jpny01

Oh dear. This is definitely not aimed at me. It's squarely aimed at people who enjoy cheap attempts to be a Japanese show and cliche-stuffed and OTT storytelling with tons of exposition and internal monologue. At least there wasn't a lot of texting. But I couldn't get through it.

The problem with doing "humor" is that if you make it an end in itself rather than situational to the story, you don't draw people in, you just leave them asking themselves why they're watching this.

I was looking forward to this because I liked the cast and was looking foward to seeing
Leo Peerapun again.

I think binge-watching is the only way to do this series- it's too convoluted and with too many time jumps to watch weekly - I kept having to go back and review the previous episode. I would do that for every series, but I enjoy this discussion forum too much.

Well, I got through Ep 3. I still love the cast, but it's hard to get through all the texting and video games. They could at least show us the game instead of people sitting on a couch fiddling with their phones. I think I might have cake PTSD - a weird anxiety because I know I'm about to see a grown man not know he has a gob of frosting on his lip and will have another grown man reach over and wipe it off, which has happened exactly zero times in the entire history of humankind. At least not without someone getting punched. That was a slight exaggeration for the sake of drama.

I suppose that's better than not knowing you have a big gob of blood on your neck. I guess he didn't think to look in a mirror to freshen up after getting stabbed and beating someone half to death. I usually try to be more careful in such situations.

Meen is very good at being cute and also scary. But I'm already finding myself more interested in the secondary couple.

I'm not sure what the diffence is between Wahl being beaten and being bludgeoned. I supposed bludgeoning would likely be part of a very severe beating, but my point doesn't seem to far off yours.

I like the ideas and the acting, but the writing so far is not good. How many times are we going to recycle the drunken uke? How much texting do we need to watch? The thing is, the actors are doing a great job and really letting us see distinct characters, so the exposition isn't necessary. I hope this doesn't degenerate into plotless wandering around doing normal day to day things in between binge drinking like Ai Long Nhai.

However, if it does, I'm still going to watch it on account of Meen's hotness and Guy's cuteness.

Normally I would give a guy a pass for having arms like that and never wearing sleeves, but it's not working here. I still want to see him bludgeoned.

This is a guilty pleasure, and I do mean guilty, because it's bad. The actors are doing a good job, and the writer has some decent ideas, but the execution of the writing is terrible. First of all, she's stepped into the deadly texting trap. I know people message each other all the time in real life, but it's not exactly riveting to watch. Second, the intro of all the gamers was pure exposition. Show us, please, don't tell us. We didn't need to be told - the actors were perfectly good at communicating their characters. It's more fun and more engaging to let us figure them out for ourselves. Also, they've officially used up their quota of drunkenness. ENOUGH.

Small point, because it's universal, but taking a tall handsome guy with an athleltic body and putting glasses on him and pretending he's not hot is a 1950's move. Like how nobody seems to see the similarity between Clark Kent and Superman.

Anyway, it doesn't matter how bad this is, Meen is so supernaturally attractive and Guy is so cute that this could be about watching paint dry and I would still be glued to it. Meen is well suited to this type of character - despite being boyish, he's way more covincing as a gangster than Yoon in Unforgotten Night. I'm waiting for him to whip out a stoned tiger, but you can't have everything.

Is nobody going to mention Thiu's driver? Where do they find all these guys?

BTW, is there some monthly conference where it's decided to put some feature in all the BLs? What's with all the strawberry cake?

Not really. We need a stoned tiger and a bodyguard orgy for it to really feel like Unfortgotten Night. :)

Ah hah! Thank you - so he was making fun of Shun Yu for using a melodramatic movie line.

The range seems to move steadily upwards with time - if you call anyone 40 middle-aged today, they'll slap you. 100 years ago probably not. Partly that's because your perception of your age never catches up with your actual age. At my last job I had a large staff of 20-somethings, and it was generally a mild shock to look in a mirror after spending all day with them.

