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The acting in this is so good. I just wish the story was more interesting - it seems to have stalled. I hope at least that we've seen the last of the evil girlfriend.

I had really liked this series, but I completely lost interest after this episode. The writing is lazy and terrible, everything is overly melodramatic, the acting was not good, the editing cut up the story so badly that it was difficult to engage with any of it with flashbacks from all over the place, including a few played over and over, and it's full of silly cliches.

Why would you run across Tokyo wearing a suit when you can just take a cab? Are you trying to tell me Ren can't defend himself against a skinny old drunk man? That is the worst type of delicate uke nonsense. And I don't speak French either, but getting around France by train is easy. For that matter, I don't speak Japanese and getting around Tokyo by train is easy too. And it's even easier to get around in taxis.

Trauma is a thing, but come on. These people are in the mid to late 20s and they can't have a conversation?

And we had to regress to the "I'm not gay, I only like X". If the only person you've ever liked and will ever like is a man, and you're a man, then you're gay. What is this weird homophobia?

Gay = weak = feminine. Great. Back to the 1950s we go.

OK - you meant the actual Mercutio. I thought that was a band or a Manga or something.

Petty Mercutio?

Let's just say it mostly features me on my knees.

Totally agree - when someone knows how to write, you don't need 14 long meandering episodes - their backstory has been artfully revealed in just a couple of short conversations.

Thai productions have big budgets, lots of technical talent, and sometimes even good actors - but the writing for all of them sucks. Every once in a while there's a gem - I suspect by accident - but for the most part it's bad adaptations of mediocre (at best) novels.

I'm a little irritated that after all that nobody took their shirt off, but otherwise, I love this. Choi Jun is so f@#ing hot I want to @#$% his &^&* like a motherf@#ing s#$% from ^%&&.

Most guys in good shape look best head on so you can take in the broad shoulders and pecs - but nothing is as perfect as Choi Jun from the side, which shows off his perfect proportions and that tight bubble a$$. How is anyone that perfect?

Well, maybe it's more like they scream "I'm going to f@#k you" every time he's with Lee Jun, but I'm down for it either way.

100% agree. If this were episode 4, sure, Ok, maybe it's a little repetetive and irritating - but this is episode 16 of this story - where has it gone? Minato's reactions were funny - the first 100 times. The subsequent 30,000 times are less amusing (and yes, that was an exaggeration for the sake of drama).

The writing is predictable, lazy, incoherent, and mindlessly repetitive. We get it. Shin thinks Minato is cute. Does he feel anything else? Apparently not, except perhaps a feeling of entitlement to be told 'I love you'. It's so shallow and uninteresting, not to mention frustrating.

Ok, let me ask you this: what does Shin see in Minato? What does he like about him? What's the nature of their connection? Based on what we've seen, Shin's attraction to him is purely physical - he thinks he's cute, which he says over and over and over again. What does Minato see in Shin? What does he like about him? What's his draw? It hasn't really been covered because everything is subordinated to Minato's clownish reactions to everything, which are incredibly static, repetitive, and entirely predictable, and thus boring. We know Minato is resisting his feelings for Shin, but WHY? What is the internal conflict causing this? I don't know, because the writing is so shallow we've never been given any insight into this. It's just the one-track schtick of the show and the writers clearly have no idea how to move on from it.

Here's the REAL generational difference - young people think criticism is mean, whereas older people think it's an opportunty to improve, because we're not delicate. As for showing affection, people have stopped having sex - the rate has declined so much that it's like we've descended into a new Victorian age. The younger generation is not more at peace with their affections - they've lost the ability to express them at all.

The situation for LGBT people is different, of course, because before you could be beaten to death or rejected and cast out by your family and had no rights or protections, so of course that affected your ability and willingness to express affection - but that's an external barrier, not an internal one. I grew up in a very homophobic society, but I've never had trouble expressing my affections when in a safe place, which is almost everywhere now.

Younger people think everything is "toxic", pursuing someone romantically is transgressive and "rapey", or gaslighting, or coercive. I'm sure you've seen the constant assertions that if you have sex after drinking it's rape - which seems to be missing the point of drinking in the first place, which is to relax and lower your inhibitions so you're not so afraid to do things that you want to do, like build up the nerve to approach someone. There's no distinction between inebriated and unresponsive, which are totally difrerent, physically, morally, and legally.

Yes, but this isn't about jaded married couples, it's a romance. Who would watch a series about a married couple that aren't interested in each other anymore and sleep in separate rooms? A romance needs, well, romance!

And what you're saying makes some sense in the context of a single-season series - but this isn't. It's not really episode 4, it's episode 16, and they've made no progress in their relationship. We've all seen a ton of Japanese series including comedies - for example A Man Who Defies the World of BL, which has 3 seasons, is much more broad and slapstick in its humor - and about 6,000 times more happens in it than this show. Minato's reactions are funny - the first few times. After several hundred of exactly the same reaction to exactly the same type of thing, it gets frustrating.

