the casting looks so weird like I don't know most of the ppl in the top supporting role... the order ain't lining…
According to the official drama announcement: M cast listing is by screen time, while the F cast listing follows alphabetical order. Jeremy is a guest star.
SLY performance update post SVIP finale (16 days now)
1. SLY broke historical 🥭record: the only drama to ever broke 100M+ front desk views for 36 consecutive days, other popular 🥭drama only 15-22 days max. Most dramas see their charts plunge off a cliff after SVIP but SLY trend is like a dragon flying in the sky, extremely good long-tail trend, despite operating on only 23% on weibo Marketing compared to another 🥭S++ production.
2. Now 1.8B+ views on Maoyan, climbing 2025 charts at record speed. Currently ranked No. 5 will hit No. 4 by tomorrow, the only 🥭 drama in the top 10. While top 3 have been airing since January–August, SLY is the fastest 2025 drama to break top 5. By December, a spot in the top 3 is inevitable—and reaching No. 1 is possible. For 🥭that is a huge Milestone.
3. Still no 1 on Maoyan for Novembers drama view count, despite 2 popular Qiyi drama airing.
4. Big Note: NO third-party data, incl Maoyan, counted Migu, which broke its historical record by 15100+ heats. Migu is mainly male viewers. Maoyan counted Hunan TV and 🥭 but not Migu, making SLY data EVEN MORE impressive.
5. SLY 🥭 front desk drama views is the highest since ’23 now 4.8B (note that 🥭 itself used its front desk data in their financial report). With its strong long tail, it is possible in the next 1-2 months to also break the 🥭 record for most viewed per episode .
6. SLY variety show is also the most viewed drama VS in 🥭 history, by at least 100% margin compared to other 🥭 VS Drama
7. SLY broke Qiyi International historical records as the most viewed drama in one day, surpassing 10M. The significance here is HUGE: SLY is not a Qiyi drama, and Qiyi was airing 2 flagship dramas. This why I ABSOLUTELY don’t care abt MDL rating for SLY or I should call Weibo 2.0 😂
8. Hunan TV ratings: No. 1 for 14 days during its airing for all Satellite TV.
9. SLY merchandise sales top 1 in 2025, still increasing big time.
10. IPTV data is over 95 points for 3 weeks (95 marks the exceptional result of drama)
11. China Daily spotlighted Shui Long Yin, highlighting Associated Press coverage — a rare honor for any drama or actor to be featured by China Daily. LYX himself has been featured/mentioned by China Daily at least 10 times since his Runyu era. Recognized for his excellent acting and cultural contribution.
12. Most recently, Prominent China Women’s Daily praised the show’s strong popularity among college students.
13. Today Beijing TV another prominent TV called SLY international success story. These state own TV knows the data, they can get them from another state own company China Mobile _ SLY investor.
Btw I must update, the latest Yunhe coefficient is 0.023 😂, which if I use the average Yunhe Coefficient for other 🥭popular drama, that’s 15x, making the views on par on what Maoyan recorded 50+M post VIP finale, and if I use Qiyi average Yunhe coefficient of 0.5, then SLY post finale is around 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂you can count.
Luo Yunxi has done his main job: elevating 🥭 and Migu platforms to a higher level, allowing 🥭 to sit with the other big players — just as Luo Yunxi did with Till the End of the Moon, elevating Youku status now among the big boys. TTEOTM youku most viewed drama records and 36 consecutive days above 10.000 heats have not been broken yet.
The data is so satisfying despite of course hater calling for Yunhe data 😂 - Congratulation Luo Yunxi for breaking Yunhe lowest coefficient in history of Chinese Drama 😂 😂 😂
No romance, no kisses, no he—MDL audiences struggle with this type drama. But honestly, who cares? Its success…
Those who know how Sly is performing know the performance is excellent with multiple data metric supporting each other. Lyx has a lot of haters on Mdl since 2022 so none of these pp talking nonsense affect me at all. SLY long tail is mimicking dragon soaring instead of the usual falling down the cliff 😉
oooo we still have a month to go for this year and it’s already 3.9B today , I hope it tops the charts !!
