kaddie001

I like how you completely avoid the MCU example 🙄. To claim that flashbacks are shallow and lazy is like someone who complains about the split infinitive in the sentence, “To bodily go where no one has gone before.” It depends on the context and situation. There is no hard, defensible rule that makes it wrong. Flashbacks in an 2hr movie don’t make sense. You just don’t have the time for the flashback and driving the show forward. Flashbacks in a 33+ hour series is just fine if they are compelling. If you are trying to claim that the flashback of PSJ with her brother and shooting arrows wasn’t compelling then you’re doubly nuts. If you are trying to claim that the backstory for the mermaid story wasn’t compelling and added to the emotion of the story then that’s weird. But maybe you’re weird…

As for the publicity, i challenge you to find me as many marketing posts online or offline as we have seen for The Double, Kill Me Love Me or even The Story of Pearl Girl.

Heck, iQIYI even released this show at the last minute with barely any separation from when it received its license to when they aired it. Even though the public was not prepared, the show has soared. And, yes, it is an example of the show’s popularity that other shows are imitating them. Right now, this is already a sleeper hit. The question is whether it can become a mega sleeper hit.

Are you nuts?!? You can see that he’s guilty. He says that he’s guilty. Are you going to be dishonorable and let him go? Especially, when your group is known for executing people for less. Immediate danger? Seriously, you must not live in the US. The police shoot and kill people all the time, with impunity, when there’s no immediate danger. At present, the Chongwu Camp are the bad guys so it makes sense for them to operate that way. And they clearly stated that they were not going to arrest him. They were going to kill him and he was surrounded by people with crossbows. Even Superman wouldn’t have been able to dodge all those arrows. But her decision was driven by her deep sense of honor and adherence to the law. Those aren’t bad qualities.

As for an investigation, the Demon Hunting crew needed the big demon’s help to know who was behind it. How in the world would her previous employers have even figured that out??? It would have been stupid writing to do what you’re describing. On top of that, you act like she didn’t look for answers after he became a demon and just accepted things. The show clearly states that she investigated the situation 3 times and could find nothing.

If you don’t like the director that’s fine. But you’re storyline is far less believable than his

Ditto…

If you’re going to claim something as factual like there are plot holes or the pacing is slow then bring proof otherwise prepare to be challenged. If you can’t handle the challenge then don’t start something. I feel like I’m talking to Drake fans during his beef with Kendrick Lamar

How on earth can you come to that conclusion? 🤣

The Baize token just made its first full appearance in episode 10 so we don’t have enough info to know if the goddess is weak or strong. What we do know is the first goddess was powerful enough to strip power away from the most powerful demon in the land even though she was sick at the time.

Man…episodes 10 & 11
I went from a “did they jump the shark moment?” in episode 10 to a “WTF” in a good way set of moments in Ep 11. Now, I’m demanding that they drop 12 immediately 🙏🏼😄

One thing I noticed is that starting with episode 9, it feels like the wipes that follow a flashback have been change to a station blip type of transition. Almost like someone is controlling the situation 🤔

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is she? She looks way younger than wen Xiao to me

2nd billing? LOL. In the 21st century, the billing structure is that the 1st ML and 1st FL are considered to have equal billing unless one of them is some kind of megastar. The FL starred in the most Googled show of 2018. She went on to win many awards. One of the reasons why Netflix offered her a deal is because of her high name recognition inside and outside of Asia

“ For a high-budget drama with popular actors and ip, reaching 7 500 is average. However, for a low budget with no so well-known actors and not-so-popular ip, reaching 7 500 shows that the drama is a success.”

Please read more carefully next time.

I wonder if there’s any significance to the fact that only Bai Lu and ZYC had to cover their ears after they exited the portal in Chapter 8

Are you kidding? How was she going to investigate her brother’s story when the Chongwu (sp.) Camp already had him surrounded and had stated that if she couldn’t kill him at that moment, they would do it for her. Not to mention he was covered in innocent people’s blood, and he really did murder innocent people. It doesn’t matter than he was being controlled. It was his actions that led him to being controlled. Episode 5 already stated clearly that letting someone one use you to commit crimes does not absolve you of responsibility for those crimes.

It’s just a shame that he couldn’t tell her that he wanted to help her because he loved her instead letting her believe that he became a demon because was jealous of her.

As for plot holes around killing, I’d love for you to provide another example of what you think you’ve observed.

I wonder if they were twins. They seemed very close in ages and shared very similar first names

Thank you for providing your example. You understand that to become a puppet the person had to die. CL was collecting the souls of the people that he tricked. Puppets are just a type of zombie that CL could control. PSG’s brother had become a demon that had committed atrocities. The show stated very clearly in Episode 5 that the end does not justify the means. He would have had to go to prison.

With those facts, it makes sense that no one was in a rush to save his ‘life’. The scene starts with PSG being challenged to repeat the decision she made 3 months ago. Did she understand her brother better now? As for PSG’s actions in Epis 8-9, if you paid attention during those flashbacks that you seem to abhor, you would know that PSG loved her brother and was willing to sacrifice her future and happiness to protect him and to live up to their family’s legacy even when it caused her physical pain. Although she followed the law of the Chongwu (sp?) Camp, it makes sense that she would be depressed, conflicted and overwhelmed by guilt over his death at her hands.

