loremar

You are oversimplifying the problem. You make it sound like she would think "Oh, it's been 2 years and I still don't love him. I guess I'll just divorce him. No problem". Huge problem. This is Korea were talking about. Even men who aren't necessarily rich would think twice about marrying her let alone rich chaebols who are looking for the perfect woman who is beautiful, intelligent, and well-mannered. And she just tarnished herself by getting divorced. On the other hand, the other person is a man, rich, handsome, smart, and well-mannered. In a patriarchal society like Korea, he has all the privilege to get divorced as many times as he wants, and marry as many times as he wants. Beautiful women are going to fall in line to marry him.

Given in her situation, it would totally make sense for her to give it another few more years. It's not outlandish to believe you can fall in love to a person after several years. If you can observe, this is actually the norm, rather than the exception.

Also I don't agree that the burden should be placed on her to give up on the relationship. She would be held responsible for breaking up their relationship and not giving him enough time as they agreed. The burden should be placed on the man to give up since the woman has a lot to lose. And thus allow her to be rightfully compensated for him breaking their deal. Perhaps he could give her a portion of his stocks as compensation for breaking his promise about giving her lasting wealth.

If we can't blame her for not giving up, should we blame her for choosing to marry him. Thank carefully. Rich man, handsome, well mannered, good sense of humor. Any genius statistician would think her choice is pretty right on target. Even I as an audience, was convinced she would totally fall for him. Yet we can't blame people for their lack of foresight. People are already gambling when they marry for love. Should we really blame them for it.

I also don't agree about her being overly ambitious for the wrong things. What she is doing is basically the same as anyone who is job hunting, looking for that dream job where her credentials just fall short but hoping someone will see her potential and give her a chance. What she's doing is not wrong and she has every right to do so. When you think about it, it's not really that far off from reality. Many beautiful celebrities, popular or not, do end up marrying a rich guy. And I assume, many of them don't necessarily love their husband. Yet this people, live life happily. So I can definitely say that what she's thinking is not really that crazy.

Also, I don't buy it when this guy is victimized. I have as much pity for him just as much as I have pity for a man who can't find her wife attractive, hence, the cheating. Her not loving him is irrelevant. It's not a justification for him to cheat. If I follow that logic, then it would be okay to have sex with another woman if it does not involve love. Sex is closely associated with the relationship and hence even if people have relationships for love, one can not have sex with another person. This is the same case with the people in this drama. They built a relationship based on wealth. But love is closely tied to it. Therefore him cheating for love was wrong.

You have to put yourself in her shoes. What if you are a person who does not believe in love and is seeking wealth because you have none in your life. And then this person comes to you, promising you his wealth. All he ask is your time and he's going to convince you about love. Okay nice deal. So you given him your nine years. You found out he is cheating. He is seeking love somewhere else. You knew that he was only willing to give you his wealth because he loves you. But you were convinced that he loves you forever no matter what because that's what he promised you. You should also remember that he promised he was going to make you fall in love for him. And he sounds so convincing. But now it seems you are going to lose your wealth soon. Now how do you feel? All that talk about love was nonsense after all. You knew love was a dead end. You were right after all. But you were so gullible.

What were you doing for nine years? You could have married a wife-beater or a womanizer and stayed rich forever. Worst case, it could have been twenty years. You never knew he was cheating. And now all that wealth is gone. Imagine that.

This drama has gotten boring though. I wish they put out some mind twisting plot twists soon. But I guess that's too much to expect from MBC dramas. Perhaps the baby in the picture is Yeonsu who happens to be a hermaphrodite. But because she grow up looking like a girl, they have to switch her with a boy from orphanage. They needed someone to take over the company. That's why they need it to be a boy.

