I don't understand. The chemistry between the two leads when they are close to each other was incredible. I needed…
Really? I didn't get anything from them. Like zero. To be, Joke got aggressive and Zo looked scared. TBH, I've never found them to be a compelling couple.
I was pleasantly surprised by the opening, which promised a fresh and original series. They tricked me. This is the most tired plot iachievable, with the lead pursuing a girl, again, which takes up almost the entire episode and will likely take up much of the next few, and your overly bland tsundere who is obviously into the guy who likes the girl.
The leads have so little chemistry that they could be used in place of boron control rods in nuclear power plants. Again, vomiting. People object to aggressive pursuit of a love interest, but are fine with everyone drinking until they vomit. And it looks like face-punching is the plot element of the month.
Anyway, it wasn't terrible, just dull and uninteresting. I might stick around in hopes of an engaging secondary couple, but while they've stapled Joong and Dunk together until the sun burns out, they took Neo away from Louis, so we'll see how that goes.
Ep 5 was not the strongest. Nothing really happened and we got some really stilted conversations, like the one at the pool hall. The actors did as well as anyone could with that dialogue, I suppose.
There were also some sound issues.
But I do appreciate the gratuitous shirtlessness of the two beefy workers at the garage and the non-appearance of the overgrown rat. I'm not sure how they can wrap all this up in the time remaining - about 45 minutes.
In the photo section, who are the guys in the 5th photo from the left? Was the show re-cast or something?
You're the only one that makes any sense about the whole situation, I'm so annoyed that everyone is throwing shit…
I'm afraid that if I sent him a puppy and it bit him that he'd strangle it.
If Tai had told Patts, Patts would have rushed over immediately and there would have been a confrontation - and since it's a BL, he'd arrive at precisely the second he needed to to see something he'd misinterpret. It doesn't matter who anyone is or what their established character is, if a bad writer wants to get to a certain plot point, she'll make it happen even if it doesn't make sense.
Ironically, Lomfon has never lied to anyone about anything - he's been completely up front about his intentions. And lets not forget that Patts must be in his late 20s if he has a veterinary degree and opened a practice he's been operating for years, while Lomfon is 19 at most.
I don't think anyone is arguing that Tai was wrong to lie - obviously he was - but I'm astounded that so many people somehow think that's worse than attempted murder.
Did Patts apologize to Lomfon for trying to beat him to death? Is he taking responsibility for his actions? Tai…
I already said a million times that Tai was wrong to lie. They can both be wrong, you know - it's not a zero-sum situation. You seem to need to decide to be on someone's side. How can I support Tai? He's a fictional character. I don't really care what happens to him because he doesn't exist.
OK, so Patts hid the truth because he didn't want Tai to think about it and break up with him. That's what you're saying. So his reason was completely selfish.
By the same token, Tai hid that he was meeting Lomfon because he knew Patts would think about and get upset. Not as selfish, just cowardly.
Patts absolutely should apologize. Do you not see the difference between anything anyone in this series has done and physically assaulting another person? If you can't see the gigantic moral difference, I'm not sure what to tell you. If you don't believe in morality, then Patts should thank Lomfon for not calling the police and having him arrested for assault and battery.
You're telling me I support Tai, but you think it's OK that Patts tried to beat Lomfon to death and kept an important truth from Tai? Are you serious? You actually said Patts doesn't need to apologize for trying to kill Lomfon because he warned him. My God.
Tai shouldn't have lied, but he was afraid Patts would react exactly as he did, and lying was 1% as bad as what…
It absolutely is something to tell him - it's not a medical condition, he's a soulmate. It's clearly supernatural, as rain can't make you deaf except you hear your soulmate(s)'s voice. He should have warned Tai about it.
I think this one has potential. The writing was good - not the usual lazy reliance on stupid cliches, and the acting was very naturalistic, especially the main character, who's not listed above for some reason. I also like that the pursuer is a lot younger - that's a nice change.
It was a little slow - I liked that it took time to introduce the characters, but I didn't realize Bua was his sister until the very end - maybe that's just subtitles, but I really didn't get a sense of the relationships between the characters. Still, people had normal human reactions to things - Mon was standoffish but not to the point that he was a total asshole like is usually the case, and Thames was aggressive, but without crossing any major lines.
I'm a bit confused by the synopsis above - there wasn't the teeniest whiff of supernatural in this other than people's interest in talismans.
Tai shouldn't have lied, but he was afraid Patts would react exactly as he did, and lying was 1% as bad as what…
I think everyone has also forgotten that Patts knew Lomfon was Tai's soulmate and hid that from him for totally selfish reasons - a lie of ommission is still a lie, and that's worse than not telling your bf you're having coffee with a person you know he doesn't like. I'm not saying it's right, but it's not as bad as hiding something so fundamental.
