You went from zero to minus hundred. You're calling Ten a 'psycho' for punching Changma while not realising that…
You mention going from zero to minus hunded. That Chang Ma was in the wrong does not mean that anything that is done to him is justified. What Chang Ma did was inappropriate, and what Ten did was felony assault and battery that should earn him prison time. How are you interpreting punching someone in the face as "not violence"? Are you saying that if someone does something inappropriate that actually punching them in the face isn't violence? What do you think violence is?
Ten also doesn't seem to have enough respect for Prem and an adult to let him handle his own social interactions, which is controlling, and further, he struck Chang Ma out of jealousy, which he admitted - Prem told him he should have hit Chang Ma, and Ten replied that he hadn't heard what Chang Ma told him. That's a terrible and selfish motivation, so yes, I am judging him by his intent.
As for Dynamite, again, there's no nuance in your judgment of him. If showing interest in someone is stalking, then every romantic relationship there's ever been is stalking, because they can't start unless someone initiates it. Running into someone at school on purpose a few times is not stalking. Following him home and otherwise terrorizing him is stalking.
That was not the most exciting episode, but that's the first time I've ever seen a nuanced depiction of a boss in.a Thai BL. I liked that the boss had rational and reasonable concerns about worplace romance - it wasn't because he'd been personally burned in the past, and his views were not absolute but dependent on circumstances.
It was also quite moving that he wouldn't allow an employee to be humiliated or mistreated.
Having a special contract that employees had to sign not to date a specific person is a bit silly, but it didn't overshadow the positives of this situation.
The relationship between Karan and Achi is exceptionally well-written. Karan is the clear dominant figure in the relationship, but Achi isn't weak nor does he need protection, and is uncomfortable when Karan is patronizing. Karan is patronizing, but not in an attempt to assert power over Achi, it's just out of nervousness and insecurity which is at a "normal human level" and not OTT.
In contrast to Cooking Crush, where the uke is useless without a seme who has almost no agency, here there's an equal relationship where Achi's support for Karan is as - or perhaps more - significant than the other way around.
The secondary couple was a bit repetitive and annoying this episode, with less good writing. The problem is that Jinta misundertands Min's feelings, thinking he's only interested in the cat. That would make perfect sense... if he didn't have mind reading powers and wasn't shown to be happy to use them. If you can clear up your misunderstanding by touching the other person, then forcing it on the audience is lazy and poor writing. Fortunately Mark is cute as f@#$ and Junior's expressions are priceless, but in this episode I was acutally in a hurry to get through them and back to Karan & Achi, which is not the usual case.
Also Jinta was looking for the flower while I was eating, so that was not appreciated.
Also, can we please f@#$ing stop destroying beautiful romantic moments with completely ridiculous product placements? They were so invasive this episode that I was feeling low-toi-mid level rage.
Do you mean when he grabbed his hair to style it, or when he grabbed his nose?
But seriously, yes, he said stop, but did nothing to stop him and obviously liked it because he got off - and as we heard - "very fast". There are some peculiarities of male anatomy that suggest a lot of consent.
I know we teach kids "no means no", but it really doesn't always. The reason humans have such huge and sophisticated brains is because we're social animals and need to process huge amounts of information to communicate with each other - words are just a tiny fraction of that info. Even if you can't hear my voice right now, I think you can tell the difference between these two examples:
1. "NO."
2. "No, stop it, OMG, what are you doing? You're being such a naughty boy, stop it."
Semes kiss ukes without consent all the time and the uke puts up a show of resistance, and it's fine with everyone because we know he really wants it. If these two were strangers or one had a position of power over the other, then it would have been unacceptable. But as it was, Hirokuni was suprised, not unwilling, and he even complains later that Fukaya hasn't done it again.
I'm not saying he wasn't pushing it, because that was too aggressive, but I think it stops short of lack of consent.
I've been loving this series, but that was awful. First of all, I'm appalled at everyone thinking it was great Ten punched chef Chang Ma - Prem should instantly have dumped him for that. Violence is never a way to settle anything. That was a loss of self-control and reduced him from a man to a boy, and people that resort to violence once will do it again. What if he and Prem have a fight?
