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Do you find it plausible that Konno did not fall asleep? It's interesting that he said "let's take a nap" inviting Hayakawa to sleep next to him. Then to immediately fall asleep? I smell a trope. I genuinely don't believe he was sleeping. Let's see if this is revisited or not, but this is a classic bait-and-switch BLs pull all the time.

1. Imagine being bullied your whole childhood for being who you are, stuffing that down except around the one person who you thought you could trust. Then face the ultimate betrayal when that person reveals themselves to also think the same as everyone else, proceeding to bully and abandon you. It'd give you every reason to destroy what made you different, and hide. Take that guitar and think about how it symbolizes being gay in a homophobic society.

2. There is a very poignant message here about repression from childhood trauma and how it manifests. Hayakawa's repression arrives in the form of borderline personality disorder, specifically impulsive sex, mood swings, and loss of temper. The show doesn't romanticize his behaviors. This misconduct is treated as a toxic trait, and a warning to those who do not properly heal themselves. Often the case, abusers are once victims themselves. This is why the show heavily focuses on his childhood, to understand how repression and emotional disorders begin. Approach this mature subject matter with caution and sensitivity like the show does, rather than pearl clutch and totally miss the point.

3. There is more to Konno as well, he took care of himself when Haya got aggressive. He also crosses boundaries, too. Spying, prying, and pushing Haya to his breaking points. It's a complex relationship building between the two while also complimenting each other.

Yes, I respect their opinion if one is taking the romance seriously. However, I'm in the same boat as you. This is a full comedy. They really said hold my beer to Zettai BL ni Naru Sekai VS Zettai BL ni Naritakunai Otoko, and this became the better BL comedy.

In addition, I think this fan-dating conflict is actually extremely intriguing, it comes with a whole hosts of problems that would be interesting to explore. They are subtlety doing it under the guise of slapstick humor.

I think the punchline to the quiz was that he wasn't trying to be a love rival, but rival the position of Oni-Chan, which could mean big bro. It was left somewhat ambiguous whether his love was truly fraternal, usually they'd say Onii-san or Aniki rather than Oni-Chan (boyfriend moniker). Clever play on words to keep one guessing. It was settled that Hajime only thought of him as an older brother, and I assume he thought it was just a fan quiz. At first I thought the same, but the reveal cleared it up for me, at least. It was a nice subversion, and parody of that love rival trope that can completely change a show's dynamic with its introduction—this was in the funny meta commentary of the two producer women in the show while it was happening. 😂

I loved the format of this episode! The two producers were hilarious with narrating the showdown, and the subtle gag of them eating three mountains of fries made me laugh! Then the karaoke version of the childhood commercial… I didn't want to laugh because it was so stupid but I ended up laughing anyway. 😂

When you account for one of them being bisexual, it's even funnier 🤣

Might be reading a little too deep for what kind of show this is, but I thought it was interesting that they differentiated peace and happiness when it comes to being open about sexuality, and when it comes to being openly gay and happy one is ultimately forced to forfeit peace. Very nuanced.

me, watching the time on that sex scene 👀

I understand. To me this reminds me of Happy of the End, but an idealized version, more along the lines of fan-fiction and the show itself completely forgets that scene, it has no factor going forward. Tone is all over. That aside, there are other things to find entertaining so I continue to watch.

Nothing will ever top Sing in Love (kill your gays, tragedy porn, r*ape fantasy, etc), and the "cultured" crowd who praise it. I still watch things I have criticisms with, fluff and melodrama alike, no matter the quality, as long as those shows are self-aware of what they are. This show feels self-aware, that it is basically fan-fiction. If that is not your taste, if you just can't stand clichés, don't waste your time on this one or wait to skip'n'binge.

Ratings here are never based on meritocracy. To be honest, this case isn't the worst I've seen, by far, because at least this show has redeeming qualities (good production, humor).

You have the most leveled-headed point of view here, my friend. Others should learn to do the same without personal attacks on the actor, aka "twig" comments that just show immaturity.

I needed to watch this right after taking my adderall. There was no time for characters to even breathe. It's not the worst of the reels, but I hate this format with a passion. Why film and make it look like a legit drama but then put in a vertical aspect ratio that turns it into a crappy i-phone short? I really don't understand this pointless workflow. Just shoot it on i-phone to begin with, the vertical ratio already makes it experimental, not doing so just turns out a final mismatched product.

Yup, the fandom version of crack, lol. that's the exact meaning. It's originally Irish slang. the test card used for laughs still perfectly works in this show's context, imo, cause its so silly. 🤣

They use it basically as a transition between clips. Its not really used as a censoring tool but its become a joke. I also mean crack as in the Irish slang, btw. I realize that might've sounded confusing to others, another way to say it is funny compilation videos. Sometimes people use it after someone says something outlandish to mimic cutting the cameras, but it's more so used to make a quick cut (example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l57cInZ4Wg). They use this and static interchangeably. So, if anything, they might think its the same thing as tv static. It's really just a marker to let people know the video isn't serious and isn't meant for perfection, hence the mimicking of a weak signal or like flipping through tv channels. This test card and the tone sound are still available effects in most editing apps. I doubt they know the full context of it being used to test broadcast settings, though.

It's used in youtube crack videos all the time so young gens know about it that way.

Okay, this episode was hilarious. Taking him to a buffet and making him sleep on the floor 😭 "Is it hard?" "I'm too hot" I'm just enjoying Wu Suo Wei being a tease. Sometimes I buy that Chi Cheng likes being denied, other times I don't know how this game will plausibly continue.

Yes. Others are saying his hesitation is due to self-hate and internalized homophobia when the main reason is that he is a famous public figure. At that stage, it is not as easy to avoid defamation and harassment. Jeong U is not at that level of fame yet, and doesn't know. Ji Won wants to protect him, not hide him. Even in America, today, in the liberalist of states, openly gay male athletes have it extremely hard and their careers are threatened.

Both characters disagree on how to maintain privacy while trying to be together, and to be honest, their open communication is great. There is nothing wrong with either characters' behavior, I agree. This is more nuanced than simply "being stuck in the closet" for Ji Won, who literally just discovered he was gay. Ay caramba…

You pretty much nailed it on the head. I really don't understand the shy criticism. Ji Won is avoiding public scrutiny and scandal from the press and social media. He is laying low. That's the whole point of that hat, guys! Be serious now.

HOW is this sitting at 7.6? Lost In The Woods is one of the best Thai BLs I've ever seen. It does what so few do, show off the beautiful, diverse Thailand in all its majesty. The original music is a reprieve to the ears from that usual copyright free slop. A slow build that fleshes out the characters as they overcome adversity with poignant themes of rejection and self-love. Both leads are handsome, with my personal favorite flashy city boy and stoic woodsman combination. Amazing budget, production design, cinematography, sound, acting, everything really… We need a season 2. I know it doesn't have much in the way of sexuality, but the romantic tension and bonding is through the roof! If you appreciate salient coming of age romantic dramas then please watch this. This was so so good.

This was such a cute show, man ❤️ I will miss it.

I'm not kidding when I say this put me to sleep 💤 Seong Seung Ha (Jin Hwan) deserved better.