I am still debating on whether to watch it or not. The summary was not that attractive to me, but I wanted to give it a try for the ML - cause cmon, Kang Haneul - and the rating being 8+.
I was skeptical of the FL cause while I have seen her only in the Frog, I was not convinced with her acting as such. And now reading all the comments - I am doubtful again.
Given it is 10 eps, is it worth starting/watching?
OMG - with these two men - KYK & KNG - sharing the same screen space - this will such a feast to EYES, MIND AND HEART! Handsome and Talented AF! Can't Wait 🔥❤️🔥🔥
also --- why does the article date say, 2023? It got published recently and the drama is supposed to be released in 2025. WHAT THE CONFUSION!
Ep 9 - Damn this is how you do wonderful stories, use age-old formula of ex-GF in a new fresh way! Anyone wondering…
Many are wondering why the ex-girlfriend Kang Sol was introduced so briefly only to be killed off - as we understood in end of Ep 9 and by Ep 10 preview.
I personally thought it was a good angle - like they did not stretch it out and make Kang Sol a mean, conniving ex coming back to be a thorn for our main couple. She in a way is perhaps a catalyst for the love story and also more.
1) Her role in bringing the main couple close: ➥ She made Mi Ran feel jealous, then overcome it. We get to know that she is rooting for Mi Ran, and in fact her presence makes Mi Ran be a bit more bold and take action. ➥ Director Do also has feelings for Mi Ran: I mean it was obvious from the start when he gave the jacket, then followed her to the other gym in secret, then also shoved her ex at the bus stop and now running barefoot with her on the back. Just need them to seal it with a kiss, for these fools to realise that they are in love.
2) Kang Sol's second part of comeback reason: ➥ This will be more evident in coming episode. ➥ Her death would be blamed on Director Do. She was an influencer and so people will look for targets to blame her death on and given the preview looks like its falling on Director Do. ➥ Maybe the 24-Hour Club will be in danger of shutting down, but Director Do will have unwavering support from Mi Ran, bringing them closer ➥ Further, looks like Lee Roy might help out in some way; making amends to their otherwise banter/rivalry ➥ Ultimately something from Kang Sol's archive posts/or future scheduled posts will be revealed and people will realise Director Do is innocent OR Mi Ran and Director Do will clear the latter's name bringing them closer
Hence, I loved the way they used the ex-girlfriend formula in a very refreshing way. It all fits quite well, and till now we don't hate any character or so. Its all still in good fun, emotional bits, and hopefully NEVER A SAD ENDING!
why did they kill off kang sol randomly wtf.... was it necessary after giving us such a good ex comeback resolution
I personally thought it was a good angle - like they did not stretch it out and making it a mean, conniving ex coming back to be a thorn for our main couple.
As to her comeback - I think it did its purpose - it made Mi Ran feel jealous, then overcome it. Also we got to know that Director Do does have some feelings for Mi Ran, I mean it was obvious from the start when he gave the jacket, then followed her to the other gym in secret, then also shoved her ex and now running barefoot with her on the back. Just need them to seal it with a kiss!
The second part of the ex-comeback will be more evident in coming episode. Her death would be blamed on Director Do. She was an influencer and so people will look for targets to blame her death on and given the preview looks like its falling on Director Do.
So this was a very fresh take I feel of having a ex-girlfriend in a storyline.
Ep 9 - Damn this is how you do wonderful stories, use age-old formula of ex-GF in a new fresh way! Anyone wondering on this, please read my first comment below under spoiler tag. Do share your thoughts too.
Also, while I love the comedy/emotions/twists - I too am yearning for the romance to kick in full speed and not bits and pieces, PLISSSHH!
I think the only reason people could savour the twist was because of the acting, since this plot was somewhat…
Yes, acting no doubt was top-notch, I mean with fine actors and actresses, we expected nothing less. But that itself is a double-edged sword you can say - cause with such caliber of talent - I would have preferred another form of ending. It felt too underwhelming the more I think about it. Like the makers just did not know what to do and had a very overly used formula played out.
Ep 9 - Our ML finds expensive books from a public (?) library (scene with his master, MGM) and then goes to Zhen Tower. The books are in the hands of the attendant, and after meeting with FL - ML is returning empty-handed 😅 books totally forgotten
I know the whole point was not books but meeting with Master in secret and the FL But still as a man who is supposed to be clever and resourceful, this was a character oversight Minor but there 😂😂😂
Completed ep 19, and I've fallen for PJ's masculine charm, like so many others. He's my favourite type of villain,…
Ahhh - MGM is complex. So am starting Ep 9 and so far while MGM has been great, I have my suspicions too. Especially given that he is a person who would do anything not to drown in the proverbial sinking boat - like he himself mentioned and advises Zang Hai.
