At least Money Heist has remake tag. I've spotted at least 2-3 "remakes" that pretend to be original. There's Bourne Identity rip-off, there's Ghost In a Shell rip-off, there's even freakin The Postman rip-off lmao (I guess they thought no one would remember that one).
I'm often left dumbstruck by the amount of positive reviews this show has and I thought I'd never find someone…
Wait, this drama got positive reviews past episodes with kids? Crazy! You have my sympathy for watching to the end. But yes, the kids were good and they had a sensible part of the story. Nonsense started with K drama's favorite trop - amnesia. A character believed to be dead is alive (oof ) but she lost her memories (double oof.) but then meets her childhood sweetheart again and feels strangely drawn to him (triple oof). You don't have to watch a drama to know where amnesia trope is going.
Thanks for your feedback, I found it to be very interesting to read from someone who looked at the characters…
well, using old man's terminal illness to save himself makes sense. the old man should have offered to go down since he was going to die anyway. I really can't take that one against GH especially since he picked the old man as his partner thinking that he would have been killed if nobody chose him. But yes it's a morally grey thing that makes him at least a flawed hero. Being a bad dad still doesn't make one a not-hero cause heroes can be imperfect.
Thanks for your feedback, I found it to be very interesting to read from someone who looked at the characters…
Basically, the difference between hero and anti-hero is how they do heroic stuff. Not much about what they are like as people. Snape (no matter whether you know him or not) is a terrible person but he did heroic things that were approved as heroic. Even one that seemed highly controversial/questionable on the surface, was revealed not to be and it was a massive sacrifice for him.
OTOH, an anti-hero achieves results for the greater good aka heroic things by questionable means. The most basic would be that a hero is never supposed to kill an unarmed villain. He would resist villain's taunting to kill him and quip something about justice, etc. Example: Bruce Wayne and Joker at the end of The Dark Knight. An anti-hero would kill an unarmed villain because he deems that getting rid of scum by all means necessary serves the greater good better.
Zombie genre is full of anti-heroes. Characters start as heroes and try to save everyone only to learn that isn't possible so they get selective. And with that you get questionable "get rid of the weak or someone who they don't know well to protect the stronger members or members they care about". They are not villains because motivation isn't malicious but they are not heroes because heroes save everyone or try too. They don't throw someone under the bus so that others can cross the street which they couldn't without a sacrifice. A hero would throw himself under the bus, an anti-hero would throw whomever he perceives as liability.
With that said, I'll revise my take on Gi Hoon. I think he remains a hero in particular because he did 2 heroic things for everyone not just himself - when he tried to stop the game first time around, and then second time. His attempt to cheat the old man was selfish but it wasn't either heroic or anti-heroic because he was saving his own skin, wasn't really for anyone else. OTOH, Sang Woo is definitely an anti-hero. He pushed that guy who wouldn't move to allow him and others to finish the game and then killed himself so that Gi Hoon could collect money (that Gi Hoon was willing to forfeit for the same of saving Sang Woo's life - what a hero!) and use that money to help his mother, etc.
But either way, no one is what we call a traditional hero - all virtue and selflessness and bravery - so debate whether they were all anti-heroes or flawed heroes, etc will rage on.
An anti-hero drama doesn't have to have a hero. Most anti-hero movies don't. It's hero movies that can have an anti-hero as a secondary lead. Think Star Wars where Luke = hero on a classic Campellian hero journey and Han = anti-hero with a redemption arc.
I don't think that KSB is prominent enough player to have any such status. The focus has always been the dichotomy between 2 best friends who had very different approach to surviving the game. She was a very distant third lead. I would say she was definitely a good person, certainly better than ML and 2nd ML but she didn't do anything particularly heroic.
In fiction, someone can be a terrible person and a hero. Example: Severus Snape. He's abusive to children, rude, arrogant, etc but he does classically heroic things - puts his life on the line for the greater good and in Harry's protection - so that even Harry called him the bravest man he ever knew. Now, while KSB entered the game for selfless reasons - to bring her mother from NK, to take her little brother from the orphanage - and selflessness is a requirement for heroism, she didn't do anything particularly heroic (example - sacrifice) in the context of the game. Snape's heroism wasn't a side plot (which KSB's selflessness for her family is), it was central to the plot. A hero is someone whose heroism is central to the plot. Don't think that was the case here but great food for thought regardless.
EDIT: I think that the closest to a hero in SG was the policeman but his journey was so removed from the main plot he didn't feel like one. But by all means, he checks the boxes: comes from the good guy side, wants to expose the secret organization that he believes is behind his brother's disappearance among many other, risks his life.
