The ml is unlikable. He only wants sex. I don’t see that as love but only lust
How many episodes in are you, because he DOES fall in love with her. The asshole ML seeks redemption in later episodes. The only thing about this one that I didn't like, is that he treats her like garbage when he thinks she's a "lady of the night". But then when he finds out she's not an escort, he suddenly does a 180 and starts treating her like a little porcelain doll. I don't like it when men treat women like trash just because they aren't "pure". It's really hypocritical because men aren't held to the same standard. He has cheap sex with her, and yet he doesn't think HE is trash for it.... yet she is trash for consenting to it.
Other than that part, I am liking this drama so far.
What is going on here?Why is this... thing so popular?Did all of you make a new year's resolution to watch short…
c-drama short length with bigger comments sections are often better than the other short lengths china churns out... Like My Lethal Man, Love and Bid Farewell, Enslaved By Love, and Embrace In The Dark Night. This one started off really strong with good spice levels, an interesting and hot ML character, and a sexy/cute FL. I love that the FL in this one isn't an overactor. Sometimes the way she delivers lines feels like just a normal person caught talking on a hot mic.
When you say to yourself that you'll be caught up right around the time it ends, and then you're suddenly hurtling at ludicrous speed toward the last available episode, aaaaaaaaaaagghhhhhhh!!!!
This drama is so freakin GOOD omg! I will be giving it somewhere between 8-9.5 depending on how they bring everything together at the end.
I have to admit that Fan Yue is not my guy, I'm a red flag girl, and I'm in love with Xie Wei still from SOKP. Fan Yue starts off as a demon king, but goes soft and sweet way too fast for me, and his looks are very fey and delicate imo, it's just not my cup of tea.
BUT given all that, that kiss scene in ep 27 was really really awesome. It was tasteful (as is the norm for this genre), but it was still HOT, and it was very beautiful. The scenery and the lighting and costumes were just so gorgeous.... good job by the director and actors <3
In the first timeline, Xue Ning sneaks out dressed as a man to go to some festival. While there, she accidentally bumps into the princess, and that's how they meet. So the princess mistakes her for a guy, and develops a crush on her. When the princess later finds out Xue Ning is a girl, she gets kinda annoyed and upset about it.
In the second timeline, Xue Ning doesn't want to piss off the princess or meet her dressed as a man, so she avoids that festival and meets the princess at the palace for the first time instead to try to get off on the right foot with the princess and avoid any entanglements with the royal family.
But in the second timeline, the princess still develops a crush on Xue Ning. Whether you as the viewer view that as a legit lesbian crush, or if you see it more of as a friends 4eva crush, is up to you they purposely leave it vague and don't get too much into it. But some people watching this pick up on these undertones of like maybe the princess is romantically interested in Xue Ning?
wow! you literally described me 😩😩🤣🤣 I started this drama I think when it first appeared but then…
The good side is that SOKP fans still hanging out on this page after an entire year, are really nice people. So if you watch it and hate it, you can come here and vent, and no one will attack you like a rabid dog for just saying what you think. We might not agree, but we won't treat you like shit.
Unlike SOME MDL pages... you can feel free to come back later and discuss how much you hated it. Maybe we can even give you reccs for stuff you'll like, who knows.
it deserves a solid 8 but since this was a remake, many hated on it initially.
Granted, I am a hard grader. But for me, 8 is the threshhold where something is rewatchable. I would never rewatch this, so I couldn't give it an 8. In my ratings, a 7 or above means it was worth a watch, and was not a waste of time to watch once. So I gave this a 7 because I think it IS worth watching, I just wouldn't ever want to rewatch it.
To be fair, I think I only gave Nevertheless like a 7.5, it's not like the original was some masterpiece or anything. To me it was just slightly better than the J-version.
unfortunately Japanese dramas can be as good as they are but the ratings here are always low, I believe that people…
I think it's because of a few factors:
One, the sense of humor often doesn't translate well. For westerners, Korean humor is very very relatable. Chinese humor is harder to understand for a westerner, but once you start to get the 'Chinese vibe', you start to be able to appreciate their style of humor. But Japanese humor is so culturally different than western humor that it's not very accessible to western audiences....