I really like his character - he reminds me of Sensei's like Yoda, Shifu, Miyagi etc. So I really hope he is a good character through and through. But I am still a little sus with the whole masked man, and the 2 masters - like could there be another motive they trained this young boy....!
I'm sorry did the writers forgot they actually made ZZX some sort of martial artist prodigy complete with two…
Wait Wait - he was not taught martial arts, right?
Like as soon as he is brought to the 2 masters - as a child Zhinu, he asks that he be taught martial arts but then the master refuses outright saying he is too weak (I think he meant physically and some lines about weak bones).
He goes on to explain that Martial Arts/Physical Power is not the only way to get revenge and which is why he was taught the other arts - strategy, geomancy etc. Basically he was raised to use his wits and "silver tongue" to turn the tides in his favor - by turning the enemy on themselves - which is what he is doing.
I have not reached this episode that you are talking about (I am on Ep 9) but just thought that he was never taught martial arts in the first place - like he may know the basics but that is not his forte and maybe that is why he can't fight in the scene you mentioned?
1. Eventhough it is showing in youku, this is actually a cctv official drama which is airing 2 episodes per day,…
1. 2 episodes per day is so good especially for a revenge/suspense show which you cannot keep down.
2. So far it is good although starting out (am on Ep 9), so I wanted to know how others are feeling it. Usually romance as a plot is not needed in a revenge drama, unless it is the main driver. Which is why it usually done badly than good - at least that's what my experience had been. Given the drama is going so well RN, I was scared that something will go wrong and it will break my good experience. Good to set the expectation accordingly then, but looks like I wont need to do that here.
3. I am hoping you watch C-dramas usually, can you share what could be the reference in general? Like Ming Dynasty is too wide - they mention some years 9th year in <....> Era. Any idea what it could be. Its okay - if you don't - just was curious as I got too deep into this show 😅
I love that kind of genre - where the hero is able to use tricks/mind games/strategy to win over the enemies. And if there is revenge and emotion added, that's a bonus for sure. Which is why I was drawn to this drama even with my less and in-experience with historical C-dramas and I am glad I did.
Thanks a lot for answering and happy watching to you too!
Whaaaat the fat? This is the new kdrama catch phrase of the year. He just cracks me up so much. Their humor both…
WHAT THE will be universal. It is another #Gwenchana Gwenchana. This can be used for any situation in our lives I feel.
What the Homework! - or work, depends What the Stupid! - for people or situations that warrant it What the Wait! - for the time we have to wait for the next episode What the Suspense! - when the makers give us cliffhangers and epilogues like in Ep 8 What the FAT! - personal motivation mantra/fight scream, next time anyone feels lazy to exercise.
The uses are endless, and What the Fan we have all become 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
and yes - I think in recent times, LJY is the most versatile actor I have seen. Makes it even better to know that he is an idol-turned-actor. I just love that he is getting the recognition he deserves and hoping it also results in more projects/main roles and awards in future. 2025 first half literally belonged to him and I hope the rest does too. Maybe it is deliberate too - given military enlistment is coming soon, so I hope to see loads of him before there is a break - just don't want the projects to end anytime soon, he is too good of an artist.
I could watch an easy 16 episodes of this kdrama. It's too funny. Do Hyeon's grimace is 10/10. I hope we'll be…
I really want to know what is their beef - Director Do and Lee Roy's ? Why are they not seeing eye-to-eye? I guess would have to do with Do Hyeon's past - and am assuming maybe even Kang Sol, since she seems to be a common factor. Excited to see how the next 4 episodes roll out.
i absolutely love the fact kang sol and miran became friends and that kang sol is a girls girl !!
For now - yes, but then we know how the ex-lover formula works in K-dramas. So I hope it ends well and is an overall happy note and I don't have to scream along with Director Do "WHAT THE EX-GIRLFRIEND!"
OMG - I have seen the actor in so many shows, and 68 years only is really shocking and sudden. May he rest in peace and I hope his loved ones find the strength to overcome this difficult situation.
I know it may seem like mere words, but even if they are on the other side of the screen and there is no personal connection - given we enjoy drama/movies so much, that the characters/actors in it seem real/relatable. Therefore hearing such news is never easy.
For him I will especially remember - 49 Days, Childe, Legend of the Blue Sea, Juvenile Justice as some of the works where I recall him most fondly 💔
Some Questions as I watch this drama - and a long winded post, so bear with me:
(1) Given this drama airs daily, this would end by June 15? (2) I am at Ep 8 - any romance we will get to see? And if it is good or just done for the sake of it? (3) The time period that this drama is talking about - is it real or fictional? If anyone can share more details or let me know some keywords I can search on.
