I'm still struggling to understand why what Jeng did was bad in the slightest. He adopted Pat's strategy, then…
I doubt he was thinking he would put money in when they came up with the idea - he probably sat around obsessing over it and then his control-freakishness got the best of him. If it's an issue of trust, then Pat is worse as he doesn't trust that Jeng had only good intentions. Pat can be upset, but not to the point of breaking up - that's a conversation to be had.
Pat isn't a peer - he barely even has any experience and the opportunities he's been given are enormous, and yet he doesn't appreciate it at all. Bosses aren't obligated to tell anyone when they make a change to something - it happens all the time. This is more complicated because they're in a relationship and Jeng should have been open with Pat about it, which he almost certainly would have if the writers kept him in character, because there's aboslutely no reason whatsoever for him to do that secretly other than to generate artificail drama in the penultimate episode.
I took it to mean that Jeng used his money to buy engagements on the social media pages. So basically he was saying…
They had too little time for Pat's idea to work without a boost. He should have told Pat (he didn't because he was afraid he'd get the reaction he did get), and Pat is justified in being annoyed, but not breaking up and storming off for two years. That's something that merited a discussion. "When you did X, I felt Y." It wasn't malice, he was trying to ensure Pat's idea was successful. His reaction was just way too strong.
I'm sort of there with you, except I have to side with Jaab because Jen has been so non-existent in the story…
I can't stand him either. I honestly don't remember what happened between Jaab and Jane - has Jane even been in this for the last 5 episodes? Maybe the actor got a gig on a much better show.
IDK. Its an issue because the project turned out to be overbudget once the secret payments were factored in, and…
If Jeng put in his own personal money, that has nothing to do with the budget. Isn't that a show of faith? Would you put money into something you thought would fail? I would be irritated at Jeng for doing it without telling me, but I certainly wouldn't break up with him.
Fraud is only when you trick someone out of money. To call what Jeng did fraud would be to consider someone who gave money to a bank a thief. I just don't see how this is succeeding dishonestly.
I am watching this for the first time and I really like it so far. My only question is, what is so special about…
He's cute. He's supposed to have a sleazy vibe to him. In other series where he's not a bad person, he's really adorable. I don't really see how facial hair makes someoen sleazy inherently - Mayom has some and it's hard to see him as sleazy.
I haven't watched this yet because I was waiting for it to finish airing but the comments are all so brutal, should…
If you like slow burn relationships, then no. If you like "no burn" relationships between a hot guy and an annoying whiney awful baby, then yes.
I'm on ep 11 and I'll probably finish if for no other reason than that there is nothing else airing on Tuesdays, but I would have to rate this the most tedious waste of time in my entire BL-watching career. Nothing in this really makes emotional sense and it was clearly written by a histrionic narcissist.
We need an explanation as to what transpired. What is apparent is that Jeng put his money into helping his department.…
Dad showed him evidence that Jeng spent his money on the project. An normal human being would have been happy, thinking, "wow, he must really believe in my if he's willing to put his own resources behind my idea." Instead he was horrible to him and dumped him. Good riddance to a horrible baby.
So this was again one of those classical drama for the sake of drama plots. Always perfect Mr. Jeng "forgot" to…
I'm still struggling to understand why what Jeng did was bad in the slightest. He adopted Pat's strategy, then put his own resources on the line to support it - that's believing in someone, not lack of trust. Whether or not Jeng told him he spent money is immaterial, and frankly really none of Pat's business.
So Pat is upset because Jeng supported his idea with money? Why is this even an issue? If my bf did that, I would be grateful that he was willing to put his own resources on the line for my idea.
How is this a bad thing in any way? And who in their right mind doesn't take advantage of opportunities and relationships to get ahead? The ability to leverage relationships for mutual benefit is a critical skill for success - nobody gets things done alone or on their own talent - it's all about building the right relationships. "I don't know if I succeed because of my own ability or because you like me." Gosh, what a burden to have a partner that supports you. Jeng went with Pat's idea, didn't he? And it worked, right?
Why is Jeng interested in this whiny little baby? Ugh, I really loathe Pat more than I have any BL character.
