First Frost would have cruised above 9.1 without breaking a sweat if not for such pathetic people..
Go ahead and open it. It's public, i'm just some rando like everyone else. Why call people pathetic just because they don't agree with you about a show you liked? What does it matter to you what other people thought of it. All that should matter to you is what YOU thought of it. I don't get it.
First Frost would have cruised above 9.1 without breaking a sweat if not for such pathetic people..
You don't think maybe it's equally pathetic to care that much about 0.2 points difference on an MDL page for a show you like to the point where you'd insult people personally over it? Justwhy.
https://kisskh.at/profile/Dreamydramas/reviews/437472Why are people like this?This comes from a person who…
I wonder the same thing about people who get up in someone else's business just because they have a different opinion of a drama than you. I never have understood why someone else's opinion of a show should bother you enough that you'd call them out and try to put them through a struggle session over it. I haven't gotten past ep 3 yet, so i don't know if I like this drama or not, but this attitude on MDL that some crazed fans get for certain shows is such a turnoff.... and frankly it immediately makes me suspicious that a show isn't all that when the fans are mean and crazed and up in other people's faces over what they percieve as wrongthink.
i saw it differently. i think their chemistry was beautiful and organic
Best chemistry imo: My Fated Boy Falling Into You ELOD Amidst a Snowstorm of Love Her Private Life Que Sera Sera SOKP TTEOM LLTG Lesson in Love The Crush Embrace In The Dark Night My Supervisor Husband My Lethal Man CRAZY love Love To Hate You
> Doesn't like drama because toxic ML> Makes toxic af comment about itππππππ How awesome. Projection…
From Psychology Today's website:
"Projection is the process of displacing oneβs feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projectionβattributing oneβs own unacceptable urges to another. For example, if someone continuously bullies and ridicules a peer, the bully might be projecting his own struggle with self-esteem onto the other person.
"Unconscious discomfort can lead people to attribute unacceptable feelings or impulses to someone else to avoid confronting them. Projection allows the difficult trait to be addressed without the individual fully recognizing it in themselves.
"An example of projection would be the following: A married man who is attracted to a female coworker, but rather than admit this to himself, he might accuse her of flirting with him."
See, what I'm pointing out is that you're calling XW toxic, but actually you are displaying toxic behavior. So you can see it in XW, but you have no self-awareness of likewise being toxic yourself.
> lol you have no clue what projection is your vaguely describing hypocrisy but that doesn't even apply stay in high school kid
What's awesome about that comment, is you actually demonstrated projection AGAIN, while arguing that I don't know what it is! Projection IS a form of hypocrisy. So, if you want to also consider your behavior hypocritical, I have no problem with that at all.
Like I was saying, please go ahead and try to explain why my username is projection. Oh, that's right you can't, because it's not.
> Doesn't like drama because toxic ML> Makes toxic af comment about itππππππ How awesome. Projection…
>LMAO again "monstersandroses"
Because facepalming once wasn't enough for you....
Let me help you out. "Projection" is when you make an observation about the world around you, that really is about yourself.
You called ML toxic, but that was funny because then you proceeded to share your shitty take of SoKP fans and call them pathetic. Which is toxic. So that was 'projection'.
I made my username 'mosntersnroses'. Pray tell, o clever one, where that involves an observation about my outside world that is actually about myself. I'll wait.
I have a lifetime restraining order against my ex, and am still in hiding to this day because of his abuse. I…
What worked for your mother, never worked for me. I also managed to publicly shame my ex, and all that you get is a temporary reprive. It stops nothing, and in my situation it only made it worse later on.
You said: "Don't put your words in my mouth."
Where did I do that?
It's not easy to have someone roll up on you and invalidate your personal experiences, unsolicited. But I am doing my best to be kind and respectful of you while also explaining where I'm coming from, instead of just taking offense. So I find it disheartening that you're ready to say something so caustic when I'm trying to just be decent to you and rational about what I'm saying.
If something I said in there was me putting words in your mouth to you, I'm sorry I caused you to feel that way. I'm just trying to justify why my POV is valid in a way that's respectful and reasonable.
Sometimes showing no fear will get you hurt worse. And I know that firsthand. If you have another opinion on it, I'm not trying to change that or challenge that. All I'm doing, is showing that my POV is valid. It would be so much easier if you could say "I see things differently" instead of coming at me with "I cannot let you state something like that." I can respect different opinions, but I don't like it when someone is telling me that I can't have my own valid opinion as well, especially after what I've been through.
Youre like "these are state resources and testimonies that are trustworthy" and that's fine. But no one can take away what I know based on what I went through.
The idea that abusers are afraid of public opinion and the law so the main protection is to not be alone, only works if you're not alone. Which is the reason why they do everything they can to make sure you're as isolated and discredited as possible. It's good advice to not be alone, but it's often just not very feasible.