In my almost a decade long time of watching Asian dramas, C-dramas have always taken a backseat. After Reset and a few CZY (modern) dramas - this is my re-attempt to get invested in C-dramas. I am enjoying the show so far and hopefully this comment doesn't jinx it.
In any case I want to set my watching pace, expectation right hence asking Point 1 & 2, and 3 is for my own curiousity/general awareness.
I have been following K-dramas since long, so I deep-dived and understood the history of the land for real. Want to do the same for C-dramas, should it excite me further to watch more dramas. I have read about the Republican Era and it was interesting along with the dramas I have seen. Historical Dramas I have come across were mostly fantasy (?) - wuxia and Xianxia (?) and the concept did not work for me. This drama - Legend of Zang Hai also has "fantasy" tag and elements - but so far, there have been no unbelievable flying men fights - so am good and liking it so far.
Anyways - I will end my long post here - in case anyone is still reading this, please let me know on the above 3 points. I find MDL as the best resource for such questions, so please help out this (almost) new historical C-drama newbie - as I want to broaden my watching realm, Thanks! 💖
They have no connection at all. You will not find anything at all by watching other dramas. The only they took…
Yes, as soon as I got the answers - I started the drama today. Already on Ep 5 - given it is a working day, I am unable to binge it at the speed I like. But that's okay - I will pace it out as it is an airing drama. But I am really liking the story, characters and direction of this drama.
I do not watch much C-dramas, and usually give up early on because of multiple reasons but so far this has been good and I hope to finish it.
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I was skeptical of the FL cause while I have seen her only in the Frog, I was not convinced with her acting as such. And now reading all the comments - I am doubtful again.
Given it is 10 eps, is it worth starting/watching?
also --- why does the article date say, 2023? It got published recently and the drama is supposed to be released in 2025. WHAT THE CONFUSION!
I personally thought it was a good angle - like they did not stretch it out and make Kang Sol a mean, conniving ex coming back to be a thorn for our main couple. She in a way is perhaps a catalyst for the love story and also more.
1) Her role in bringing the main couple close:
➥ She made Mi Ran feel jealous, then overcome it. We get to know that she is rooting for Mi Ran, and in fact her presence makes Mi Ran be a bit more bold and take action.
➥ Director Do also has feelings for Mi Ran:
I mean it was obvious from the start when he gave the jacket, then followed her to the other gym in secret, then also shoved her ex at the bus stop and now running barefoot with her on the back. Just need them to seal it with a kiss, for these fools to realise that they are in love.
2) Kang Sol's second part of comeback reason:
➥ This will be more evident in coming episode.
➥ Her death would be blamed on Director Do. She was an influencer and so people will look for targets to blame her death on and given the preview looks like its falling on Director Do.
➥ Maybe the 24-Hour Club will be in danger of shutting down, but Director Do will have unwavering support from Mi Ran, bringing them closer
➥ Further, looks like Lee Roy might help out in some way; making amends to their otherwise banter/rivalry
➥ Ultimately something from Kang Sol's archive posts/or future scheduled posts will be revealed and people will realise Director Do is innocent OR Mi Ran and Director Do will clear the latter's name bringing them closer
Hence, I loved the way they used the ex-girlfriend formula in a very refreshing way. It all fits quite well, and till now we don't hate any character or so. Its all still in good fun, emotional bits, and hopefully NEVER A SAD ENDING!
As to her comeback - I think it did its purpose - it made Mi Ran feel jealous, then overcome it. Also we got to know that Director Do does have some feelings for Mi Ran, I mean it was obvious from the start when he gave the jacket, then followed her to the other gym in secret, then also shoved her ex and now running barefoot with her on the back. Just need them to seal it with a kiss!
The second part of the ex-comeback will be more evident in coming episode. Her death would be blamed on Director Do. She was an influencer and so people will look for targets to blame her death on and given the preview looks like its falling on Director Do.
So this was a very fresh take I feel of having a ex-girlfriend in a storyline.
Also, while I love the comedy/emotions/twists - I too am yearning for the romance to kick in full speed and not bits and pieces, PLISSSHH!
Ep 9 - Our ML finds expensive books from a public (?) library (scene with his master, MGM) and then goes to Zhen Tower. The books are in the hands of the attendant, and after meeting with FL - ML is returning empty-handed 😅 books totally forgotten
I know the whole point was not books but meeting with Master in secret and the FL
But still as a man who is supposed to be clever and resourceful, this was a character oversight
Minor but there 😂😂😂
I really like his character - he reminds me of Sensei's like Yoda, Shifu, Miyagi etc. So I really hope he is a good character through and through. But I am still a little sus with the whole masked man, and the 2 masters - like could there be another motive they trained this young boy....!