And who breaks into people houses to clean their kitchen? If that's what thieves do, I'm going to stop locking my door.
That last line repeated three times was so stupid and cringey that it made me moan, and once I got over the shock of how bad it was I was almost crying with laughter - who thought that had dramatic impact?
So Pat is upset because Jeng supported his idea with money? Why is this even an issue? If my bf did that, I would be grateful that he was willing to put his own resources on the line for my idea.
How is this a bad thing in any way? And who in their right mind doesn't take advantage of opportunities and relationships to get ahead? The ability to leverage relationships for mutual benefit is a critical skill for success - nobody gets things done alone or on their own talent - it's all about building the right relationships. "I don't know if I succeed because of my own ability or because you like me." Gosh, what a burden to have a partner that supports you. Jeng went with Pat's idea, didn't he? And it worked, right?
Why is Jeng interested in this whiny little baby? Ugh, I really loathe Pat more than I have any BL character.
I am so tired of these characters. If I had my way, after the two year jump, Jeng will be in a healthy, loving…
I'm sort of there with you, except I have to side with Jaab because Jen has been so non-existent in the story that I can't recall a single thing he's ever said or done. I'm not saying you're wrong, I just have no way of judging.
I love Up and think he's one of the best actors in this series, but Put is awful. Pat is a useless Debbie Downer, but at least he's not a horrible person.
I just watched some of this again - this wins the prize for most underrated BL of all time. It's not the best BL of all time, but it's the most underrated. I really like that people behave like people, and altohugh they overreact or misinterpret things, they think about it discuss it. Like when Tawan was pissed off at Mork for keeping the truth from him, in a normal BL that would have stetched out for 3 episodes and involved a lot of montages of happy memories to a blaring power ballad, but here he thought about if for about an hour and decided he would have done the same thing and totally got over it. That has to qualify as a minor miracle.
Pat isn't a peer - he barely even has any experience and the opportunities he's been given are enormous, and yet he doesn't appreciate it at all. Bosses aren't obligated to tell anyone when they make a change to something - it happens all the time. This is more complicated because they're in a relationship and Jeng should have been open with Pat about it, which he almost certainly would have if the writers kept him in character, because there's aboslutely no reason whatsoever for him to do that secretly other than to generate artificail drama in the penultimate episode.
Fraud is only when you trick someone out of money. To call what Jeng did fraud would be to consider someone who gave money to a bank a thief. I just don't see how this is succeeding dishonestly.
I'm on ep 11 and I'll probably finish if for no other reason than that there is nothing else airing on Tuesdays, but I would have to rate this the most tedious waste of time in my entire BL-watching career. Nothing in this really makes emotional sense and it was clearly written by a histrionic narcissist.
How is this a bad thing in any way? And who in their right mind doesn't take advantage of opportunities and relationships to get ahead? The ability to leverage relationships for mutual benefit is a critical skill for success - nobody gets things done alone or on their own talent - it's all about building the right relationships. "I don't know if I succeed because of my own ability or because you like me." Gosh, what a burden to have a partner that supports you. Jeng went with Pat's idea, didn't he? And it worked, right?
Why is Jeng interested in this whiny little baby? Ugh, I really loathe Pat more than I have any BL character.
And who breaks into people houses to clean their kitchen? If that's what thieves do, I'm going to stop locking my door.
That last line repeated three times was so stupid and cringey that it made me moan, and once I got over the shock of how bad it was I was almost crying with laughter - who thought that had dramatic impact?
How is this a bad thing in any way? And who in their right mind doesn't take advantage of opportunities and relationships to get ahead? The ability to leverage relationships for mutual benefit is a critical skill for success - nobody gets things done alone or on their own talent - it's all about building the right relationships. "I don't know if I succeed because of my own ability or because you like me." Gosh, what a burden to have a partner that supports you. Jeng went with Pat's idea, didn't he? And it worked, right?
Why is Jeng interested in this whiny little baby? Ugh, I really loathe Pat more than I have any BL character.
I love Up and think he's one of the best actors in this series, but Put is awful. Pat is a useless Debbie Downer, but at least he's not a horrible person.
Also, I want to climb Mt. Mayom.