Tai shouldn't have lied, but he was afraid Patts would react exactly as he did, and lying was 1% as bad as what…
OK, but Patts knew Lomfon was Tai's soulmate and hid that from him, which is a very serious lie of ommission, and he did it for selfish purposes. That's even worse than Tai's lie, which was meant to avoid upsetting Patts, and his concern that it would was extremely merited.
Note to everyone: Yes, Tai lied. But have you forgotten that Patts knew Lomfon was Tail's soulmate but hid that from Tai? That's a lie of ommission and it's a lot more serious than Tai's.
Tai wanted to keep his word to Lomfon and made a bad call that telling Patts would only upset him. Because he had no idea that Lomfon was his soulmate, he wasn't aware that this was a serious situation and certainly didn't expect Lomfon to kiss him. Even Lomfon didn't know Lomfon was going to kiss him.
But why was Patts so threatened? Because he knew Lomfon was also Tai's soulmate. That's such a huge thing to withhold that it's kind of unforgivable, because his motives were completely selfish.
I don't see how it's possible to view Tai as the person in the wrong here. He's in the wrong, but only a small fraction of the wrong Patts is in. Also, Tai didn't try to beat anyone to death, so he's got that on his scorecard, too.
Tai shouldn't have lied, but he was afraid Patts would react exactly as he did, and lying was 1% as bad as what…
That was quite a sentence.
If soulmates were a thing in the real world, I had a mystical connection to him, we're deeply in love, and he's committed himself to me, then I would trust him. If he lied to me like that, I'd not be happy and I'd need to talk about it. I would not need to beat the other guy to death.
And while we're on the subject of honesty, Patts KNEW Lomfon was Tai's soulmate but kept that from him - there are lies of ommission, too, and that's a bigger one than Tai's. If Patts had discussed this with Tai, none of this would have happened.
Funny you think it maintains the same seme-uke model, because I thought for sure they were going to make the more…
But notice that despite Gu Hai offering, and Bai Luo Yin being afraid, he still wanted to bottom.
Regarding football, probably. They likely wouldn't know the rules, but they'd be aware of the sport from movies. We know sumo wrestling involves.... festively plump guys, right?
What is it with BL and basketball? Why is it the sport played by 99% of BL characters? I looked it up, and it isn't anywhere near the top of the list of popular sports, which are:
Football (soccer) Muay Thai Golf Badminton Sepak Takraw Tennis Motorsports Weightlifting
So why always basketball? I realize it's easier to film than football, but so is tennis or Muay Thai, which has the added benefit of shirtlessness.
I wasn't entirely sure what you are saying - but BL has to be the least sexualized form of drama I've ever seen.…
Have you seen other romance genres? There's virtually no sex in BL, and the uke usually behaves like the seme is some freaky pervert for even wanting to kiss his cheek. That's not so bad when it's a high school drama, but that happens with characters in their mid-late 20s or even older.
Tai shouldn't have lied, but he was afraid Patts would react exactly as he did, and lying was 1% as bad as what…
It's not really an "incident." I could excuse him throwing one punch in an impulse of anger, but violently beating him that badly is not forgivable. It's like "well, he only raped one person, so we shouldn't judge him."
I agree with you about worse and worser - that's not really my point. My point is I find it astonishing that everyone seems to think this is all 100% Tai's fault and Patts isn't an attempted murderer. Patts is damned lucky Lomfon didn't call the police, because Patts' life would be over, and Lomfon would have been 100% justified in doing it.
But I think we're on the same page that it's really just terrible writing, and the author may not really understand that punching someone as hard as you can 10 times while they're pinned to the ground will kill them or very severely injure them. But as I said before, that they didn't put even a scratch on Lomfon seems to me to be a deliberate attempt to minimize the severity of what Patts did.
The assistants probably wrote Lonfon and Tien's scenes. That could explain why the teen angst is not as strong…
Tai & Patts broke up because Patts is a violent psycho - Tai can see whoever he wants to. Tai treats Lomfon like he treats everyone else - although it was another example of awful and lazy writing to have him get up on his tippy toes to say whatever he said to Lomfon - -just purely to make it look incriminating. I really hate whoever wrote this.
The leads have so little chemistry that they could be used in place of boron control rods in nuclear power plants. Again, vomiting. People object to aggressive pursuit of a love interest, but are fine with everyone drinking until they vomit. And it looks like face-punching is the plot element of the month.
Anyway, it wasn't terrible, just dull and uninteresting. I might stick around in hopes of an engaging secondary couple, but while they've stapled Joong and Dunk together until the sun burns out, they took Neo away from Louis, so we'll see how that goes.