For a drama about assassins, they spent so much on everything except for the action. Fight scenes are like 5-10 seconds long. slash, slash, slash, stab, stab. Both gets hurt. Okay we're done. So many duels I have anticipated but fell short. The longest duel were from minor characters, Wan Xiang and her mother. Everything else is short. As short as Gong Zi's ****. They even have martial arts experts but never bother to show their skills. I also got hyped over the main character possibly climbing the ranks with her skills. The premise is you gain more skills as you kill more people. But since the main character does not want to kill, she had to get stronger through other means. There was so much potential on that side of the story but this drama failed to show her progression for me. Rather than showing her skills on the screen, we're suppose to assume that she got stronger because they said so. Cha lou seems to find her as a threat based from nothing. Not ever once, Wan Mei showed any signs of being a threat. Yue Yi on the other hand, was a bad ass. She deserved her rank as a Juesha. On the other hand, I fail to see how Wan Mei was chief material. I would have loved to see Wan Mei defending herself from other assassins. That would have nicely shown her progression.

There were some wars in this drama. But people barely notice it because they replaced everything with drawings. Sometimes these drawings even replace action scenes.

On romance on the other hand, the main couple spent less time in the screen. Wan Mei spent most time with the second lead. The second lead wins, because he successfully had the main lead killed. People say it's open ended. I even find that more upsetting. Being made to believe that he's alive when there's 50-50 chance he's dead. I mean as far as Chinese movies and dramas go, it's better to think he's dead because there's 99% chance he's dead.

This drama had potential to have good balance between romance, action, and politics. But most of it is just nonsense talk. People like it because of the visual appeal. Old dramas could use some modern visual attractions. But these new dramas also could use some good dynamics like in the old dramas. Dialogue wise or Action wise.

TLDR. I expect plenty of actions because assassins. No actions. Also tragedy.

Of course my predictions are wrong. I'm still confused because the secretary did kept the dashcam video. That doesn't make sense, now it's revealed he is doing all these things because he is his son. It would have been fun if Yeon Su is Minhyuk's mother's daughter but I don't think any writer would be bold enough to put incest in daily dramas. Welp so much for my wild imagination.

The same can be said about people longing for money too, and many other things like sex, prestige, justice, revenge, etc. You can't single out emotion as something that should be placed above all other things as if it de facto justifies any form of wrongdoings. The "I just can't help myself" is no excuse.

It is undeniable that love is given so much special treatment. If you replace love with something else in their situation, it's easy to see how the guy was wrong. For example, If I tell you I'm poor and I can't give you any money and you told me it's okay I'm good at making money. And I accepted you because we both love each other. And then years later, you pestered me about money and told me I'm useless. Finally you cheated on me for some rich guy. How should I feel? I understand you really like money but cheating is unacceptable. We could have both agreed to accept our circumstances and moved on. Now replace money and love and it's the same situation.

I can definitely tell there is an over-inflation with love. In this analogy, if it were a society that over-inflates the importance of wealth, I would have been blamed and ridiculed for not seeing the importance of money and ignoring your needs.

I do agree about her sociopathic tendencies. In fact, she was indeed kinda sociopathic. But I don't agree the superficial part. On a different perspective, people who are solely motivated by love could be superficial. For example, in an alternate world where stories about people who gain knowledge through hardships are extremely romanticized in media, may see people who do nothing but engange themselves in pleasures of love as being superficial. Thus when one chooses love over knowledge, that person would be looked down.

It's really up to people what they find as happiness. What I can't agree is the manner of getting it. Especially in their case. Despite Seol Ah's sociopathy, she somehow got what she wanted in the fair way. On one hand, Jin U cheated her wife. Although, it would have went well if Jin U did made her fall in love. But the cheating was uncalled for. I guess I can at least agree that Seol Ah deserved her karma.

Such beautiful drama ruined by a cheater

And then he cheated. bastard

I'm persistent about this because it's dangerous to put blame on people who don't deserve to be blamed. It was a marriage where two people agreed not to oblige the woman to return love. And yet you keep insisting that she's done wrong for not doing something they've agreed to not expect her to do. You're also victimizing a person who does not deserve to be victimized. If he failed on the part of getting her fall in love, he should man up and move on and find someone who could return his love. He should have done the right thing by not cheat behind her back and asked for a divorce. Stop blaming the woman for something she couldn't be forced to do.

I have also watched "I Have a Lover" and I don't believe his excuse. The thing he did at the elevator was never about his daughter. People accepted his excuse because they always keep forgetting things.

