Rewatching this while I wait for new episodes - cause am obsessed with the expressions, hoarse voice, muscular poses and English phrases that Lee Jun Young does, is too good and funny!
The Zumba Session, the What the SOJUUU etc, The Gym Song is on repeat 🤣💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Ah In's conviction is too fresh. Using him to promote the movie would probably cause more damage. But according…
That's good to know - and I hope it is true. We should condemn the act, not the person or their craft, but there is no easy answer to this whole thing. All I can hope that we get to see his work :)
Just saw the 2nd Teaser: 1. Where is Yoo Ah In? I hope the teasers are false and he actually has a good amount of scenes 2. Jinyoung is looking so hot as a villain 🔥🔥🔥 This phase of his was much needed. For me, the ultimate hottie baddie is Lee Jun Young, but looks like this list can be expanded with whatever I am seeing in the teaser for Jinyoung 💖
This is my wild guess - but let me know what are you thoughts:https://kisskh.at/763603-more-beautiful-than-heaven#comment-21978788
Yeah - a trauma so strong that it erased some memories. But it can happen, at least in drama. I mean we have to draw some drama logic to explain the show - guess makers chose this.
Guess #1: Som-i and Nak-Joon were old lovers. But overtime he broke up with her, due to some reason, maybe unable…
Haha - happens , even after I finished writing my comment/theory - re-reading it made me second guess as there are holes in it. And yes we have to wait for the weekend to get answers, but all this is gnawing at me.
And I agree with your repressed memory bit as well. In fact that was my Guess #2 - but then I just saw that it was not posted in my comment. I will edit and add it back. Though it is a weaker guess of mine - cause why will a repressed memory take shape of a human form in Heaven/Hell?
Also initially even I though that she could be the younger version of Hae Sook, but that seems far fetched. Like that would mean there are 2 people of same identity existing at same place and time, which seems impossible, even by fantasy logic showed in this drama.
Added the point for Guess 2 - Somi is related to detective, either wife or lover. Have a read, when you have time in my original comment for Guess 2.
Guess #1: Som-i and Nak-Joon were old lovers. But overtime he broke up with her, due to some reason, maybe unable…
Som-i is in love with Nak-Joon before she got her memories back. Given it is the only person she knew and searched for, plus he saved her from going to Hell. So overtime being close to a green-flag guy like him, must have made her develop a crush.
But it totally goes away (or I am assuming it has) as soon as she is gained her memories (or whatever they are, as she wants to believe) and she is not crushing on him at all.
Why did he hug Som-i? I don't think it was a romantic hug but rather the relief that two humans/souls in their case are safe. The detective soul was going to become aggressive and had a lot of power - so once the Grim Reaper sucks out the black negative energy from Som-i, the detective soul is set loose - and Nak Joon collapses out of tiredness/choke strangle. Even Som-i just falls down because that adrenaline rush or surge of anger leaves her body and it is just 2 people who have just witnessed a near death (their case removal of existence) experience so they just collapsed and were in an embrace kind of a format.
Or maybe the earlier theory that I have added - Somi is actually mentally not well, which Nak Joon remembers and given they were lovers at some point, this is just him caring for her.
At this point these are all assumptions - I am very confused too with all the things they bombarded us with in Ep 10. We NEED the finale week ASAP. Wish the week would move quickly LOL
I wonder why Hae Suk doesn’t remember she had a child? Was the loss so unbearable that she lost her memory?…
I doubt he cheated on Hae-Suk. Ultimately this is a story about unconditional love for the main couple - and plus he would not be in heaven if he was a cheating husband.
Let me know what you think - my mind is reeling like anything, and I cannot wait for the next 5 days and so looking for any kind of discussion on this 😅
WHAT THE EP 10? They have really upped the stakes and game for the finale week. Too much suspense - we need the…
Guess #1:
Som-i and Nak-Joon were old lovers. But overtime he broke up with her, due to some reason, maybe unable to cope up that she was of unsound mind. He later meets Hae-Sook and they fall in love and get married. Som-i was not in her right mind - and she imagined that she and Nak-Joon were still lovers. She stalked Nak-Joon and Hae-Sook and imagined herself to be Hae-Sook.
