It did still score a nomination despite the hot mess of a script in the latter half. Though I think Kim Ji Won deserved that nomination more than Kim Soo Hyun for this drama. She drew me in far more than the ML to keep watching even after the script tanked. And I found I could see her emotions better than his in many of their 1 on 1 scenes around the mid part of the drama.
Also to be fair, this recent Baeksang had some pretty good contenders with far more unique content and strong casts.
Any other drama deciding to take a decade to release a next season I wouldn’t fret over that much. But this one has a bunch of kids as main characters. I don’t know if I want to meet them again as middle aged adults 😭💀
sorry its not a BL drama, its bullying from classmates, gangsters, parents. even mistresses
I’m aware the drama is not. The source material however was indeed a BL genre. And a lot of people were mad about it being cut from the live adaptation without considering for the fact that the main character is a middle aged man, even if he physically looks like a teenager. There’s no scope for a healthy romance in that situation. Straight or gay.
Literally fucking ridiculous to boycott a remake of a remake for some faint connection to a country.Imagine boycotting…
It’s unfortunately a religion thing. The majority Moslems, band together and support their own blindly / through brainwashing emphatic advertising where they’re just told their brethren are victims or Islam is in danger. Nevermind the fact that the brethren in question is a bunch of terrorist groups that is loyal to no one and just wants to blow shit up. Then the political left picks up the Islamophobia victim card and runs with it, ignoring any mention of literal terrorist activities and you are left with a Israel is evil narrative just because Jews stood up together to reclaim their actual historical homeland and rebuild their home out of it when they were being prosecuted from everywhere and had no actual place to call home and find refuge.
^^He has a point you know. If you want the articles to stop, stop reacting on them. As of now, QOT articles gets a lot of likes and comments, though it’s getting lower. Long as it makes money, it’ll keep coming.
40 crying scenes? I am glad I did not watch this drama )
Eh it wasn’t always sad for every crying scene (or maybe I’m just immune to Kim Soo Hyun’s tears. He’s pretty and I like him well enough as an actor but he doesn’t move me emotionally often).
Also a bunch of his crying scenes were meant to be a gag/ for comedic effect. Like when he’s drunk. And crying. Crying about how cute he is as a drunk. And how if he wasn’t a cute drunk he wouldn’t have married a crazy hot billionaire.
CLOY is a fictional TV drama series within the Korean Shared Universe because it was playing on the Hong's TV…
Yep only way the shared universe works is if the QoT characters decided to debut as actors temporarily which is like teasing the fourth wall, or the CLOY characters are doppelgängers, maybe long lost family members divided by the North/South border
Just speak for yourself. You don’t know what the whole world or Koreans were watching.
That’s actually true though. The bit about quarantine affecting CLOY’s ratings.
Kdramas gained a lot more popularity and a new surge of audience during the Covid era, it acted as a new wave of Hallyu. So if CLOY had released in 2009 vs 2016 vs 2020 vs 2024 it would have some significant differences in viewership base that has nothing to do with the quality or likability of the drama itself. There’s also way too many factors that affect a rating of a drama on TV or it’s viewership base internationally to treat it as gospel.
Tomorrow another drama may topple the spot Queen of Tears took in ratings which will tell you nothing about which drama the viewers actually prefer, (especially if they are different genres). We can also not negate the previous success of CLOY contributing to the future success of QoT, as the writer and crew gains more traction, able to figure out better what would sell more and also attract better investment/influence in the industry due to status of star writer, not to mention any fans who loved her other previous dramas giving her new drama a try.
CLOY is a fictional TV drama series within the Korean Shared Universe because it was playing on the Hong's TV…
In that case, Queens group was one of the investors of that drama, for which in return they asked the CLOY writers to name drop them as part of various other PPL. Maybe the decision to invest in a drama was taken because aunt Beom Ja decided to give acting a try and starred as a North Korean ahjumma in CLOY. (She also roped in her new love, the villageman to star with her, although not as a couple, along with Hyun Woo’s two stalker bodyguards and got Hae In’s mom and Hyun Woo to cameo…….. and now this means the scene where Hae In’s mom is watching CLOY takes place in the future). 🤔
May I ask about the drama? I did not understand...👇
It’s covered in the last couple episodes.
Particularly after he was captured by the North, we first hear his off-screen voice, finally speaking up, asking his cell neighbour (the blind dude who fit in the trunk) to live just before that poor dude was about kill himself. After that, as present day events unfolded, that blind dude was recruited for his superclap powers and he finally left his cell. After the bloody battle at the South Korean school, the only North super who made it back to his homeland was the flying dude who had his arm zapped off. He proceeded to kill his own boss, because he had a family and kids to protect himself and could see his own kids would be hurt and used like the way the South Korean kids were a target. Then made his way to Doo Shik’s cell to set him free to protect his own kid, sympathising as a fellow super and parent. Thus ending Doo Shik’s long imprisonment in the North Korean concentration camp cave. Doo Shik’s own first order of business as a free man was shooting dead his ex-boss (deliberately killing for the first time ever) in order to protect his son. After which he was free to return home to his family.
I prefer it sometimes depending on how big the time jump is. My Sunshine (2015) went from Uni days 18 & 20 with…
Han Hyo Joo, Jo In Sung and Ryu Seung Ryong are the main catch for the audience to even consider watching the drama before they know anything about it.
If your main star MCs have a very limited screentime and then it’s divided halfway between more older actors or younger actors then you’re a losing a lot of the charm of the main character. Which gets especially messy when you have an already very long line of cast AND a different set of younger generation main characters.
