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No. He was in a purgatory, and they didn't spend "equal time" with the straight couple. I think the only reason people don't consider it a BL is because it was one of those body swap stories. Most of the story was spent with First and Ohm, but First was playing a girl inside a boys body. The rest of the time was spent in the Fluke-First story, in which First was still playing a girl trapped in a boy's body, but Fluke was in love with him (or her?). Then towards the end of the story we realize that Fluke's character had been in love with First's character before the body swap happened. He was gay, alright.

We are led to believe that the boy will come back to his own body and things will end up happily for everyone, until the very end. One of the last scenes is Fluke's character professing his love for First's character and it always makes me cry.

Anyway, for me, it was a BL. All the BL elements are there. And it was marketed as a BL.

Have you watched He's Coming To Me? That one is a BL with a bittersweet ending. The characters end up together but their eventual fate is pretty much not good. :O

You haven't watched The Shipper. It has a sad ending. Also, He's Coming To Me has a bittersweet ending. Not exactly super happy, but not real sad either.

Well, I asked for no Ms. Becky, Jelai or Chuckchuk but I know for a fact that 2 of those 3 did get into S2. So, I don't think my comment aged badly. :O :)

I am a Japanese learner too. I am also feeling like I know almost nothing, and I probably have or used to have a larger vocabulary in Japanese than in Thai. However, what I think help me progress a bit faster in Thai is that Thai is a bit easier than Japanese (except the tones!) and that I have used a bunch of different things to help me. But I think the biggest has been that I force myself to read and I look up meanings and listen to words. I think language learning has to be tackled from different angles. You have to force yourself.

I am in Brazil right now and I stupidly refused to learn any Portuguese before coming here thinking I can use my Spanish, which I am fully fluent. However, I found that my laziness has costed me as its making communication difficult. Next time I come here, I will be more prepared and I will learn some words in Portuguese. Anyway, just here a couple of days and I have picked up a few words and that has already helped a lot in my communication with the native speakers at restaurants and other places.

Sometimes, you just have to force yourself or be forced to learn it!


So keep trying! It is fun!!

They are the same. I actually don't like Mhok. The h is not pronounced and is just a tone marker. I think Mok is more correct.

(It is one of the hardest things in Thai that I still don't fully understand, but the Thai O and Thai H can be in front of a consonant cluster and they affect the tone of that consonant, so in a way they are like tone markers, but not really.)

Hi! Thanks. That is a bit flattering. I am not a Thai speaker. I am a student of Thai ;) Beautiful language and script. I can sort of read Thai and I recognize some words. One way I practice is by reading the names of the actors in the shows intro, so I pay a lot of attention to how the names are written and pronounced. I know how some of them are spelled in Thai. Its a hobby LOL I also love reading the text messages and I do sometimes catch things that are not subbed, like when a character uses Ai as a prefix when texting others. I forget who it was that stored the name of his love interest (love hate) as Ai Hia (you know what that means!) or when someones Mom's calls and you see Mom on the phone. Its kind of cool. It does make me feel a bit accomplished eventhought I can barely read Thai hahahaha

The L and R consonants both become N sounds when at the end of clusters (like syllables in Thai), and I 100% agree that it is much better to put an N in English, if that is the sound made. I don't get the Thai romanization. It is a cross between true transliteration and a vague transcription. Ford, Fourth and Forth are spelled differently but pronounced almost the same. In fact, I think Fourth and Forth are spelled the same in Thai and pronounced exactly the same (I could be wrong, so don't quote me. It may just be similar).

But alas, I am thankful for the subbing and the attempts at transliteration so I am grateful for what we have. I am by no means a language snub. I just like languages :)

I will be the bearer of bad news and tell you that Mork and Mhok and Mok are all the same word, หมอก can be transliterated as Mork or Mok. There is no R in this word. Listen closely how Thai pronounce it. The R is added in English to make the O different so it sounds closer to the Thai อ. I believe the H you are seeing in the subbing comes from the fact that there is a Thai ห in front of the M, which is really a tone modifier, but the ห sounds like an H in English, so maybe that's why.