At some point, she abducted their son, Eun-ho and pretended to be the mother. The scene where the child mentions the mothers name as Hae-Sook, might be her guilt thinking.
Finally Nak-Joon finds his son, with the help of the detective. Which is why when he is taking him away and looks back at Som-i, it is with almost a feeling of pure hatred.
But Som-i kept stalking him, and bribed the detective and stole Eun-Ho again. And then he probably was left at the church, waiting and died in the cold weather at 5 years of age. Unable to find their son, Hae-Sook went into shock and completely erased the memories of even having a son. This made Nak-Joon find Som-i and he confronted the detective. Which is the Nak Joon memory we see - a smug look on detective's face.
The detective remarks that he is dead and learning that his son was dead, that is where Nak Joon finds Som-i and attempted to drown her. Given that he is in heaven, he probably did not have it in him to drown/kill her - and while returning met with an accident that took away the use of his legs. (Or maybe detective caused it).
Hae-Sook - disturbed completely, therefore focused all her energy into taking care of him, and Nak-Joon also never brought the name of his son, as he saw this was better for Hae-Sook.
Meanwhile Som-i after the attempted drowning in her poor mental state, thinks that the detective and Nak-Joon, illegally gave Eun Ho for adoption (not coming to terms with the reality that the child was dead because of her fault). She went to confront the detective, and he was an evil guy - so by accident or purposely, he puts her into an asylum. Som-i died in the asylum due to old age - and that is why when she meets Nak-Joon on the train after so many years (given she arrived same time as Hae-Sook, she too would have died at an old age), she does not remember anything because she was not of sound mind. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This guess seemed logical in my head - but I cannot answer why detective was giving money to Nak Joon, which was witnessed by Som-i. Either it is real, or her imagination to make believe that what she did was right and the two men took Eun Ho from her and illegally gave him for adoption. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Guess #2: Som-i and Detective were married or lovers. The detective was corrupt and was kidnapping kids to sell them for adoption abroad. Som-i was mentally ill, but did not appear so or admit so. She probably lost her own baby (either in the womb or maybe after birth, in infancy) and was separated from the Detective. Hence no one knew that she was actually deeply mentally unwell. The detective had an idea but he simply ignored her.
But this illness manifested - and Hae-Sook and Nam-Joon, recently got married and moved into the same town as Som-i & Detective. Som-i imagined herself to be in love with Nak-Joon, seeing how in love the couple (HS & NJ) were. She was being delusional and thought she and Nak Joon were lovers. And so when Nak Joon and Hae Sook have a baby, she abducted the baby or a little older, thinking it was hers and moves town.
Nak-Joon looks for the baby and at home, Hae-Sook becomes sad after losing her baby. Maybe a form of post partum depression + losing her baby, she ends up blocking the memory altogether. Nak-Joon while searching for his son - takes years and finally gets to know that the Detective has been illegally kidnapping babies and sending them for adoption.
Nak Joon confronting the Detective in a forest like area - is the memory we see, and probably the time, Nak Joon gets to meet the Detective. The detective in order to hide the entire operation as maybe it involved more from his team - he gives Nak Joon the address of Som-i and the location of Eun Ho. Nak-Joon is able to take away Eun-Ho, and that is the memory fragment we see in Som-i's recollection. Her reality is that Eun Ho was her son and abducted by Nak Joon, but in actual it was Nak Joon taking back his own son. A part her was confused or maybe guilty - I mean if it was her son, why did she not rush after them if she saw him being abducted?
Nak-Joon is about to depart with Eun-Ho, and that is when Detective also gives him some money. This money is for the damaged causes and request Nak Joon to keep mum on the whole adoption racket they are running. Nak Joon also accepts maybe cause the days were hard for him and Hae Sook and any help would be good, plus he got his son and that is what matters to him.