We will hit 5.3 Billion in 2-3 months making us not only no 1 in ttl views but also average views per eps. Our long tail is incredibly good. For cat eye if you count Migu I estimate we r in top 3 already among all drama
whats wrong with people in MDL??? 8???? it should be +9
No romance, no kisses, no he—MDL audiences struggle with this type drama. But honestly, who cares? Its success in China and on international platforms speaks for itself, with 3 citywide celebration concerts already planned and even a possible Singapore stop in January. After all, no company organizes 3 massive concerts with 10,000 seats unless the drama is HIGHLY profitable—their job is to make $, not lose $
8.0, YOU'RE KIDDING ME???????? I rlly don't get the rating at all. Instead of going up like I had expected, it's…
My conclusion: MDL audience is not ready for this type of drama. Evident by people can not except non romance and non happy ending. Sm of the criticism valid, some using microscope to zoom into every imperfection. What's important is it is a BIG success in China and topping charts on international platform.
Lyx, Shun Yao, Allen, Chen Yao, Lin Yun, YSZ, Xie Bin2, Ms Hong actress, Li Jiahao, Li Muyan. Missing Bao &Ao…
Actor from producer side: Xu fu ren, Gu Xi Tan characters. It is possible steaming on mango, they are the co producer of this concert. But I'm waiting for the Singapore one. LYX was in Singapore for a few days a short while ago, checking venue???
🍉LYX’s contract with ZSTC will end July 26. ZSTC lacks the team to support an actor of his caliber. Whether he goes independent or joins a stronger agency, I wish him success. LYX deserves mainstream, big IP dramas, but this is far beyond ZSTC capability. LYX has not had big IP projects, smaller IP became famous because of him, with producers approaching him directly. His manager does not have qualification to manager any low tier actor let alone LYX status.
If true, the timing fits—his contract was renewed in July 2022, so 4 years is right. 🍉He still has 1 drama left he must film for ZSTC.
LYX will be busy with WoF concert until January and music festival, still have an album to be released and promoted. Promotion for his modern drama in Q1 '26. So I actually hope instead he can take a rest and wait till his contract ends before filming another drama. As he did in 2022, he waited till his sub contract with Lanfeng expired before filmed LCR.
I agree about the screenwriter. This particular producer never hired well-established screenwriter, director and a strong editing team—something they definitely can afford. But the positive aspect outweigh the neg here.
Most MDL viewers expect romance with tons of kisses & MUST HAVE HE. MDL dislike Male centric drama. Reviewed complaints about not showing every martial arts backstory are unrealistic—big ensemble dramas like MLC, Immortal A, or Blood of Youth didn’t either, unless you want 70 episodes. Many zoom in to criticize CGI on some part while overall it is already 3-4x better than other drama. Some viewers are confused with the plot, but the for me the plot is clear enough. Of course they are areas that could be improved (cutting some character, smoother editing, showed the celestial realm missing plot, etc). My conclusion, many MDL audiences just aren’t ready for this kind of drama.
Meanwhile, SLY’s success in China is undeniable. High review ratings on Baidu and Weibo (far more reviewer than Douban).
No investor would commit to hosting 3 citywide celebration concerts with 10,000 seats each, plus overseas events, unless SLY exceeded their expectation (their job is to make $ not to lose $)
SLY continues to shine post Finale • 10 actors will join the WoF concert with a 10,000-seat audience, giving huge exposure to supporting cast, many of whom never has this large-scale stage. • After the VIP Finale, SLY still delivers big wins:
o Maoyan Q4 2025: #1 viewership, 1.432B per yesterday o TV drama rating on Satelite TV no 1 o Variety show on airing day: #1 across all variety shows (the 1st time in history for a drama vs). o Secured Vita’s title sponsorship POST FINALE—the most expensive deal, usually signed at airing, proving EXCEPTIONAL success. • During airing: #1 drama viewed on Xiaomi, Oppo, Huawei mobile phone (via China Mobile). • Internationally: #1 in USA, UK, Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, and more. Achieved all this in a non-summer season, competing head-to-head with two traffic dramas, with only 30% of typical promotion and on 🥭is nothing but extraordinary.