You wrote : "The FL is shown as defiant and unafraid in the face of her abuser's beatings. This is just unrealistic.…
I have a lifetime restraining order against my ex, and am still in hiding to this day because of his abuse. I know what it's like firsthand. If someone in an abusive relationship tries to stand up to their abuser **without having a solid escape plan set out for themselves**, they are putting their lives on the line.
I remember once after about 5 years of living with an abusive person, I had had enough, and when he came at me in the kitchen while I was doing dishes, I hit him in the ear with a heavy frying pan. He stopped being abusive toward me for about a month or two after that. And then it changed, and he started threatening me with guns... something he'd never done in all the 5 years previous. Standing up for myself within the relationship like that, for me, backfired spectacularly. Because you CANT stand up for yourself when you are IN the relationship. The only way out, and the only way to really stand up for yourself, is to leave, and there is no other way.
If raising a hand as if they were about to hit you scares you, then that's what they do. If it doesn't scare you, then they escalate until something finally does scare you.
You say: "I cannot let you state something like that. Victims who flatter abuser's ego like that are sure to end up either dead or disabled."
You are wrong. Do you know who ends up dead or disabled? Women who stay. Period. If standing up to that person makes you feel like you have some measure of control, that's just as dangerous because it gives you the false sense that you DO have any control within the relationship when you DONT. There is only ONE way to make it out alive, and that's to GET OUT. There is no other solution.
You said: ". This is not because majority of tropey dramas display FL who are weak and dumb female leads and who fall victim of abusers behave displaying fear in the face of aggresion..."
I hope you're not saying that women who find themselves trapped in an abusive relationship are weak and dumb...?
and then you said " that it is the solution for a human being to stay, and take the beating flattering the agressor's ego by showing fear is the best idea."
I hope you don't think that women stay with abusers because they think the best solution is to stay. It's because they become trapped before they realize what's happened to them, and then they CAN'T get out. And until you CAN get out, you have to figure out how to survive.
You say "In what world if you want to stop violence, you have to act afraid ?..." And then you equate it to a threatening dog.
I read a story in the Daily Mail a few weeks ago, about a lady who literally had her face bitten off by a dog she'd owned for 10 years, because she knew it didn't like to be approached when it was sleeping, and one night she came home and tried to give it a hug when it was sleeping on her bed. She showed no fear, and then one day she got her face bitten off for it.
I don't know about other survivors of domestic abuse, but for me... the main reason I ended up in that situation to begin with is because I wasn't as afraid of him as I should have been at the very outset of ever meeting him. I didn't have *enough* fear.
Sometimes fear is what keeps you alive, it's a survival response that's deeply ingrained in our instincts for a reason. Domestic violence shelters exist for a reason, and that reason is that some abusers are legit people to be afraid of. It's not a matter of just "not showing fear", that doesn't work. So there's a time and a place for showing fear. It's more nuanced than just to say that not acting afraid will always deter violence.
For instance, there are some animals where if you play dead, you make it worse. And there are animals where if you play dead, you increase your chances of survival. It just depends on the situation. Well if the situation is that you're stuck in a living arrangement with someone who you are physically smaller than and can't overpower at any given moment, then acting like you have no awareness of that at all can be dangerous.
Sometimes being brave is awesome and it will help you to survive, yes. But sometimes it's not the best approach. Sigfried and Roy had no fear of Manticore and just look at what happened there.
Why are people like this?
My Fated Boy
Falling Into You
ELOD
Amidst a Snowstorm of Love
Her Private Life
Que Sera Sera
SOKP
TTEOM
LLTG
Lesson in Love
The Crush
Embrace In The Dark Night
My Supervisor Husband
My Lethal Man
CRAZY love
Love To Hate You
You: Nuh-uh
But please do go on about who is making a fool of themselves....
"Projection is the process of displacing oneβs feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projectionβattributing oneβs own unacceptable urges to another. For example, if someone continuously bullies and ridicules a peer, the bully might be projecting his own struggle with self-esteem onto the other person.
"Unconscious discomfort can lead people to attribute unacceptable feelings or impulses to someone else to avoid confronting them. Projection allows the difficult trait to be addressed without the individual fully recognizing it in themselves.
"An example of projection would be the following: A married man who is attracted to a female coworker, but rather than admit this to himself, he might accuse her of flirting with him."
Source: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/projection
See, what I'm pointing out is that you're calling XW toxic, but actually you are displaying toxic behavior. So you can see it in XW, but you have no self-awareness of likewise being toxic yourself.
> lol you have no clue what projection is your vaguely describing hypocrisy but that doesn't even apply stay in high school kid
What's awesome about that comment, is you actually demonstrated projection AGAIN, while arguing that I don't know what it is! Projection IS a form of hypocrisy. So, if you want to also consider your behavior hypocritical, I have no problem with that at all.
Like I was saying, please go ahead and try to explain why my username is projection. Oh, that's right you can't, because it's not.
You're fun.
Because facepalming once wasn't enough for you....