But this is overseen by Som-i and she thinks that they are partners in the illegal adoption process and therefore she again tricks and abducts Eun Ho back. She leaves him at the church promising to return. Nak Joon is unable to find Eun Ho, and confronts Som-i who lies that Eun Ho is dead. Filled with rage, Nak Joon tries to drown her but is unable to go through it due to his sadness at losing Eun Ho and thinking of Hae Sook. He leaves her alive and is going back home, but the Detective causes his accident, which makes him handicapped. Detective was planning to kill him to keep him quiet and thinks that he is dead and goes his way (probably also taking back the money he gave him in first place). From that point on - Hae Sook takes care of Nak Joon, and NJ also does not bring up Eun Ho thinking it is for the best that they both forget.
The detective on the other hand finds Som-i half-drowned and knowing the kind of problems she does, and is a threat as well to expose his illegal adoption process - he either kills her or puts her in the asylum. Most likely put her in an mental hospital, which is where Somi dies years later - having forgotten what she had also done, and therefore she is without any memories after her death.
Reason Nak Joon saves her from going to Hell - possibly cause a part of him does not remember her as the main culprit of the incident where he lost his son, but his body just reacts that she too was mentally sick and should not be going to Hell. Or maybe he wanted teach a lesson - but given how surprised he was to find her as well, I am guessing he has forgotten all about her - and his body just reacted to save her - probably because when he was drowning her - he ended up saving her and that was the same jerk reaction that re-occured.
Guess #3 - Som-i is actually Hae-Sook, as many others have also said given we have not seen the young Hae-Sook. She is actually a fragment of her imagination and probably did something bad to her own son - Eun-ho either knowingly or most likely unknowingly. Which is why that fragment was going to Hell.
They might play this theory - but tbh I find it very weird and illogical. Afterall, people come to heaven or hell, and if it were fragments of people who were also getting categorised to hell and heaven, then there would be too many permutation combination. And why only work for Hae-Sook. Even if the makers try to explain it logically - I think in dramas like this these kind of exceptions dont work and deliberately created to make unnecessary chaos. And if this is true - then why did Nak Joon refuse to recognise her on the first meeting at their house.
Anyways lets see how it all pans out.
P.S. It is really very weird to see the ML with any other woman than Hae-Sook. That kiss at any other time would have been cute but in my mind I was like NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! 😡😠
WHAT THE EP 10? They have really upped the stakes and game for the finale week. Too much suspense - we need the answers of how it could be, whatever they showed us in Ep 10.
My guess in comment below - others watching, share your thoughts. I really cannot rest for next 5 days. My mind is literally whirling....
I have a feeling too that Hyeon Jung probably liked her as well, at first sight - given all the epilogues we have…
Yes, cannot wait for how it all unfolds with the last 6 episodes. I hope they do it well, and the story just gets better with every other arc explored and ties it up well with the finale! *fingers-crossed*
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The Zumba Session, the What the SOJUUU etc, The Gym Song is on repeat 🤣💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
We should condemn the act, not the person or their craft, but there is no easy answer to this whole thing. All I can hope that we get to see his work :)
1. Where is Yoo Ah In? I hope the teasers are false and he actually has a good amount of scenes
2. Jinyoung is looking so hot as a villain 🔥🔥🔥 This phase of his was much needed.
For me, the ultimate hottie baddie is Lee Jun Young, but looks like this list can be expanded with whatever I am seeing in the teaser for Jinyoung 💖
My take on it: https://kisskh.at/763603-more-beautiful-than-heaven#comment-21978788
It will open the same page but highlight my comment under spoiler tag, where I have shared my theories.
And I agree with your repressed memory bit as well. In fact that was my Guess #2 - but then I just saw that it was not posted in my comment. I will edit and add it back. Though it is a weaker guess of mine - cause why will a repressed memory take shape of a human form in Heaven/Hell?
Also initially even I though that she could be the younger version of Hae Sook, but that seems far fetched. Like that would mean there are 2 people of same identity existing at same place and time, which seems impossible, even by fantasy logic showed in this drama.
Added the point for Guess 2 - Somi is related to detective, either wife or lover. Have a read, when you have time in my original comment for Guess 2.
But it totally goes away (or I am assuming it has) as soon as she is gained her memories (or whatever they are, as she wants to believe) and she is not crushing on him at all.