That's not at all why we don't like the show. The communication issue is actually an excellent basis for both drama and comedy. The problem is that it goes nowhere. Regardless of the nature of Japanese society and comedy, you still have to have plot progression and character development. Their relationship has actually regressed considerably behind where it was at the end of the 1st season - and while PDAs are not as free in Japanese society as in the West, the Japanese are not at all reticent about physical love in private, and lack the religious inhibitions that plague sexuality in the West. We're taught you'll go to hell just for masturbating, let alone doing anything with another person.

I was cringing and internally chanting "Eww eww eww eww eww" in anticipation of his licking his finger. I suppose I should appreciate minor miracles when they happen.

Your idea would have been so much better - both more realistic and much better drama - it could have even been made comical, like his internal reaction to what he was doing. A lost opportunity and lazy cliched writing.

There's something off about this series that I can't quite place. I guess it's that the premise doesn't make any sense. If Lom likes Nuea, he should just tell him it's a sham marriage and let him decide if he wants to be with Lom. Because he hasn't done this, he's messing with Nuea in a way that's over the line because it affects his employment.

I get that Lom kissed him on impulse, so that doesn't really bother me - but all this unncessary deception makes it hard to ever accept Lom. A little teasing at the beginning was OK, but this is too much now. It's clearly affecting Nuea's mental state and even his physical health.

And it just doesn't make any sense. Also, that weird locker room scene was bizarre. I liked seeing Sunny's ridiculous body (holy cow, he's really been hitting the gym), but the bouncing sideways off Lom to smash into the lockers was too fake and threw me out of the story.

And will any Thai BL writer EVER pass up the opportunity to have someone not notice a huge amount of food on the side of their mouth and have someone wipe it, which is creepy, instead of just saying "you have something on your mouth", Lom is always wearing pocket hankerchiefs - it would be more interesting and even romantic if he pulled it out and handed it to Nuea.

I think the actors are doing a good job and the photography is quite good, but the overall direction is off, with some scenes going in circles too long and the comic timing is not good - maybe it's an editing issue, but the humor falls flat - it needs to be snappier and not so lethargic.

That kiss was really uncomfortable to watch - it was kind of awful. If Nuea has a problem with it, he should push Lom away. If he's into it, then he shouldn't do that open-eyes fish kiss thing that I loathe above all other things in BL.

There is no way I'm watching a 40-minute commercial for McDonald's. That was totally ridiculous.

Ep 6 was a bit of a letdown - there were some weaknesses we haven't seen in previous episodes, and that was perhaps underscored by this being largely a filler episode loaded with flashbacks and having almost no plot progression or character development.

It was also a bit disjointed, with character motives not being clear. Hopefully it will get back on track next episode, because this is one of my favorite series airing right now.

I do respect your opnion, but I don't think you should make assumptions about how I was raised (which, for the record, was by a Muslim and I'm gay). I do agree with you that it isn't something to encourage, but it isn't in this series - it is portrayed as something that shouldn't have happened and had long-term consequences.

If nobody does anything they shouldn't in a drama, it wouldn't really be drama, would it? My point is there's a difference between portraying sexuality between minors and showing it between adults and minors - that's wildly inappropriate for a genre that is essentially fantasy and aimed at younger audiences and audiences that are not really expecting or wanting series about deep trauma and very dark themes.

Self awareness is not a strength everyone has, clearly. I've never understood the attitude that you have to like everything about something and if you have any criticism you must hate it and you should just go away and die. I said I like it, which I clearly did if I watched all 12 episodes with very little pause. I just think there's a bit of a lost opportunity to have made it amazing instead of 'just" good.

If English is not your native language, then I apologize. But capitalizing YOUR opinon, and even pointing it out as an opinion, suggests my viewpoint is irrelevant and yours is the truth. Second, you mentioned my desire for "violence & rough sex", which is not even close to what I said, so you're trying again to discredit what I wrote by connecting it to an argument I didn't make. Finally, you presented, not once, but twice, the "if you don't like it then watch something else" argument, which is really not suitable for an adult conversation, and since I said several times that I like the series, it's difficult to interpret that as coming from a non-angry place. Your reaction to reasonable criticism is so strong that there seems to be a sensitivity here, as if you were investing a lot into what is, in the end, a piece of light entertainment. You're tone is also passive-aggressive and condescending, and you even ended your post above with "I know you are but what am I", which is very primary school.

The point of a discussion forum is to, well, discuss. If everyone has the same opinion, then there's nothing to talk about,

Finally, my post was not a response to anyone else's, it was laying out how I felt upon watching, so isn't it you who is quarreling with someone who you don't agree with?