missed is the reconciliation with Tan's father, who is the worst offender for standing around staring.

The ominous music that plays whever It is in a seen never gets old, though.

How did you get that invested in Bas and Oh so quickly? I'll feel bad for Bas because he's so nice, but the show is doing something wrong if you haven't invested in the main pair...

Of couse the context matters, but the acting ability and chemistry of the pair matters as much. Also, I didn't read the scene like you did. Men feel each others' chests too - I thought he was just super-turned on, had his hands all over the place, then "reached completion" and then gay-panicked out of there. He made sure to angle his body when he got up and left so that his nether regions were not exposed. He's never fooled around with a girl or felt a chest, so I don't see why this would be an issue - and if it was, then that's the first bit of writing that I find disappointing because it's unauthentic. I did date girls and feel their chests, and I was very happy for there not to be breasts on the first guy I fooled around with, no matter how terrifying the situation was.

I totally agree. This scene was the hottest thing I've ever seen in a BL, but the TharnType shower scene looked like everyone was just phoning it in. It didn't help that it was an almost laughable ripoff of the car scene in Titanic. Oh is an evil little shit - the last half of this ep was one long and very calulated seduction. That boy new exactly what he was doing and what buttons to push.

Are you talking about Gaya Sa Pelikula? The production is extremely high-quality - not amateur in the slightest, and I wonder if you're picking up the layers. It is not at all a conventional narrative. First of all, much of it is told in movie quotes, and a huge amount of the meaning is portrayed in visual metaphors. Even the first line "Do yo u ever feel you're not the protagonist in your own story?" is told to a black screen so that you can see your own reflection - and reflect on that comment as it relates to you. Or the multiple and shifting layers of meaning to the childhood photo in the closet, or when Karl let's go in Ep 6.

ITSAY is by far the best executed Thai BL ever, and unless they destroy it in the last two episodes is in my top 3 BLs of all time, but it's a fairly conventional BL story - enemies to lovers, GF in the way, etc. But way, way better written and acted. But I have to say, it's the only Thai BL of this quality level (Dark Blue Kiss had very high production values, but terrible writing), and I'm hoping it's the first of many. There's no doubt the Thai production industry can put out first-rate material - but they have to abandon the tired formula and overly-chaste and overly-straight-acting storylines written by fanfic authors, and stop hiring amateur actors.

The physical scene in the last ep of ITSAY was fairly mild in terms of sexual content but was one of the hottest things I've ever seen in a BL, and it wasn't fan-service or unnecessary - it was perfectly woven into the story and totally authentic. The characters are fully realized and complex., not the typical 2D BL cartoons, like "the boy who's lost his smile".

It seems to me that ITSAY must have more LGBTQ+ people involved in the production because it has a gay perspective we don't often get in Thai BL, but is one of the strengths of Filipino BL. I really hope ITSAY does really well and people start emulating it rather than giving us 100 variations on SOTUS.

Way at the beginning - but I don't think it was well-enough set up to use as a major plot device. If they go that route they'll need to put it in the "previously" scenes at the beginning of the episode.

It's things like this that separate this show from so many BLs, which are simplistic stories (emotionally & thematically - many are unnecessarily convoluted in plot) that are too rooted in bad novels and don't exploit the visual medium. In fact, some of them require you to have read the novels for anything to make sense because they don't show you anything, they only tell.

They were calling Teh toxic ?!?!? A lot of people really like that word and I don't think they know what it means. And while I appreciate that they support LGBTQ+ equality, I'm repulsed by the intolerance for how incredibly difficult it is to come to terms with your sexuality, and how the intense fear you feel can push you into decisions that you regret.

Too much of the BL audience wants nothing more than cute boys being cute to each other - that's fetishization of gay men, and it's not much better than than the exploitation of women in the mainstream "straight" media. I don't think they see it that way because they're too busy being sanctimonious.

Sorry for the rant - I'm starting to get annoyed with the simplistic black & white take on the world - and people - that so many people have the luxury of taking. I wonder how many of them are perfect little angels that have never done anything selfish or out of fear of what other people think. Or even misguided love.

I got the hibiscus thing - it made me laugh because of Teh's exchange with his girlfriend.