Maoyan, ,unlike the 2person staff Yunhe, is a publicly listed company on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange with around 900 employees.
Whispers of Fate marks the end of Luo Yunxi and Otter Culture’s trilogy, following Immortality and Till the End of the Moon.
Well, cemetery was today so review didn’t happen today. Now just resting; I still can’t believe they’re…
Lyx, Shun Yao, Allen, Chen Yao, Lin Yun, YSZ, Xie Bin2, Ms Hong actress, Li Jiahao, Li Muyan. Missing Bao &Ao Yi Zi (busy filming?),and Jeremy ( too expensive😂) ? Also mystery singer from OST. True Shanghai 10.000 seats concerts, rsvp for tix already more than 10.000 now. 2 more cities underway. The last big one was CQL. Take care....
SLY’s first 10,000 seat celebration concert has been announced, with 2 more cities (+maybe Singapore) awaiting…
Let me add: LYX team answered fans that the reason for holding a concert is the drama’s immense popularity. However, they are still working to secure other 2 venues, which has proven difficult since they waited for the drama’s performance results. So more cities dates will be announced only after securing the venue.
Additionally, regarding Yunhe’s coefficient being as low as 0.04: for SLY to reach 40 million views under Yunhe’s metrics, Tang Li Ci needs to invite 32 billion ALIEN to watch every single SLY video, including the trailers, bts etc 🤣 🤣 🤣
But the facts that it is closing in to 🥭 top 1 views fr 23-25 speaks for itself.
1. SLY broke historical 🥭record: the only drama to ever broke 100M+ front desk views for 36 consecutive days, other popular 🥭drama only 15-22 days max. Most dramas see their charts plunge off a cliff after SVIP but SLY trend is like a dragon flying in the sky, extremely good long-tail trend, despite operating on only 23% on weibo Marketing compared to another 🥭S++ production.
2. Now 1.8B+ views on Maoyan, climbing 2025 charts at record speed. Currently ranked No. 5 will hit No. 4 by tomorrow, the only 🥭 drama in the top 10. While top 3 have been airing since January–August, SLY is the fastest 2025 drama to break top 5. By December, a spot in the top 3 is inevitable—and reaching No. 1 is possible. For 🥭that is a huge Milestone.
3. Still no 1 on Maoyan for Novembers drama view count, despite 2 popular Qiyi drama airing.
4. Big Note: NO third-party data, incl Maoyan, counted Migu, which broke its historical record by 15100+ heats. Migu is mainly male viewers. Maoyan counted Hunan TV and 🥭 but not Migu, making SLY data EVEN MORE impressive.
5. SLY 🥭 front desk drama views is the highest since ’23 now 4.8B (note that 🥭 itself used its front desk data in their financial report). With its strong long tail, it is possible in the next 1-2 months to also break the 🥭 record for most viewed per episode .
6. SLY variety show is also the most viewed drama VS in 🥭 history, by at least 100% margin compared to other 🥭 VS Drama
7. SLY broke Qiyi International historical records as the most viewed drama in one day, surpassing 10M. The significance here is HUGE: SLY is not a Qiyi drama, and Qiyi was airing 2 flagship dramas. This why I ABSOLUTELY don’t care abt MDL rating for SLY or I should call Weibo 2.0 😂
8. Hunan TV ratings: No. 1 for 14 days during its airing for all Satellite TV.
9. SLY merchandise sales top 1 in 2025, still increasing big time.
10. IPTV data is over 95 points for 3 weeks (95 marks the exceptional result of drama)
11. China Daily spotlighted Shui Long Yin, highlighting Associated Press coverage — a rare honor for any drama or actor to be featured by China Daily. LYX himself has been featured/mentioned by China Daily at least 10 times since his Runyu era. Recognized for his excellent acting and cultural contribution.