Mork or Mok means fog, mist or the color gray. So, you have Fog and Day. Day can't see, Fog can. I have a feeling that Day can actually see things that Mok can't.

I think what happened here is that GMMTV decided to go with Mok as the official transliteration and so Jimmy changed it in his tweet. I like that decision because, as I said, there is no R. The O is just a bit shortened like the O in Lore.

As probably one of the biggest fanboys of this series ever, I am super excited.

I will most likely keep working on my goal of summarizing all of the original series episodes (I am up to season 2 episode 8).

If you are interested, I will most likely be comparing this series to the original, summarizing and analyzing this series on my blog: https://boyloveperusal.com/

Fair critiques. I have a friend who thinks there is something going on with New and GMMTV because everytime New makes something for GMMTV, it turns out boring and bland. However, the projects he has done on his own or for other channels, like My 12% or 7 Project, have been good (I personally loved the Peak/Boom and the Santa/Earth 7 Project). I think My 12% was good, but I know some ppl didn't like it because they didn't like Cooheart (Earth).

GMMTV just needs to aim for quality over quantity.

I don't think all of his work is poor, but that's a matter of taste. What I don't think should be in question is that he is one of the pioneers. Together with Andy Rachyd, and Cheewin Thanamin, they are sort of like the founding fathers of Thai BL. All three worked in Love Sick, which was the first proper Thai BL series. New directed Love By Chance, which was dropped by MCOT and picked up by LineTV and GMMTV. This cause a huge controversy and was a risky bet by all those involved. Love By Chance was a commercial success and the most watched series in Line TV until overtaken by 2Gether. All 3 of them also worked in Make It Right, which was the second Thai BL series proper and one of the first to be internationally successful. It also was the launch pad for Ohm Pawat's career. With the notable exception of Sotus, New Siwaj was involved in pretty much all the series that made the genere what it is today.

You may not like his directing style, but Thai people clearly did. I think he has more of a Thai style and appeals less to the international fanbase. His series do feel a bit more stock in the past.

Last little bit of BL trivia. The trio of New, Cheewin and P'Andy, also have been involved in helping launch the career of many of the most popular BL actors in Thailand: Earth, Phuwin, Neo, Ohm Pawat, Peak, Boom, White, Captain, Toptap, Gunsmile, Khaotung, Saint, Mean, Plan, Zeek, Drake, Frank, Gameplay, and Sing... I am sure I left a few.

I will say that lately, New and his company (Studio Wabisabi) have done the WORST series whenever he partners with GMMTV, so your prediction about this one going to be a stinker, may be true.

New (the director you are talking about) has done some good series (UWMA, My 12%, etc.) and some bad ones. He has also been involved in some historic ones too (Love Sick, Love By Chance and Make It Right). Personally, I don't think My Gear was that bad.

Besides, I had say to you Gypsy, "respect your elders" lol :) Without New, there would be no Thai BL. Look him up.

lol Good point

Re-read the sequence of comments. You are the one who turned this into an argument. I merely pointed out what the usual meaning of animated is. I proceeded with telling you my thoughts on the series, but you instead turned it into a "my opinion" argument.

I doubt it. Maybe if he did, it was a phase. Now he grew out of it.

We all want to be loved. We all yearn for company. Sleeping around gets old very quickly.

Nah. The one i used didnt. It was all on the cloud.

Brilliant acting by Neo... Subtle yet effective.

As someone who has dated enough guys to know a few Nicks and Bostons (or maybe I was a Boston or a Nick), I don't agree. Boston and Nick are made for each other. Nick is the guy who can make Boston stop being a man whore, because Nick is the guy who can make Boston see he is a person and not a f-toy. Boston is a man with serious self-esteem issues and right in that conversation Nick hits two key aspects for him: Boston's self-worth in terms of his talents as an artist, and Boston's fear that no one loves him.

For me that scene rates very high among all BL love confessions. It was beautiful. I almost shed a tear myself. :)