It’s a situation that could have been avoided if the siblings had been able to communicate better. As I learned from Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon regret about not expressing one’s feelings better is a common theme in Chinese tragedies. Plus, both PSG siblings were in their twenties. Most people don’t learn to communicate their feelings well until they’ve had way more life experience.

If the production companies in C-entertainment industry didn’t care about international audiences then they would license to international platforms or provide subtitles in languages other than Mandarin or Cantonese, or etc.

Common sense should tell you that. Most companies and industries live by the motto, “You can never be rich enough”.

Wu Jingyan starred in the most Googled show on the planet in 2018. It made her a household name throughout Asia ever since. She may not model as frequently as women like Zhao Luisi or Bai Lu, but she’s not new a ‘nobody’

Ah, I think you’ll want to retract that statement. Literally, there’s a page on MDL dedicated to helping fans understanding iQIYI’s heat index.

“ Heat Index measures the investment and popularity of a drama. It takes into account the video views, search, and engagement for a drama. The way it is calculated is not really clear and is proper for the company. So, we can't compare it with other companies' heat index.
Signification of iQiyi heat index (from my interpretation) :

A drama has some popularity when the index reaches 5 500/6 000 (5 500 for dramas that aired all the episodes the same day)
A drama that reaches 9 000 is well known and really popular.
A drama that reached 10k can be considered a super popular and successful drama (top drama from the platform).
10k is not the limit and the score can be higher.
The comparison between dramas of the same company is not significant too. Depending on the actors, the IP's popularity, the drama's budget, etc..., the score's meaning is totally different. For a high-budget drama with popular actors and ip, reaching 7 500 is average. However, for a low budget with no so well-known actors and not-so-popular ip, reaching 7 500 shows that the drama is a success.”

https://it.mydramalist.com/list/4q6a5k81

Even if you think that the author’s interpretation is incorrect, it’s a fact that most iQIYI dramas don’t exceed 8000.

As for Yunhe, it tends to be a stronger indicator once the show has aired over 50% of its episodes which is why The Double first day scores were only moderately higher than FoF’s despite that fact that The Double had an A-lister FL and ML, quadruple the advertising, and bowed during the summer when school was out and people were in holiday.

Hmm…are you a really trying to say that GJM has as big a fanbase as A-list stars??? Are you trying to say that FoF was promoted heavily on the street, Weibo, etc.? Heck, even on MDL, there hasn’t been a single article dedicated to it despite that fact that this page is one of the most active on the site. MDL even dedicated an article to The Story of Pearl Girl a few days before its scheduled to bow to help drum up business for it. The fact that FoF destroyed and continues to destroy better promoted, A lister headlined shows is incredible and deserves applause.

As for flashbacks slowing down the pacing or the pacing being slow that’s also ridiculous. In 4 episodes, the first case was solved. In 9 episodes, we learned compelling backstories for four of the five demon hunters. If you want to talk about slow pacing let’s look at Yanxi Palace that took 20 episodes to identify the sister’s killer and 70 episodes to bring him to justice. Yet, ‘pacing’ didn’t keep it from being called a hit by many of the same people trying pan FoF.

As for flashbacks being ineffective, the other option is to have the characters encounter situations or people from their present that remind them of their past and then use exposition to fill in the gaps. I have a feeling that if GJM had used that method, there would be complainants from the same folks criticizing flashbacks. This time they would claim
that the situations felt artificial and shoehorned in.

When flashbacks are done well - as they are in FoF - they provide a way to connect more deeply with the character’s motivations because the audience can see and hear what the character experienced. Flashbacks tend not to be used in films because that format is too short to support that level of deeper insight. This is one of the reasons why Kevin Feige and the MCU released 21 movies before Endgame. They needed the time to provide compelling backstories for the main characters.

Now, maybe the MCU wasn’t to your liking. That’s fine, but it also means that you are non representative of the majority opinion.

Please provide the exact episode and scene where the main character is about to be killed and the other characters do nothing

1) The Double had an A lister so it better have bowed bigger

2) The Double did not start or climb to 90m overnight. In fact it started in the low 20s https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php/?story_fbid=461297550084990&id=10008614247684

3) The Double was released on June 2nd. There was no competition from school nights and many people were on holiday. It had no reason to loose steam during the work week. We’ll see by next Monday if FoF performs like a show released in Fall, outside of a holiday weekend window, or if it performs like a show released in Summer. The fact that FoF hit 1.4M views on Douban’s live TV index, during a Fall non-holiday weekend is extraordinary. And it did so without any A-listers

4) The Netflix comments are directly related to revenue potential. Residuals from foreign markets have become big business in recent years; just look at the Turkish TV industry. Netflix thought that The Double would resonate outside of China. It didn’t. Netflix wants shows to succeed as badly as the Production companies because content providers need to retain and attract viewers to justify their stock prices. The Double flopping internationally is a big deal

LOL. Jealousy. The rating on Weibo has increased from 9.4 to 9.8

This show has it all. I read that many Netizens were crying along with PSJ