I can't even watch the rest of this because I don't want Prem with a psycho. Well, I will prbably skip their scenes and watch all the Fire & Dynamite, because that's a healthy couple. Not only are they equals instead of a caveman and a 12-year old girl who can't do anything without a man to protect her. That's the other thing - this ridiculous lack of ageny in ukes has got to go. Dynamte can take care of himself - Fire was there to support him emotionally and that was quite lovely. All Ten did is throw in an awkward commecial for a refreshing tea drink and punch someone in the face, which, incidentally, could have resulted in serious injury or death if Chef Chang Ma had hit his head the wrong way when falling.
Sometimes violence is necessary to prevent the injury or death of someone under attack - not to stop a hug.
chef chang ma deserved that punch ngl. prem and ten are so cute together
No, he didnt. You never resolve anything by violence, and I would dump Ten immediately if he did that. That's a lack of self-control and a propensity that can't be tolerated. What if Ten gets that mad at Prem?
Not only that, but he could have gotten Prem's entire team disqualiifed., not to mention getting himself sent to prison.
What's that lit up control button on the back of his neck, then?
True. If he's real, then I think he would have to know it, because if he's doesn't know he's real someone has done something terrible and I don't think there are enough episodes to cover all that.
I would probably say you're 1005 right if this were 12 episodes, but at only 6, I'm not sure it can get complicated. I'd put it at 50/50 at this point - maybe we'll find out more next episode.
That really does work to help sleep. Once I got sick and it did something to my sleep timer and I went 4 days…
It was bad - I was much younger and more resiliant then so I was OK. Now it would be very serious. If I'm working, I can generally get to sleep OK, but if not, it's harder, and I also understand that feeling of not wanting to because when you wake up it's tomorrow. For me day 4 left me in a daze and I couldn't really do anything that required thought and almost nothing physical. I didn't so much hallucinate as having my thoughts wander all over the place out of control.
I still don't have the best slleep hygene because I have a job that requires travel, but I'm getting older and I really need to work on that. But I do keep Lunesta on hand in case I need it.
This is cute. But also short. But cute. To anyone commenting on lack of consent... this is freaking yaoi-based,…
That really does work to help sleep.
Once I got sick and it did something to my sleep timer and I went 4 days without it. The hospital treated it as a very serious ailment and that's how I met my boyfriend, Lunesta.
Can someone explain to me what the issue is with a human and a robot? Either the robot isn't sentient, in which case it's an expensive dildo, or he is sentient, in which case two physically compatible living beings fall in love. Both are morally fine, although the first one would be kind of pointless as a non-porn story.
The only thing that would be awful is if he's sentient but has no ability to consent or deny consent, in which case he's a sex slave, but this is a BL, not an episode of Black Mirror, so the chances of that being the case are 0%.
Sorry, that probably seemed like a random response - it was to someone else, but due to human error I placed it in the wrong place. I guess that proves I'm not a robot. OR DOES IT. It could be a trick.
I only have time for Ep 1 at the moment, but OMG. I love this. When I thought it was going to go for the annoying wiping the food off the mouth cliche it went and surprised me.
Ever 9 is so unbelievably cute I can't stand it. The way it looks at Yi Ping would make me call in siick for a week, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. Anyway, I love this so far.
Hell Toki was 3rd year so he was already legal (17-18) to begin with, but like you said they waited until he wasn't…
Even if he was a minor, who cares? The purpose of age of conxent laws was tp prevent people from marrying off their daughters at disturbingly young ages, not to prevent people from forming consensual loving relationships. I do believe in age of consent laws, but there needs to be some sort of deliniation for pederasty, which is sex with pre-oubescents, which I think 99% of people can agree is unacceptable.
I actually think Japan has it right - the age of consent is 15, and provided there is no coersion or a power imbalance (like teacher-student), then it's not problemmatic. I think almost everyone would still not touch it because proving there's no coersion might be hard in the face of, say, parental disapproval or the minor retroactively withdrawing consent, but every sitution has to be looked at individually - and can anyone say there was anything unhealthy about Sahara and Toki's relationship? They waited for it to be appropriate!
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Ten also doesn't seem to have enough respect for Prem and an adult to let him handle his own social interactions, which is controlling, and further, he struck Chang Ma out of jealousy, which he admitted - Prem told him he should have hit Chang Ma, and Ten replied that he hadn't heard what Chang Ma told him. That's a terrible and selfish motivation, so yes, I am judging him by his intent.
As for Dynamite, again, there's no nuance in your judgment of him. If showing interest in someone is stalking, then every romantic relationship there's ever been is stalking, because they can't start unless someone initiates it. Running into someone at school on purpose a few times is not stalking. Following him home and otherwise terrorizing him is stalking.