Two, I hate to state the obvious, but Japanese endings are just NOT like what a westerner is geared towards. I have a book of classic Japanese fairy tales. Unlike western fairy tales, many MANY classic Japanese fairy tales dont have what westerners would consider an "ending". This dissatisfies western audiences....
Third, Japanse culture does not emphasize expressiveness the way other cultures do. So a character might keep something to themselves, and stay silent and a westerner can't understand why a character might do that in a certain instance. The characters seem less relatable.
Fourth, the type of entertainment the audience is expecting is different. Westerners and Koreans and to an extent Chinese, tell stories that have a result. They describe events, and the aftereffects of that event in explicit terms. Japanese expect their entertainment to be thought provoking. They want their entertainment to leave them with questions that are open to the imagination. Koreans and westerners don't want to be left with questions, they want to be left with answers.
So a westerner watches Japanese entertainment, and it just gets lost in cultural translation, and goes underappreciated by a large segment of international audiences. Whereas Korean entertainment is very readily accessible (for westerners), and Chinese falls somewhere kind of inbetween.
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Other than that part, I am liking this drama so far.
This drama is so freakin GOOD omg! I will be giving it somewhere between 8-9.5 depending on how they bring everything together at the end.
BUT given all that, that kiss scene in ep 27 was really really awesome. It was tasteful (as is the norm for this genre), but it was still HOT, and it was very beautiful. The scenery and the lighting and costumes were just so gorgeous.... good job by the director and actors <3
In the second timeline, Xue Ning doesn't want to piss off the princess or meet her dressed as a man, so she avoids that festival and meets the princess at the palace for the first time instead to try to get off on the right foot with the princess and avoid any entanglements with the royal family.
But in the second timeline, the princess still develops a crush on Xue Ning. Whether you as the viewer view that as a legit lesbian crush, or if you see it more of as a friends 4eva crush, is up to you they purposely leave it vague and don't get too much into it. But some people watching this pick up on these undertones of like maybe the princess is romantically interested in Xue Ning?
Unlike SOME MDL pages... you can feel free to come back later and discuss how much you hated it. Maybe we can even give you reccs for stuff you'll like, who knows.
To be fair, I think I only gave Nevertheless like a 7.5, it's not like the original was some masterpiece or anything. To me it was just slightly better than the J-version.
One, the sense of humor often doesn't translate well. For westerners, Korean humor is very very relatable. Chinese humor is harder to understand for a westerner, but once you start to get the 'Chinese vibe', you start to be able to appreciate their style of humor. But Japanese humor is so culturally different than western humor that it's not very accessible to western audiences....
Two, I hate to state the obvious, but Japanese endings are just NOT like what a westerner is geared towards. I have a book of classic Japanese fairy tales. Unlike western fairy tales, many MANY classic Japanese fairy tales dont have what westerners would consider an "ending". This dissatisfies western audiences....
Third, Japanse culture does not emphasize expressiveness the way other cultures do. So a character might keep something to themselves, and stay silent and a westerner can't understand why a character might do that in a certain instance. The characters seem less relatable.
Fourth, the type of entertainment the audience is expecting is different. Westerners and Koreans and to an extent Chinese, tell stories that have a result. They describe events, and the aftereffects of that event in explicit terms. Japanese expect their entertainment to be thought provoking. They want their entertainment to leave them with questions that are open to the imagination. Koreans and westerners don't want to be left with questions, they want to be left with answers.
So a westerner watches Japanese entertainment, and it just gets lost in cultural translation, and goes underappreciated by a large segment of international audiences. Whereas Korean entertainment is very readily accessible (for westerners), and Chinese falls somewhere kind of inbetween.