Why did he hug Som-i? I don't think it was a romantic hug but rather the relief that two humans/souls in their case are safe. The detective soul was going to become aggressive and had a lot of power - so once the Grim Reaper sucks out the black negative energy from Som-i, the detective soul is set loose - and Nak Joon collapses out of tiredness/choke strangle. Even Som-i just falls down because that adrenaline rush or surge of anger leaves her body and it is just 2 people who have just witnessed a near death (their case removal of existence) experience so they just collapsed and were in an embrace kind of a format.
Or maybe the earlier theory that I have added - Somi is actually mentally not well, which Nak Joon remembers and given they were lovers at some point, this is just him caring for her.
At this point these are all assumptions - I am very confused too with all the things they bombarded us with in Ep 10. We NEED the finale week ASAP. Wish the week would move quickly LOL
Let's brainstorm while we wait for the finale week! The makers really know what they were doing giving us such a suspense in the penultimate week!
This is my theory on it - it is not flowing well, cause the role of detective and money exchange is something am not able to figure out, but have a read and let me know what do you think:
https://kisskh.at/763603-more-beautiful-than-heaven#comment-21978788
And yes - they need to give us SOLID answers in the finale week, and am guessing they will. But yes the wait till then is unbearable....
but yet to see how Som-i fits into all this. This is my wild guess: https://kisskh.at/763603-more-beautiful-than-heaven#comment-21978788
Let me know what you think - my mind is reeling like anything, and I cannot wait for the next 5 days and so looking for any kind of discussion on this 😅
https://kisskh.at/763603-more-beautiful-than-heaven#comment-21978788
Som-i and Nak-Joon were old lovers. But overtime he broke up with her, due to some reason, maybe unable to cope up that she was of unsound mind. He later meets Hae-Sook and they fall in love and get married. Som-i was not in her right mind - and she imagined that she and Nak-Joon were still lovers. She stalked Nak-Joon and Hae-Sook and imagined herself to be Hae-Sook.
At some point, she abducted their son, Eun-ho and pretended to be the mother. The scene where the child mentions the mothers name as Hae-Sook, might be her guilt thinking.
Finally Nak-Joon finds his son, with the help of the detective. Which is why when he is taking him away and looks back at Som-i, it is with almost a feeling of pure hatred.
But Som-i kept stalking him, and bribed the detective and stole Eun-Ho again. And then he probably was left at the church, waiting and died in the cold weather at 5 years of age. Unable to find their son, Hae-Sook went into shock and completely erased the memories of even having a son. This made Nak-Joon find Som-i and he confronted the detective. Which is the Nak Joon memory we see - a smug look on detective's face.
The detective remarks that he is dead and learning that his son was dead, that is where Nak Joon finds Som-i and attempted to drown her. Given that he is in heaven, he probably did not have it in him to drown/kill her - and while returning met with an accident that took away the use of his legs. (Or maybe detective caused it).
Hae-Sook - disturbed completely, therefore focused all her energy into taking care of him, and Nak-Joon also never brought the name of his son, as he saw this was better for Hae-Sook.
Meanwhile Som-i after the attempted drowning in her poor mental state, thinks that the detective and Nak-Joon, illegally gave Eun Ho for adoption (not coming to terms with the reality that the child was dead because of her fault). She went to confront the detective, and he was an evil guy - so by accident or purposely, he puts her into an asylum. Som-i died in the asylum due to old age - and that is why when she meets Nak-Joon on the train after so many years (given she arrived same time as Hae-Sook, she too would have died at an old age), she does not remember anything because she was not of sound mind.
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This guess seemed logical in my head - but I cannot answer why detective was giving money to Nak Joon, which was witnessed by Som-i. Either it is real, or her imagination to make believe that what she did was right and the two men took Eun Ho from her and illegally gave him for adoption.
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Guess #2:
Som-i and Detective were married or lovers. The detective was corrupt and was kidnapping kids to sell them for adoption abroad. Som-i was mentally ill, but did not appear so or admit so. She probably lost her own baby (either in the womb or maybe after birth, in infancy) and was separated from the Detective. Hence no one knew that she was actually deeply mentally unwell. The detective had an idea but he simply ignored her.