It was also quite moving that he wouldn't allow an employee to be humiliated or mistreated.
Having a special contract that employees had to sign not to date a specific person is a bit silly, but it didn't overshadow the positives of this situation.
The relationship between Karan and Achi is exceptionally well-written. Karan is the clear dominant figure in the relationship, but Achi isn't weak nor does he need protection, and is uncomfortable when Karan is patronizing. Karan is patronizing, but not in an attempt to assert power over Achi, it's just out of nervousness and insecurity which is at a "normal human level" and not OTT.
In contrast to Cooking Crush, where the uke is useless without a seme who has almost no agency, here there's an equal relationship where Achi's support for Karan is as - or perhaps more - significant than the other way around.
The secondary couple was a bit repetitive and annoying this episode, with less good writing. The problem is that Jinta misundertands Min's feelings, thinking he's only interested in the cat. That would make perfect sense... if he didn't have mind reading powers and wasn't shown to be happy to use them. If you can clear up your misunderstanding by touching the other person, then forcing it on the audience is lazy and poor writing. Fortunately Mark is cute as f@#$ and Junior's expressions are priceless, but in this episode I was acutally in a hurry to get through them and back to Karan & Achi, which is not the usual case.
Also Jinta was looking for the flower while I was eating, so that was not appreciated.
Also, can we please f@#$ing stop destroying beautiful romantic moments with completely ridiculous product placements? They were so invasive this episode that I was feeling low-toi-mid level rage.
I know we teach kids "no means no", but it really doesn't always. The reason humans have such huge and sophisticated brains is because we're social animals and need to process huge amounts of information to communicate with each other - words are just a tiny fraction of that info. Even if you can't hear my voice right now, I think you can tell the difference between these two examples:
1. "NO."
2. "No, stop it, OMG, what are you doing? You're being such a naughty boy, stop it."
Semes kiss ukes without consent all the time and the uke puts up a show of resistance, and it's fine with everyone because we know he really wants it. If these two were strangers or one had a position of power over the other, then it would have been unacceptable. But as it was, Hirokuni was suprised, not unwilling, and he even complains later that Fukaya hasn't done it again.
I'm not saying he wasn't pushing it, because that was too aggressive, but I think it stops short of lack of consent.
I can't even watch the rest of this because I don't want Prem with a psycho. Well, I will prbably skip their scenes and watch all the Fire & Dynamite, because that's a healthy couple. Not only are they equals instead of a caveman and a 12-year old girl who can't do anything without a man to protect her. That's the other thing - this ridiculous lack of ageny in ukes has got to go. Dynamte can take care of himself - Fire was there to support him emotionally and that was quite lovely. All Ten did is throw in an awkward commecial for a refreshing tea drink and punch someone in the face, which, incidentally, could have resulted in serious injury or death if Chef Chang Ma had hit his head the wrong way when falling.
Sometimes violence is necessary to prevent the injury or death of someone under attack - not to stop a hug.
Not only that, but he could have gotten Prem's entire team disqualiifed., not to mention getting himself sent to prison.
I would probably say you're 1005 right if this were 12 episodes, but at only 6, I'm not sure it can get complicated. I'd put it at 50/50 at this point - maybe we'll find out more next episode.
I still don't have the best slleep hygene because I have a job that requires travel, but I'm getting older and I really need to work on that. But I do keep Lunesta on hand in case I need it.
Once I got sick and it did something to my sleep timer and I went 4 days without it. The hospital treated it as a very serious ailment and that's how I met my boyfriend, Lunesta.
The only thing that would be awful is if he's sentient but has no ability to consent or deny consent, in which case he's a sex slave, but this is a BL, not an episode of Black Mirror, so the chances of that being the case are 0%.
Ever 9 is so unbelievably cute I can't stand it. The way it looks at Yi Ping would make me call in siick for a week, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. Anyway, I love this so far.
I actually think Japan has it right - the age of consent is 15, and provided there is no coersion or a power imbalance (like teacher-student), then it's not problemmatic. I think almost everyone would still not touch it because proving there's no coersion might be hard in the face of, say, parental disapproval or the minor retroactively withdrawing consent, but every sitution has to be looked at individually - and can anyone say there was anything unhealthy about Sahara and Toki's relationship? They waited for it to be appropriate!