12. Most recently, Prominent China Women’s Daily praised the show’s strong popularity among college students.
13. Today Beijing TV another prominent TV called SLY international success story. These state own TV knows the data, they can get them from another state own company China Mobile _ SLY investor.
Btw I must update, the latest Yunhe coefficient is 0.023 😂, which if I use the average Yunhe Coefficient for other 🥭popular drama, that’s 15x, making the views on par on what Maoyan recorded 50+M post VIP finale, and if I use Qiyi average Yunhe coefficient of 0.5, then SLY post finale is around 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂you can count.
Luo Yunxi has done his main job: elevating 🥭 and Migu platforms to a higher level, allowing 🥭 to sit with the other big players — just as Luo Yunxi did with Till the End of the Moon, elevating Youku status now among the big boys. TTEOTM youku most viewed drama records and 36 consecutive days above 10.000 heats have not been broken yet.
The data is so satisfying despite of course hater calling for Yunhe data 😂 - Congratulation Luo Yunxi for breaking Yunhe lowest coefficient in history of Chinese Drama 😂 😂 😂
His manager does not have qualification to manager any low tier actor let alone LYX status.
If true, the timing fits—his contract was renewed in July 2022, so 4 years is right. 🍉He still has 1 drama left he must film for ZSTC.
LYX will be busy with WoF concert until January and music festival, still have an album to be released and promoted. Promotion for his modern drama in Q1 '26. So I actually hope instead he can take a rest and wait till his contract ends before filming another drama. As he did in 2022, he waited till his sub contract with Lanfeng expired before filmed LCR.
Meanwhile, SLY’s success in China is undeniable. High review ratings on Baidu and Weibo (far more reviewer than Douban).
No investor would commit to hosting 3 citywide celebration concerts with 10,000 seats each, plus overseas events, unless SLY exceeded their expectation (their job is to make $ not to lose $)
• 10 actors will join the WoF concert with a 10,000-seat audience, giving huge exposure to supporting cast, many of whom never has this large-scale stage.
• After the VIP Finale, SLY still delivers big wins:
o Maoyan Q4 2025: #1 viewership, 1.432B per yesterday
o TV drama rating on Satelite TV no 1
o Variety show on airing day: #1 across all variety shows (the 1st time in history for a drama vs).
o Secured Vita’s title sponsorship POST FINALE—the most expensive deal, usually signed at airing, proving EXCEPTIONAL success.
• During airing: #1 drama viewed on Xiaomi, Oppo, Huawei mobile phone (via China Mobile).
• Internationally: #1 in USA, UK, Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, and more.
Achieved all this in a non-summer season, competing head-to-head with two traffic dramas, with only 30% of typical promotion and on 🥭is nothing but extraordinary.
Maoyan, ,unlike the 2person staff Yunhe, is a publicly listed company on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange with around 900 employees.
Whispers of Fate marks the end of Luo Yunxi and Otter Culture’s trilogy, following Immortality and Till the End of the Moon.
LYX team answered fans that the reason for holding a concert is the drama’s immense popularity. However, they are still working to secure other 2 venues, which has proven difficult since they waited for the drama’s performance results. So more cities dates will be announced only after securing the venue.
Additionally, regarding Yunhe’s coefficient being as low as 0.04: for SLY to reach 40 million views under Yunhe’s metrics, Tang Li Ci needs to invite 32 billion ALIEN to watch every single SLY video, including the trailers, bts etc 🤣 🤣 🤣
But the facts that it is closing in to 🥭 top 1 views fr 23-25 speaks for itself.