lilseemonster

I don't want to kill him at all! I absolutely hate sad endings. I don't think it was a dream he came back. I just wish that battle scene, even though it was beautifully shot, never happened. I also wanted Wen Ji and Lu Ji to survive, and have families of their own. Wen Ji and Situ Jiu Yue were such a cute bickering couple. I wish I could erase their deaths from my memory 😭

To be clear again, I understand their intention is that it's a happy ending and I've read their statements saying so. So yes, it's a happy ending. That doesn't mean I think the plot is logical. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

Also, I know there's been a lot of back and forth. I want to make sure you don't think I'm being negative. I respect your opinion. Everyone's perspective and interpretation is different and that's okay.

I love that we're talking about Art of War 🥰. I will still have to respectfully disagree that the examples you provided are different. With Wen Ji, he wasn't a lone stander. He still had reinforcements and soldiers by his side.

Yes, soldiers must obey their commander. In the same text link you sent me, they also say "If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight, even though the ruler forbid it; if fighting will not result in victory, then you must not fight even at the ruler's bidding." In Xiao Heng's case, they clearly would've won because he's the lone man on the field.

The other excerpts you included don't support an entire army surrendering because one man defeated their commander/ruler. For example, Li Shi Min still had an army. The excerpt you're referencing is more about the fact that he leveraged terrain to get an advantage over the rebels to successfully defeat them. If two army's strength are equal and one has the upper hand in terrain, that army will with the upper hand will win. It doesn't say that the rebels retreated in that passage. But rather, if you know your enemy is in an advantageous location, the strategy is to retreat your troops and try to lure the opposing army from their advantageous location.

Also to be clear, I understand that Yu Zheng said this is a happy ending. However, I think the way they ended that final battle makes it very hard to believe anyone would have survived. Instead they should have shown Xiao Heng defeating them or getting reinforcements rather than making him seem super human by having him survive against an entire army. I am still of the camp that that final battle was all for shock factor (and WXY looks amazing in it), I need to toss all logic aside to believe the archers after killing Wen Ji didn't not shoot at XH immediately after.

I will be there also!

That's a completely different situation. King Chen's forces were outnumbered. Xiao Heng got his Long Wu Army back right behind him. There's also imperial guards in the palace. Situ Jiuyue was there with her reinforcements from Zhao. King Chen tried to use the concubine to escape, which is why he said he'd come back to take the Emperor's head next year. They already knew they were going to lose. His men were outnumbered and would be continuing to commit treason vs. in the final battle that was the enemy's state. If the producer wants us to believe the last part of him riding back is real, I just think the final battle was out of place and didn't make any logical sense. I watched the special. It was filmed very recently.

I also don't recall when Wen Ji said your commander is dead and they dropped their weapons. After XH killed King Chen, they moved to a voice over of YSJ announcing the treason in court and XFF talking about the aftermath.

why would they surrender when there's so many of them and only one of him? this is a great opportunity for someone from Dai to step up and kill an important person from an enemy state and get rewarded. Even if he killed the commander, there's always a second in command etc. There are military ranks. He literally got back up, put the pendant in his mouth to prepare himself to fight as more enemies came on horseback. They came charging with their weapons, they never dropped it. He looks up at the sky and the scene changes to XFF.

I agree the last 15 minutes was completely useless. What purpose did killing Wen Ji and Lu Ji serve? It did nothing for the plot since the story was already over. They could've showed an epic battle scene and had every one surviving. Then maybe it'd be more believable for viewers to see it's a happy ending when he rode back on the horse. I know the producer said it's supposed to be a HE, but I guess I'm supposed to suspend belief that XH, the last one standing with a ton of injuries, somehow survived a whole army with a ton of archers 😔.

Also the Long Wu army thing was crazy to me. Just because some rando picked up a fish token, you listen to them even if they’re essentially telling you to commit treason and letting rebel forces through the gate? SYR is just a scholar. The army lieutenant could’ve easily taken him. That whole part didn’t make sense to me at all

I honestly was very confused who that guy they were fighting on the battlefield was. I kept squinting and trying to see if I recognize him . Also Lu Ji dying by all those arrows and the Duke surviving doesn’t make sense. The logical thing for any army to do is just to keep shooting. if we’re arguing that it’s normal for people to die in war. The whole scene felt unnecessary.

It also did feel very rushed to me. I wish they spent more time on the Duke’s back story. His little chat with grandpa resolved all their misunderstandings so quickly and all just because XFF put them in a room together. I actually felt like it could’ve ended after the rebellion. to me, it was always about XFF’s revenge and that ended after SYR jumped. I still enjoyed the drama but definitely loved the first 35 episodes more.

Did they have to kill them both off 😭😭😭? Can’t they leave Xiao Heng (and me) one of them?

Are you talking about Fan Xian from Joy Of Life? Because I was pretty upset by Teng Zijing’s death in season 1. I haven’t seen season 2 yet.

I did. But it didn’t bring back my Wen Ji and Lu Ji 😭😭😭

I’m just going to pretend the last 10-15 mins of episode 40 didn’t happen.

I was just saying I would riot yesterday if this happens. Is it necessary to kill them both?! 😭

you think so? I'm still holding out hope that it's just a fake out.... 😭😭😭

I will riot and knock down at least a point of my rating if any of my baby sidekicks die. Wen Ji and Lu Ji must survive 😭😭

I saw some of the stills of XH on the battlefield... and I thought to myself....

I didn't realize she tagged BWS and LSH 🤣 Way to give them FOMO.

lol. I had assumed that wouldn't work in real life. My other thought was just that they mistreated her so bad, and her health was so bad, that the baby miscarried. Although with her personality, I don't think she'd want babies with the r*pist either. I was just curious if they explicitly said it and I just missed it. Thanks for responding!

Do we know if she intentionally got rid of the babies? I know it shows her going into the pond, but I'm just curious how she would have access to any medication to abort the baby when she was living amongst the animals. I guess the ruler there could've forced her to have an abortion...

The ones I really hate are when the lead hears someone calling their name, presumably the other lead, and when they turn around the drama ends before we can even see who definitively called their name!