Let me help you out. "Projection" is when you make an observation about the world around you, that really is about yourself.
You called ML toxic, but that was funny because then you proceeded to share your shitty take of SoKP fans and call them pathetic. Which is toxic. So that was 'projection'.
I made my username 'mosntersnroses'. Pray tell, o clever one, where that involves an observation about my outside world that is actually about myself. I'll wait.
Ah yes, the interwebs is such a strange and mysterious place... π
*sigh...*
Talk about the drama all you want. Talk about the people who liked it and get pwned.
> Makes toxic af comment about it
ππππππ How awesome. Projection is such a bitch, eh.
You said: "Don't put your words in my mouth."
Where did I do that?
It's not easy to have someone roll up on you and invalidate your personal experiences, unsolicited. But I am doing my best to be kind and respectful of you while also explaining where I'm coming from, instead of just taking offense. So I find it disheartening that you're ready to say something so caustic when I'm trying to just be decent to you and rational about what I'm saying.
If something I said in there was me putting words in your mouth to you, I'm sorry I caused you to feel that way. I'm just trying to justify why my POV is valid in a way that's respectful and reasonable.
Sometimes showing no fear will get you hurt worse. And I know that firsthand. If you have another opinion on it, I'm not trying to change that or challenge that. All I'm doing, is showing that my POV is valid. It would be so much easier if you could say "I see things differently" instead of coming at me with "I cannot let you state something like that." I can respect different opinions, but I don't like it when someone is telling me that I can't have my own valid opinion as well, especially after what I've been through.
Youre like "these are state resources and testimonies that are trustworthy" and that's fine. But no one can take away what I know based on what I went through.
The idea that abusers are afraid of public opinion and the law so the main protection is to not be alone, only works if you're not alone. Which is the reason why they do everything they can to make sure you're as isolated and discredited as possible. It's good advice to not be alone, but it's often just not very feasible.
I remember once after about 5 years of living with an abusive person, I had had enough, and when he came at me in the kitchen while I was doing dishes, I hit him in the ear with a heavy frying pan. He stopped being abusive toward me for about a month or two after that. And then it changed, and he started threatening me with guns... something he'd never done in all the 5 years previous. Standing up for myself within the relationship like that, for me, backfired spectacularly. Because you CANT stand up for yourself when you are IN the relationship. The only way out, and the only way to really stand up for yourself, is to leave, and there is no other way.
If raising a hand as if they were about to hit you scares you, then that's what they do. If it doesn't scare you, then they escalate until something finally does scare you.
You say: "I cannot let you state something like that. Victims who flatter abuser's ego like that are sure to end up either dead or disabled."
You are wrong. Do you know who ends up dead or disabled? Women who stay. Period. If standing up to that person makes you feel like you have some measure of control, that's just as dangerous because it gives you the false sense that you DO have any control within the relationship when you DONT. There is only ONE way to make it out alive, and that's to GET OUT. There is no other solution.
You said: ". This is not because majority of tropey dramas display FL who are weak and dumb female leads and who fall victim of abusers behave displaying fear in the face of aggresion..."
I hope you're not saying that women who find themselves trapped in an abusive relationship are weak and dumb...?
and then you said " that it is the solution for a human being to stay, and take the beating flattering the agressor's ego by showing fear is the best idea."
I hope you don't think that women stay with abusers because they think the best solution is to stay. It's because they become trapped before they realize what's happened to them, and then they CAN'T get out. And until you CAN get out, you have to figure out how to survive.
You say "In what world if you want to stop violence, you have to act afraid ?..." And then you equate it to a threatening dog.
I read a story in the Daily Mail a few weeks ago, about a lady who literally had her face bitten off by a dog she'd owned for 10 years, because she knew it didn't like to be approached when it was sleeping, and one night she came home and tried to give it a hug when it was sleeping on her bed. She showed no fear, and then one day she got her face bitten off for it.
I don't know about other survivors of domestic abuse, but for me... the main reason I ended up in that situation to begin with is because I wasn't as afraid of him as I should have been at the very outset of ever meeting him. I didn't have *enough* fear.
Sometimes fear is what keeps you alive, it's a survival response that's deeply ingrained in our instincts for a reason. Domestic violence shelters exist for a reason, and that reason is that some abusers are legit people to be afraid of. It's not a matter of just "not showing fear", that doesn't work. So there's a time and a place for showing fear. It's more nuanced than just to say that not acting afraid will always deter violence.
For instance, there are some animals where if you play dead, you make it worse. And there are animals where if you play dead, you increase your chances of survival. It just depends on the situation. Well if the situation is that you're stuck in a living arrangement with someone who you are physically smaller than and can't overpower at any given moment, then acting like you have no awareness of that at all can be dangerous.
Sometimes being brave is awesome and it will help you to survive, yes. But sometimes it's not the best approach. Sigfried and Roy had no fear of Manticore and just look at what happened there.