monstersnroses

Its extortion.

tytytysm! <3

I understand your concern, and KSH is caught up in something bigger than himself right now, namely that this cannot stand as an industry practice. We need to rise up and send a clear message, not to him. To the people who are permissive of the attitudes that lead to child and woman victimization in S Korea, and in the entertainment industry at large. In that sense, I would not want to see KSH off himself. i would like to see the truth to come out in all it's detail, for him to face justice in a court of law, and for him to face meaningful and significant monetary penalties for what he has done.

This MAY go too far, as far as bullying a person who has not been convicted of anything, into doing something drastic. And if it did, I would not relish that, and I do not want that. But that's out of yours and my hands.

What I can do, personally, is be a part of the backlash the industry should face for letting things get to this point as far as child/female/actor exploitation. They need to face social pressure, monetary pressure, and cultural pressure to change. This is how that is taking shape.

Without further details, on it's face, KSH is very clearly guilty of enough that he's fair game. He's the most famous thing in Korea, and he should not be allowed to be peddled as the icon of K-culture, it sends the wrong message.

Like I said earlier in the thread, you can't tone police a bar brawl. That's admirably idealistic, but nature is taking it's course now.

This chick is a good fashion designer, but she works in a sweatshop style factory with a sewing machine. She meets ML who gives her a shot at actual designing, and as they achieve success, they grow closer. But there is always something in the way of them, iirc it was like an emotional/pshycological trauma or blockage on the part of the ML. He's a feisty fiery guy, very spontaneous, and emotionally repressed. In the end he gets shot by thugs, and dies in his own swimming pool wearing a leapord print fur coat.

The ending was very 'What Happened in Bali'. The ratings are low because the acting was mediocre, the angst was too high considering the show's logic for things and people was flimsy and makjang. And the ending was such a bummer cop out. I'm not sure if ML and FL even have a single kiss scene in that one.

Nobody appreciated that shit.

Only ones I would have a hard time with if ever on that list of suspected creeps: Zo In Sung, In Seo Guk, Lee Joon Ki. Please god, I hope they're clean.

And another: You are considering investing 100 dollars in a company, when you begin to hear rumors of shady business dealings they do, but those rumors - WHILE THERE IS AN ABUNDANCE OF CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE -have not been proven in a court of law. Do you invest your money in that company?

Another one closer in equivalence. You have a best girlfriend who wants to date a man she's never met. But you have met him, and met many people who know him well. 3 girls who have dated him in the past claim he attempted to strangle them to death during a fight, but none of them has any proof. Other people who know him do not have anything to say that would vouch for his character at all. In fact, some of them question his character openly.

Do you warn your bestie against dating him, or not?

Not false equivalence. The key here is that the principle of 'innocent until proven guilty' applies to legal accusations, but that doesn’t mean you have to ignore behavior that could be potentially dangerous in real life. Alllll this is about making sure KSH never has the chance to victimize someone else.

I think youre misunderstanding that I don't give a shit one way or the other about KSH. I care about protecting children from being victimized.

Want to try one that's even closer in equivalence? Let's say this was the year 1995. Would you let Jimmy Saville babysit your kids? After all, he's innocent until proven guilty. There's no immediate threat, no need for split second decisions. It's just you deciding whether to make a judgement on common sense, or guilt in the eyes of the law.

REAL LIFE IS NOT COURT.

Dude!!! I had this weird feeling about him for years like he gives me that asshole vibe. Also overrated and not hot.

Or Biden sexually assaulting Tara Reid. Or Bill Clinton r*ping Juanita Broderick, and having a half-black lovechild who he will not acknowledge. Or Hillary Clinton bragging on tape about getting a child r*pist off scott free. Or JFK high on methamphetamines fucking everything in sight, despite being married.

It's also true that he did not show even a flicker of sympathy or emotion about it. Real OR faked. That is a blatant display of narcissism, which he was completely unaware of, because he's a narcissist.

Even Jim Carrey.

who has ever found out their ex has died, and continued to party without so much as a moment of reflection.

Lemme ask you, if a very imposing and physically large man, with dirty unkepmt hair, track marks on his arms, infected sores on his face, who smells like a dumpster, has his feet wrapped in plastic bags, red eyes and dilated pupils, and he is holding a knife in his hand and talking agitatedly to himself........ if such a man is walking toward you on a city street while you have your kids in tow........ do you move away from him? I mean, he's innocent until proven guilty right?

RL is not court. Just ask any cop, security guard, or professional bodyguard.

Fortunately I don't have that burden because she was never even on my radar til THIS scandal broke, Don Quixote.

He said that shit?!?!?!? I'm compiling a list of sources for all this crap, I would love a source for that if anyone has it so I can archive it.

yes

America is divided 50-50 on the current prez, he has a 54% approval rating (way higher than biden's 30% and higher than any prez in decades). Independent (that means no political affiliation) voters are breaking about 25% democrat and 75% republican atm, and surprisingly enough, the republican politicians are the ones who tend to get outraged at issues like ped0/hebephilia. Democrat politicians have tendencies to believe "love is love", and rewrite laws to make them more lax regarding ped0s. Half my family is pro-trump, and half is anti-trump. We get along fine, we love eachother, and we all believe child exploitation is very very wrong. Don't drag politics into this for the love of god.

You have to understand, that every election we have is just a choice between a douche or a turd-sandwich. EVERY politician is either a douche or a turd sandwich. They're all on the take. Americans aren't defined by their vote, because it's always trying to chose the lesser evil. Some people thought kamala was the lesser evil, some people thought trump was. But everyday americans tend to have consistent values with eachother, including a pretty hardline stance on ped0s. It's the media and the politicians that make us look divided and schizo.

My sister and mother both voted for Orange Man, and I love them very much, they are not dumb, and they don't support disgusting shit like ped0ism.

TYSM that's awesome that someone put that together.

They don't make their decisions based on morals, they make decisions based on profits. If you spend 100 bucks on a watch, then the watch breaks.... it's still better to try to sell it for 20 bucks than to just throw it away, to at least recoup some of your losses. They might air that episode, but they know it will tank, and they won't be inviting him back ever again, would be my guess.