There were also some sound issues.
But I do appreciate the gratuitous shirtlessness of the two beefy workers at the garage and the non-appearance of the overgrown rat. I'm not sure how they can wrap all this up in the time remaining - about 45 minutes.
In the photo section, who are the guys in the 5th photo from the left? Was the show re-cast or something?
If Tai had told Patts, Patts would have rushed over immediately and there would have been a confrontation - and since it's a BL, he'd arrive at precisely the second he needed to to see something he'd misinterpret. It doesn't matter who anyone is or what their established character is, if a bad writer wants to get to a certain plot point, she'll make it happen even if it doesn't make sense.
Ironically, Lomfon has never lied to anyone about anything - he's been completely up front about his intentions. And lets not forget that Patts must be in his late 20s if he has a veterinary degree and opened a practice he's been operating for years, while Lomfon is 19 at most.
I don't think anyone is arguing that Tai was wrong to lie - obviously he was - but I'm astounded that so many people somehow think that's worse than attempted murder.
OK, so Patts hid the truth because he didn't want Tai to think about it and break up with him. That's what you're saying. So his reason was completely selfish.
By the same token, Tai hid that he was meeting Lomfon because he knew Patts would think about and get upset. Not as selfish, just cowardly.
Patts absolutely should apologize. Do you not see the difference between anything anyone in this series has done and physically assaulting another person? If you can't see the gigantic moral difference, I'm not sure what to tell you. If you don't believe in morality, then Patts should thank Lomfon for not calling the police and having him arrested for assault and battery.
You're telling me I support Tai, but you think it's OK that Patts tried to beat Lomfon to death and kept an important truth from Tai? Are you serious? You actually said Patts doesn't need to apologize for trying to kill Lomfon because he warned him. My God.
It was a little slow - I liked that it took time to introduce the characters, but I didn't realize Bua was his sister until the very end - maybe that's just subtitles, but I really didn't get a sense of the relationships between the characters. Still, people had normal human reactions to things - Mon was standoffish but not to the point that he was a total asshole like is usually the case, and Thames was aggressive, but without crossing any major lines.
I'm a bit confused by the synopsis above - there wasn't the teeniest whiff of supernatural in this other than people's interest in talismans.
Tai wanted to keep his word to Lomfon and made a bad call that telling Patts would only upset him. Because he had no idea that Lomfon was his soulmate, he wasn't aware that this was a serious situation and certainly didn't expect Lomfon to kiss him. Even Lomfon didn't know Lomfon was going to kiss him.
But why was Patts so threatened? Because he knew Lomfon was also Tai's soulmate. That's such a huge thing to withhold that it's kind of unforgivable, because his motives were completely selfish.
I don't see how it's possible to view Tai as the person in the wrong here. He's in the wrong, but only a small fraction of the wrong Patts is in. Also, Tai didn't try to beat anyone to death, so he's got that on his scorecard, too.
If soulmates were a thing in the real world, I had a mystical connection to him, we're deeply in love, and he's committed himself to me, then I would trust him. If he lied to me like that, I'd not be happy and I'd need to talk about it. I would not need to beat the other guy to death.
And while we're on the subject of honesty, Patts KNEW Lomfon was Tai's soulmate but kept that from him - there are lies of ommission, too, and that's a bigger one than Tai's. If Patts had discussed this with Tai, none of this would have happened.
Regarding football, probably. They likely wouldn't know the rules, but they'd be aware of the sport from movies. We know sumo wrestling involves.... festively plump guys, right?
What is it with BL and basketball? Why is it the sport played by 99% of BL characters? I looked it up, and it isn't anywhere near the top of the list of popular sports, which are:
Football (soccer)
Muay Thai
Golf
Badminton
Sepak Takraw
Tennis
Motorsports
Weightlifting
So why always basketball? I realize it's easier to film than football, but so is tennis or Muay Thai, which has the added benefit of shirtlessness.
Saint is taller than Perth (Love By Chance), so that's unusual.
I agree with you about worse and worser - that's not really my point. My point is I find it astonishing that everyone seems to think this is all 100% Tai's fault and Patts isn't an attempted murderer. Patts is damned lucky Lomfon didn't call the police, because Patts' life would be over, and Lomfon would have been 100% justified in doing it.
But I think we're on the same page that it's really just terrible writing, and the author may not really understand that punching someone as hard as you can 10 times while they're pinned to the ground will kill them or very severely injure them. But as I said before, that they didn't put even a scratch on Lomfon seems to me to be a deliberate attempt to minimize the severity of what Patts did.