But this illness manifested - and Hae-Sook and Nam-Joon, recently got married and moved into the same town as Som-i & Detective. Som-i imagined herself to be in love with Nak-Joon, seeing how in love the couple (HS & NJ) were. She was being delusional and thought she and Nak Joon were lovers. And so when Nak Joon and Hae Sook have a baby, she abducted the baby or a little older, thinking it was hers and moves town.
Nak-Joon looks for the baby and at home, Hae-Sook becomes sad after losing her baby. Maybe a form of post partum depression + losing her baby, she ends up blocking the memory altogether. Nak-Joon while searching for his son - takes years and finally gets to know that the Detective has been illegally kidnapping babies and sending them for adoption.
Nak Joon confronting the Detective in a forest like area - is the memory we see, and probably the time, Nak Joon gets to meet the Detective. The detective in order to hide the entire operation as maybe it involved more from his team - he gives Nak Joon the address of Som-i and the location of Eun Ho. Nak-Joon is able to take away Eun-Ho, and that is the memory fragment we see in Som-i's recollection. Her reality is that Eun Ho was her son and abducted by Nak Joon, but in actual it was Nak Joon taking back his own son. A part her was confused or maybe guilty - I mean if it was her son, why did she not rush after them if she saw him being abducted?
Nak-Joon is about to depart with Eun-Ho, and that is when Detective also gives him some money. This money is for the damaged causes and request Nak Joon to keep mum on the whole adoption racket they are running. Nak Joon also accepts maybe cause the days were hard for him and Hae Sook and any help would be good, plus he got his son and that is what matters to him.
But this is overseen by Som-i and she thinks that they are partners in the illegal adoption process and therefore she again tricks and abducts Eun Ho back. She leaves him at the church promising to return. Nak Joon is unable to find Eun Ho, and confronts Som-i who lies that Eun Ho is dead. Filled with rage, Nak Joon tries to drown her but is unable to go through it due to his sadness at losing Eun Ho and thinking of Hae Sook. He leaves her alive and is going back home, but the Detective causes his accident, which makes him handicapped. Detective was planning to kill him to keep him quiet and thinks that he is dead and goes his way (probably also taking back the money he gave him in first place). From that point on - Hae Sook takes care of Nak Joon, and NJ also does not bring up Eun Ho thinking it is for the best that they both forget.
The detective on the other hand finds Som-i half-drowned and knowing the kind of problems she does, and is a threat as well to expose his illegal adoption process - he either kills her or puts her in the asylum. Most likely put her in an mental hospital, which is where Somi dies years later - having forgotten what she had also done, and therefore she is without any memories after her death.
Reason Nak Joon saves her from going to Hell - possibly cause a part of him does not remember her as the main culprit of the incident where he lost his son, but his body just reacts that she too was mentally sick and should not be going to Hell. Or maybe he wanted teach a lesson - but given how surprised he was to find her as well, I am guessing he has forgotten all about her - and his body just reacted to save her - probably because when he was drowning her - he ended up saving her and that was the same jerk reaction that re-occured.
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Guess #3 - Som-i is actually Hae-Sook, as many others have also said given we have not seen the young Hae-Sook. She is actually a fragment of her imagination and probably did something bad to her own son - Eun-ho either knowingly or most likely unknowingly. Which is why that fragment was going to Hell.
They might play this theory - but tbh I find it very weird and illogical. Afterall, people come to heaven or hell, and if it were fragments of people who were also getting categorised to hell and heaven, then there would be too many permutation combination. And why only work for Hae-Sook. Even if the makers try to explain it logically - I think in dramas like this these kind of exceptions dont work and deliberately created to make unnecessary chaos. And if this is true - then why did Nak Joon refuse to recognise her on the first meeting at their house.
Anyways lets see how it all pans out.
P.S. It is really very weird to see the ML with any other woman than Hae-Sook. That kiss at any other time would have been cute but in my mind I was like NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! 😡😠
They have really upped the stakes and game for the finale week. Too much suspense - we need the answers of how it could be, whatever they showed us in Ep 10.
My guess in comment below - others watching, share your thoughts. I really cannot rest for next 5 days. My mind is literally whirling....
I hope they do it well, and the story just gets better with every other arc explored and ties it up well with the finale! *fingers-crossed*