I gave a 1 star review today too for different drama so yours caught my eye immediately. I always read negative reviews cause they are more sincere than overhype. Not that I didn't overhype a couple but I know that it was overhype so I'm cautious when others do it ha ha. Great review!
😂I watch it because it's just for fun and it gives me a headache. It's something that you watch without thinking…
that's fine. it isn't for me. maybe I watched a really bad sample but ML's mugging for the camera as if 5 although he thought he was 20 but was 40 in reality made me facepalm so much I had red finger marks on my cheeks for 2 hours since. Had to put some ice on.
the twist absolutely jumped the shark. and yes, the killer is the young man who was looking for her in Joseon…
they probably will but I dropped this drama. Don't care. hate the twist too much to stick around. They had a good twist on their hands (monsters being after her cause they sensed his soul and wanted revenge on him) but ruined it with the twist of convenience that is the twins.
I don't think Hwal was the one that killed her, I think that was misdirection. It was probably Lee Joon's character
no the twin who remembered and didn't have ML's soul, definitely killed ML's family. She's the only one that Shaman's reincarnation recognized and greeted. However, her sister who didn't remember, and who is now FL, has ML's soul cause the monster in human flesh sensed it in her but not in the other twin. They were conveniently split into monster one and good one (with soul).
Lee Joon character only killed the soulless twin (hence why she couldn't reincarnate - no soul) and her mother.
The only reason they made them twins is that two souls can't be in the same body so the one who remember is the…
the twist absolutely jumped the shark. and yes, the killer is the young man who was looking for her in Joseon too. Remember that Dukshini reincarnation told Hwal about it? I mean, there's no reason to obscure Hwal's face if he did the killings. And he would never kill the mother and another girl.
OTOH, an anti-hero achieves results for the greater good aka heroic things by questionable means. The most basic would be that a hero is never supposed to kill an unarmed villain. He would resist villain's taunting to kill him and quip something about justice, etc. Example: Bruce Wayne and Joker at the end of The Dark Knight. An anti-hero would kill an unarmed villain because he deems that getting rid of scum by all means necessary serves the greater good better.
Zombie genre is full of anti-heroes. Characters start as heroes and try to save everyone only to learn that isn't possible so they get selective. And with that you get questionable "get rid of the weak or someone who they don't know well to protect the stronger members or members they care about". They are not villains because motivation isn't malicious but they are not heroes because heroes save everyone or try too. They don't throw someone under the bus so that others can cross the street which they couldn't without a sacrifice. A hero would throw himself under the bus, an anti-hero would throw whomever he perceives as liability.
With that said, I'll revise my take on Gi Hoon. I think he remains a hero in particular because he did 2 heroic things for everyone not just himself - when he tried to stop the game first time around, and then second time. His attempt to cheat the old man was selfish but it wasn't either heroic or anti-heroic because he was saving his own skin, wasn't really for anyone else. OTOH, Sang Woo is definitely an anti-hero. He pushed that guy who wouldn't move to allow him and others to finish the game and then killed himself so that Gi Hoon could collect money (that Gi Hoon was willing to forfeit for the same of saving Sang Woo's life - what a hero!) and use that money to help his mother, etc.
But either way, no one is what we call a traditional hero - all virtue and selflessness and bravery - so debate whether they were all anti-heroes or flawed heroes, etc will rage on.
I don't think that KSB is prominent enough player to have any such status. The focus has always been the dichotomy between 2 best friends who had very different approach to surviving the game. She was a very distant third lead. I would say she was definitely a good person, certainly better than ML and 2nd ML but she didn't do anything particularly heroic.
In fiction, someone can be a terrible person and a hero. Example: Severus Snape. He's abusive to children, rude, arrogant, etc but he does classically heroic things - puts his life on the line for the greater good and in Harry's protection - so that even Harry called him the bravest man he ever knew. Now, while KSB entered the game for selfless reasons - to bring her mother from NK, to take her little brother from the orphanage - and selflessness is a requirement for heroism, she didn't do anything particularly heroic (example - sacrifice) in the context of the game. Snape's heroism wasn't a side plot (which KSB's selflessness for her family is), it was central to the plot. A hero is someone whose heroism is central to the plot. Don't think that was the case here but great food for thought regardless.
EDIT: I think that the closest to a hero in SG was the policeman but his journey was so removed from the main plot he didn't feel like one. But by all means, he checks the boxes: comes from the good guy side, wants to expose the secret organization that he believes is behind his brother's disappearance among many other, risks his life.
Lee Joon character only killed the soulless twin (hence why she couldn't reincarnate - no soul) and her mother.