With continuously improving health care and life-spans, I guess it makes sense for the definition to creep upwards. 100 years ago, 30 would certainly not be "young", and a man like Koki would be an outcast weirdo for not being married with children by now.

You seem to have anger issues - your response to everything you disagree is a little rude. I don't know if it's agism or not - I said the point was warranted, i.e. it's possible to discuss it. Female actors are subject to a greater degree of ageism than male actors, and dramas aimed at an audience like that of BL are especially so for both sexes. For example, in Oxygen, the main character's father was played by an actor 3 years older with grey streaks painted on his head - it was stupid and laughable, and I think the reason was that he had a much younger lover and they wanted it to look less "creepy". That's ageist, And you don't see many complaints about huge power differentials between partners, but you will get a lot of people saying "ick" if there's a large age difference - "large" being generous, because if it's more than 5 years or so you'll see comments. That's also ageist.

You seem to think that "that's what people want" is not connected to bias. It most certainly is. White supremacists just want everyone to be white, so it's OK, I guess. Obviously not, but why is it different if a creator just wants all female characters to be young with big boobs?

In any story where there's something supernatural, it's important that there be rules. For example, if one of the pair is a vampire and you establish sunlight burns him, you can't have him go out in sunlight and not be burned because it's convenient to the story.

Also, his character has to have normal human emotional reactions and responses or he's not really a character so much as a plot device. So while we can accept the angel, it's not the same as accepting someone having a mother that looks like - at best - his older sister.

You're really making a lot of assumptions that aren't supported by what I said - I didn't say being a single mom is disgusting, I said it would make sense in this situation - given his apparent lack of any supervision growing up.

FInally, I would point out that this isn't a manga, it's live action. Things that work in manga don't necessarily work in live action and so you have to adapt it. Like that trope about how the boy opens his eyes wide in shock when kissed - in manga it's an effective way of showing he's surprised, and it's not tied to a specific length of time - but in live action, when someone stands there for 10 seconds with his eyes wide open while someone is kissing him it's weird and creepy, and not at all a normal human reaction.

That totally failed to hook me. If there's anything more boring than watching people text each other, it's watching characters I don't know and don't care about playing sports in slow motion.

BTW, what did Boss Gu mean with this bit of dialog?

"In 1995, Cinderella with the Journey to The West ending."

That was Gaga - I tried Viki and it didn't help much:

"1995, Journey to the West: The Fairy Shoe. Zhizhunbao's line."

I know that Journey to the West is a classic Chinese novel, but what does that have to do with Cindarella? I checked, and there's no adaptation of the novel from 1995.

Um. So that Boss Gu guy. Sure, just drop that on us suddenly without warning. I burst into flame and now I'll never get that burnt smell out of the curtains.

I see that he gets his own series. It can be as horribly written as this one and I won't care at all.

Speaking of which, is there any plot device in BL that does NOT revolve around a totally implausible and frustrating misunderstanding? It could have been written to work, if the writer had any ability whatsoever, but because the boss has rushed to personally rescue him from a kidnapper, among other things that are simply impossible for even a small child to not see clearly... Stupid and lazy.

Also, this was a comedy - the last few episodes have been bleak and awful, and downright unpleaseant to watch. Except for the Boss Gu scene.

They dragged it out wayyyy way too long, and this was a fun comedy, which has now become a dreary and terribly written drama.

However, they put in that Boss Gu guy for no apparent reason but still, all is forgiven.

You can safely watch the last five minutes. Actually start where he's at the restaurant talking to the hottest man I've ever seen.

I think I died a little. Good God.

It's definitely weird, but not in a bad way - it's actually really refreshing to see something different for once.

But fiction is also about suspension of disbelief. Even with. a 14-year difference, they look quite a bit closer in age than that, and it took me out of the story. It didn't ruin it for me or anything, but it did seem like their desire for her to be sexy was more important than being realistic - so I don't think the point about ageism was unwarranted.