It’s far easier for the audience to suspend disbelief on the actual age of the actors vs equally accepting two different actors (esp when one likely less experienced or popular) as being the same character. (Think of any actor portrayal you’ve really liked and try to imagine someone else playing their character. Actors own their characters, and if very well received, the audience rejects anyone else portraying the same role even if the other actor is excellent in their own capacity.)
Anyway, these Moving characters are all supernatural beings. We know of atleast one character whose actual powers include not aging physically and another that is able to exert control on time itself. It’s possible that some other supers have distorted aging due to their various powers. Or it’s just Korean/Asian genes with a healthy helping of fillers and whatnot😏
I don't mind the large amount of flashback focusing on the parents, but I wish they had spaced them out more and…
It might have been more typical but then you know there would be people complaining that they can’t keep track of the timelines or remember who’s who and how they knew each other before vs now. So they went with the give full focus to one character’s backstory at a time.
Conclusion: there’s always going to be complaints no matter which route the writer takes when there’s this vast a cast of characters all of whom have detailed backgrounds spanning different time periods with the added spice of espionage secrets/plot twists.
I just have to quickly vent- I absolutely HATE when subtitlers completely change & add to what the characters…
Oh yes in certain scenes there was complete rewriting of the dialogue making the accompanying behaviour and reactions of the actors not make any sense.
I dislike even when the subbers these days translate “sunbae” “hyung” “noona” “professional titles” etc as the simply the literal first or last name of the character because in many dramas the whole ‘how you’re addressing xyz’ is a big thing and minor plot point in itself.
Uhh, aren’t villain reveals (even if they are painfully obvious by episode 1) typically presented as a plot twist or kept secret until the narrative unfolds?
His character will be a “hidden weapon”…. well I suppose not so hidden anymore.
But some American magazine is not going to be the judge of that. The audience is.
Also to be fair, this recent Baeksang had some pretty good contenders with far more unique content and strong casts.
Any other drama deciding to take a decade to release a next season I wouldn’t fret over that much. But this one has a bunch of kids as main characters. I don’t know if I want to meet them again as middle aged adults 😭💀
If they turn this fluffy and “comedy” or romantic then there’s no point for adaptation.
Will try to keep open mind and hope they are able to keep the psychological thriller.
Also a bunch of his crying scenes were meant to be a gag/ for comedic effect. Like when he’s drunk. And crying. Crying about how cute he is as a drunk. And how if he wasn’t a cute drunk he wouldn’t have married a crazy hot billionaire.
Kdramas gained a lot more popularity and a new surge of audience during the Covid era, it acted as a new wave of Hallyu. So if CLOY had released in 2009 vs 2016 vs 2020 vs 2024 it would have some significant differences in viewership base that has nothing to do with the quality or likability of the drama itself. There’s also way too many factors that affect a rating of a drama on TV or it’s viewership base internationally to treat it as gospel.
Tomorrow another drama may topple the spot Queen of Tears took in ratings which will tell you nothing about which drama the viewers actually prefer, (especially if they are different genres). We can also not negate the previous success of CLOY contributing to the future success of QoT, as the writer and crew gains more traction, able to figure out better what would sell more and also attract better investment/influence in the industry due to status of star writer, not to mention any fans who loved her other previous dramas giving her new drama a try.
Particularly after he was captured by the North, we first hear his off-screen voice, finally speaking up, asking his cell neighbour (the blind dude who fit in the trunk) to live just before that poor dude was about kill himself. After that, as present day events unfolded, that blind dude was recruited for his superclap powers and he finally left his cell. After the bloody battle at the South Korean school, the only North super who made it back to his homeland was the flying dude who had his arm zapped off. He proceeded to kill his own boss, because he had a family and kids to protect himself and could see his own kids would be hurt and used like the way the South Korean kids were a target. Then made his way to Doo Shik’s cell to set him free to protect his own kid, sympathising as a fellow super and parent. Thus ending Doo Shik’s long imprisonment in the North Korean concentration camp cave. Doo Shik’s own first order of business as a free man was shooting dead his ex-boss (deliberately killing for the first time ever) in order to protect his son. After which he was free to return home to his family.
If your main star MCs have a very limited screentime and then it’s divided halfway between more older actors or younger actors then you’re a losing a lot of the charm of the main character. Which gets especially messy when you have an already very long line of cast AND a different set of younger generation main characters.
It’s far easier for the audience to suspend disbelief on the actual age of the actors vs equally accepting two different actors (esp when one likely less experienced or popular) as being the same character. (Think of any actor portrayal you’ve really liked and try to imagine someone else playing their character. Actors own their characters, and if very well received, the audience rejects anyone else portraying the same role even if the other actor is excellent in their own capacity.)
Anyway, these Moving characters are all supernatural beings. We know of atleast one character whose actual powers include not aging physically and another that is able to exert control on time itself. It’s possible that some other supers have distorted aging due to their various powers. Or it’s just Korean/Asian genes with a healthy helping of fillers and whatnot😏
I suppose the school’s gate guard is equally high up the ladder- he looked like her second in command in that last episode scene.
Conclusion: there’s always going to be complaints no matter which route the writer takes when there’s this vast a cast of characters all of whom have detailed backgrounds spanning different time periods with the added spice of espionage secrets/plot twists.
I dislike even when the subbers these days translate “sunbae” “hyung” “noona” “professional titles” etc as the simply the literal first or last name of the character because in many dramas the whole ‘how you’re addressing xyz’ is a big thing and minor plot point in itself.
His character will be a “hidden weapon”…. well I suppose not so hidden anymore.