You are over-inflating the value of love. If It was anything being promised for free, you wouldn't think it would be selfish to expect the promise to be kept. But because he promised "love" then how dare of her for feeling so entitled, right? It's not even free. She offered her marriage life to him. He gets to marry the person he wants to marry.

Also she married him on the premise that he will make her fall in love. She was persuaded and she was convinced. And yet how dare of her for not falling in love? Right?

I just want to add to my point above because it seems like you want to skid away with the point based on the fact that he did not dump her therefore he is not wrong and she should be happy she has her wealth. Like I said it was not just about the money, he promised her his love. That was his selling point from the get go. The fact that he got himself involved with another woman was a cue for her to say goodbye to her wealth. That is why his love was a necessary part of the deal. Whether he might not dump her in the future or not is totally moot. He broke his promises. And she has to live with a fact that she might lose her wealth in the future. Therefore he is wrong.

"You being mad at cheaters for being cheaters doesn't change any of that." His situation is no different from other cheaters. And I have every right to be mad because it's wrong to hurt people. Them cheaters and this cheater. His situation is practically the same situation every cheaters have. They couldn't get the sex they want, he couldn't get the love he wants. And then they go off justifying it because their reason - "They can't help themselves". It's all the same. The mere fact that she can't love him by no way justifies what he is doing. Their inconveniences are no justification to whatever damage they made.

She definitely wasted 9 years. She was made to believe, she was going to be rich for the rest of her life. She was promised stability. That was all haux. It lasted only 9 years. Replace money with love in this situation. Wouldn't you be upset if you were promised to be loved for eternity and yet it only lasted 9 years when this whole time you have always been faithful?

"You keep skipping over the fact that she wanted to stay married to him." No I did not skip over the fact that she wanted to stay married to him. People can scroll through our conversation and can tell that what you are saying is a lie.

"She wasn't dumped. The circumstance gave her mother in law fuel to end their marriage. Don't change the story to make a point." Of course in reality she wasn't being dumped. I'm trying to make a point that what you said about her getting scared of being dumped (or in you own words, being "replaced") is unacceptable because you think he's cheating is justified - is wrong. I'm saying, to say "You have no right to dump me" in her situation is correct. Setting aside her thoughts, what he is doing is wrong. He's reassured/promised the woman of his loyalty and devotion and yet his doing exactly the opposite. I mean if the guy has another woman, and he promised you loyalty would you believe him? He wouldn't do something like that in the past, he shouldn't be doing it now. The fact that she got scared at his cheating proves she would not have married him. She practically got scammed into marrying him.

I'm obliged to teach you morality because I am concerned with the people who would be potentially hurt by you. Even if the other person is a fool for trusting you, that does not justify such actions. That is like scamming people and then blaming them for being gullible. The right thing to do in such situation is to explain to the other person that you intend to break your deal and you are willing to pay any damages you have caused. There is no excuse for "I just can't help myself. It's your fault for trusting me"

No, none of the said arguments are meant to like her. I only said I admired her for that one particular thing. I am not persuading you to like her. If that is how you get from what I said, then you just missed my entire point. It's all meant as a response at how you think little about his cheating. Your main reason why it's hard for you to blame him is like you said, he saw an opportunity to get attention from someone who loved him and he took it. If you think that is good enough reason for cheaters, then god forbid that time comes when you meet a cheater who cheats on you because his reason is you couldn't forcibly do something you already said you can't do in the beginning. You might will swallow everything you just said because this person who you wasted your 9 years on just dumped you for such unacceptable reason.

The woman's side was pretty much understandable. She does not want love, she wanted money. There are people like that in the world. We can't judge them because they don't want love. And this woman took it on herself to tell you that right in the beginning. This woman said she'll stay with you for several years, entrusting herself to you. And she did. She did everything what you two have agreed together in the beginning. She sticks with her word. She's an adult. Regrettably, this woman couldn't forcibly extract love out of herself. And what did you do? Throw her away? You did not stick with your word. Does she not have the right to be angry at you? Why not? Because she's a cold btch? I mean you're a freaking adult. Act like one.