Like as soon as he is brought to the 2 masters - as a child Zhinu, he asks that he be taught martial arts but then the master refuses outright saying he is too weak (I think he meant physically and some lines about weak bones).
He goes on to explain that Martial Arts/Physical Power is not the only way to get revenge and which is why he was taught the other arts - strategy, geomancy etc. Basically he was raised to use his wits and "silver tongue" to turn the tides in his favor - by turning the enemy on themselves - which is what he is doing.
I have not reached this episode that you are talking about (I am on Ep 9) but just thought that he was never taught martial arts in the first place - like he may know the basics but that is not his forte and maybe that is why he can't fight in the scene you mentioned?
2. So far it is good although starting out (am on Ep 9), so I wanted to know how others are feeling it. Usually romance as a plot is not needed in a revenge drama, unless it is the main driver. Which is why it usually done badly than good - at least that's what my experience had been. Given the drama is going so well RN, I was scared that something will go wrong and it will break my good experience. Good to set the expectation accordingly then, but looks like I wont need to do that here.
3. I am hoping you watch C-dramas usually, can you share what could be the reference in general? Like Ming Dynasty is too wide - they mention some years 9th year in <....> Era. Any idea what it could be. Its okay - if you don't - just was curious as I got too deep into this show 😅
I love that kind of genre - where the hero is able to use tricks/mind games/strategy to win over the enemies. And if there is revenge and emotion added, that's a bonus for sure. Which is why I was drawn to this drama even with my less and in-experience with historical C-dramas and I am glad I did.
Thanks a lot for answering and happy watching to you too!
(2) Okay - that is good to know that the chemistry is good. At the point where I am it seems to be just starting out.
(3) Okay...
Thanks for answering and Happy Drama Watching! Looking forward to discuss more, as we progress in this drama!
This can be used for any situation in our lives I feel.
What the Homework! - or work, depends
What the Stupid! - for people or situations that warrant it
What the Wait! - for the time we have to wait for the next episode
What the Suspense! - when the makers give us cliffhangers and epilogues like in Ep 8
What the FAT! - personal motivation mantra/fight scream, next time anyone feels lazy to exercise.
The uses are endless, and What the Fan we have all become 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
and yes - I think in recent times, LJY is the most versatile actor I have seen. Makes it even better to know that he is an idol-turned-actor. I just love that he is getting the recognition he deserves and hoping it also results in more projects/main roles and awards in future. 2025 first half literally belonged to him and I hope the rest does too. Maybe it is deliberate too - given military enlistment is coming soon, so I hope to see loads of him before there is a break - just don't want the projects to end anytime soon, he is too good of an artist.
Why are they not seeing eye-to-eye? I guess would have to do with Do Hyeon's past - and am assuming maybe even Kang Sol, since she seems to be a common factor. Excited to see how the next 4 episodes roll out.
What the Wait!
So I hope it ends well and is an overall happy note and I don't have to scream along with Director Do "WHAT THE EX-GIRLFRIEND!"
I know it may seem like mere words, but even if they are on the other side of the screen and there is no personal connection - given we enjoy drama/movies so much, that the characters/actors in it seem real/relatable. Therefore hearing such news is never easy.
For him I will especially remember - 49 Days, Childe, Legend of the Blue Sea, Juvenile Justice as some of the works where I recall him most fondly 💔
(1) Given this drama airs daily, this would end by June 15?
(2) I am at Ep 8 - any romance we will get to see? And if it is good or just done for the sake of it?
(3) The time period that this drama is talking about - is it real or fictional? If anyone can share more details or let me know some keywords I can search on.
In my almost a decade long time of watching Asian dramas, C-dramas have always taken a backseat. After Reset and a few CZY (modern) dramas - this is my re-attempt to get invested in C-dramas. I am enjoying the show so far and hopefully this comment doesn't jinx it.
In any case I want to set my watching pace, expectation right hence asking Point 1 & 2, and 3 is for my own curiousity/general awareness.
I have been following K-dramas since long, so I deep-dived and understood the history of the land for real. Want to do the same for C-dramas, should it excite me further to watch more dramas. I have read about the Republican Era and it was interesting along with the dramas I have seen. Historical Dramas I have come across were mostly fantasy (?) - wuxia and Xianxia (?) and the concept did not work for me. This drama - Legend of Zang Hai also has "fantasy" tag and elements - but so far, there have been no unbelievable flying men fights - so am good and liking it so far.
Anyways - I will end my long post here - in case anyone is still reading this, please let me know on the above 3 points. I find MDL as the best resource for such questions, so please help out this (almost) new historical C-drama newbie - as I want to broaden my watching realm, Thanks! 💖
I do not watch much C-dramas, and usually give up early on because of multiple reasons but so far this has been good and I hope to finish it.