She's definitely has the right to expect love and devotion from him. He assured her of that in the beginning. I paid a lot of attention to their conversation and it clearly went with "I'm going to be a devoted husband", "But what would you do if I don't love you. I only need your money. I don't care about love", "That will never happen". It was his responsibility for himself to make sure she falls in love for him. It was never her responsibility. It's wrong to expect her of that. His expectations definitely came from his hubris. He thought so highly of himself.

If the whole thing went with her, meeting and marrying a rich man and expects that the rich man would be devoted to her beauty, then it would have been her hubris that went wrong. But she carefully approached this issue and asked the man for his devotion. The whole conversation was written by the writer in a way that no holes was left to morally implicate the woman. In fact, she was the one who was deceived. She believed all of it and it never happened. He makes promises and falls short in the end just like your everyday politician. I can't blame her for believing him. He claimed that every woman he met, has gotten by him right on his palm. He's the scammer. It's funny because he's doing this one month thing. This time, no promises. And she does not believe that he has any chances.

The lies was directed towards his mom. None of it was intended to manipulate the guy. The thing with CheongAh was never a factor to his decision. He was going to marry her regardless of any circumstances. You can't say she scammed him or manipulated him in any way. He definitely knows what he was going into but it's just that his expectations were off.

With all these arguments, it may sound like he got the short end of the stick in their deal. No he's not. He is very lucky. He gets to marry the woman who's beauty got him falling head over heels. He is lucky that the woman wants money. And he is lucky that it happens that he has tons of it. He could have been luckier if this beautiful woman fell in love with him. But she doesn't have to because he's already so lucky. I would have been grateful if I were him.

I also don't like her at the beginning. But it was when she messed with Cheong Ah. It was just a short time because they made up quickly. I never hated her for being so pragmatic. In fact, I admired her for being so indifferent about love because it made her unique.

How is cheating not annoying? If he is not happy with his wife, he should have filed a divorce before getting into another relationship. Cheating is never not annoying. It's evil. Please don't do something like this, whatever the reason is. End the relationship before getting another one.

There is no manipulation from her. That is not what happened in the drama. She clearly said she doesn't believe in love and will never fall for him. Her intentions are presented to him, crystal clear. What they have was a business deal. She gets money, he gets a beautiful wife. It was all his delusions and machismo and hubris that he believes can get more from their deal. The guy insisted that she will surely fall in love with him, remember? But she said "No, don't think so". And he smiled. The delusional fool. Well, he failed, so he gets to cheat? Bohoo. What a loser.

She may not love him and it may all be about the money. It may be just a business deal. but she was betrayed. All the money and luxury she was promised of, he was going to break the deal because he couldn't get more from it. Love, money, sex, whatever. This is the point where you stop putting love above all things. Betrayal is betrayal. Have you ever been betrayed? Do you know the feeling?

She is Non.

It's 2020. Every year I am going to make a post while I wait for the next subbed episode.

They're situation now got reversed. That's funny. Except, Dae Goo's wife and Juri's brother are against the divorce.

It looks like the mother in law have good intentions. I got really disappointed for a moment there, acting like she owns her. The sister in law though.

I have eliminated that possibility based on the fact that the Secretary kept the black box video of the car accident in case Min Hyuk's mother double crosses him. In the drama world, loyal secretaries are not something that's suprising. In fact, this one is odd, since he kept a stabbing knife in his pocket. But it does seem like his relationship with his father is suspicious. Also the father doesn't seem to be the kind of person who cheats his wife. Min Hyuk and Jae Hyuk are also about the same age. Either the first wife died very early or Min Hyuk's mother brought him home during their marriage. But both their first names are Hyuk's indicating they are likely biological siblings. But if Min Hyuk's mother did indeed brought him home, that is also suspicious, since she's the type of person who would abandon her child for ambitions. My drama intuition also tells me Yeonsu and MinHyuk's mother will be revealed as biologically related. They're both ambitious and lacking conscience, finding easy to kill people. Minhyuk's mother was also poor. It's likely she's done the same thing what Yeonsu did. Their characters are too coincidentally similar, It's hard for me not to suspect given also that in the dramaworld everyone is always closely linked in some mysterious ways.