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I was wondering what you thought about it. Didnt see you share your thoughts in USA BL.

Yeah, uke reticence is strong on this one. ;)

I think we have seen a little bit of character development, with Eiw starting to feel like he can be on his own now. In the bridge he walks away from Cake and tells him, he wants to be alone (OK, he did ended up sleeping with his mom, but oh well).

I think JPNY01 point about Eiw being one dimensional is concerning. However, I am not sure any character here has been more than one dimensional for now. I am hopping we see other sides of Eiw as he grows and develops away from Cake.

I think that a lot of ukes in BL do have this defect of being a bit too much like damsels in distress, and because of that, they have little to them in terms of their personality. We see it all the time. There happiness hinges on the seme. The seme is everything, and the uke is two notches below. I can probably write a long list of ukes that are either completely one-dimensional or nearly one-dimensional: Gui in Oxygen, Khondiao in Cutie Pie, both secondary couple's ukes in 2gether, pretty much all the ukes in Oh My Sunshine Night, etc.

Not sure if you would agree, but that's how I see it. To me, Eiw is just another uke in that sense. I do hope to see some growth, but this BL is structured like a very classic BL, so this is something at least I am prepared to tolerate.

I am like you. I use to cry more often and now I rarely cry. That scene had me in tears and it was for real. When Cake says to Eiw, "Will you wake me up tomorrow morning?", I yelled out loud "Oh no! OMG". And then I started crying. I am still not sure why I yelled out loud, but I did. It was very emotional. I have never yelled out loud like that before. LOL

I am loving it. Yes, the pacing is a bit slow, though it just pick up in Ep 7, but it is delicious. That bridge scene had me in tears which is not something that is easily accomplished with me. Santa and Earth are a delicious acting combination.

Also Eiw is not the only one being childish. Cake is very irresponsible, has no self control, and can't even wake up on his own. Eiw is very maternal towards Cake. This is part of the dynamics they have set up, which is why, at least for me, it broke my heart when Cake says to Eiw, "will you wake me up tomorrow morning?". He doesn't need it, really, but he has come to rely on him. It is like he is letting himself be babied by Eiw because he loves him. I think that Eiw also lets Cake baby him.

You and I are watching two different series it seems. The story is not just about Eiw being sad. He has grown as a character and by the time we see him in the bridge scene, he walks out on Cake. Cake fears this new found independence, which is why he earlier wanted to regress to the old times and asked Eiw to jump on his back. Cake "babies" Eiw as much as Eiw behaves like a baby.

I think the issues you see with Eiw being like a child is pretty much an issue one could have with ANY BL. The Ukes are usually portrayed as childish and immature. Wayo in 2Moons, both ukes in Cutie Pie, most of the ukes in Love by Chance, etc. One of the few childish semes, gosh he was almost uke-like in his demeanor, was Solo in oxygen.

I think Earth gets a lot of hate because he is openly gay and behaves very effeminate. He is just not childish and annoying here, but also effeminate. While I don't necessarily find the behavior endearing, I can see how Cake likes Eiw because he is innocent, and I think that's what Earth is trying to portray. This was very evident in the scene by the water, when they were playing. Earth played Eiw as an innocent kid discovering how to play with rocks. Cake looks at him lovingly. I think the idea is that Cake loves this aspect of Eiw. IDK This is how I interpret what the actor and director are doing here.

I am enjoying this series very much. I love how it feels like a call back to the earlier BLs, not just because of the blue shorts, but because it is more about cute moments and intense feelings, than kisses and sex. For me, the bridge scene was brilliantly done. New is a master of this genre.

I agree with you. You are right on the money.

This has all kinds of plot holes and inconsistencies. Characters do and say things no one in real life would. It is all kinds of messed up.

Skip. Skip. Skip. Skip. Skip. Skip. Skip. Skip. Skip. Skip. Skip. Skip.

then, no. This is not very well written.

Cool! I think I saw your request. I added you. I am the admin! :) You will know because I post a lot. There is at least one more person from here, who is also a well known blogger (use to be back in the Love Sick days), in that FB group. I also have a blog and a podcast. It is a very active community.

It is a pretty chill environment. Feel free to jump in! I think folks will like your analysis. You are very good at picking things apart!!!

Oh I see. I think you are right about what the OP meant!!!!!

I agree with you. They took away the drama and made this part more confusing by choosing to have Jimmy and Sea play these characters all this time.

Good point. I think this would have worked better if they had more screentime, but the idea was definitely good.

Hi. I love your analysis. We are both on the same page here. I will add the editing here was a bit choppy. I found myself so many times wondering if I missed something. I think Jittirain has a bad habit of using tropes to develop her characters. Mame on the other hand is great at character development.

There were SOOO many things I didn't like about this episode.

Are you in the US or an American living abroad? If so, I invite you to join our facebook group, which is pretty analytical too ;) Only for US members: https://www.facebook.com/groups/333441421474451/

no, WE are able to see it. They are supposed to have seen that the whole time

The tub scene wasn't that bad, though I kept thinking who brings a pad to a tub full of water and soap. How are his hands dry? Just weird.

The kiss was a LITTLE awkward. I have seen worst. I think both actors are doing their best with the material given.

I like Sea a lot, but I agree with you. You are the first person I think that has hit the nail on the head. These two are very bland. It is like a very Vanilla relationship. I think they needed some tension. IDK why but I dont feel any tension was created. This series is more about them finding the portkey than it is about them finding each other. A pity, I think this could have been so much better if they focused on the romance instead of this weak and nonsensical attempt at world building.

really? I found it so awkward. Maybe we needed more screentime with them to see who they are and their relationship with Tun, but it felt very weird. Like, you know them for maybe a year, and you spend most of your time with your BF and friends (and working), and now you are all emotional about it because....? You are an orphan? Maybe?

And the dialogue was very awkward, especially the parents. Like, who talks like that IRL?

but this looks like an HS series. Those guys are too old to play HS.

I am not offering my take on the backstory. I am perhaps extrapolating from what was said. The girl said he had to work his whole life and that he lost his parents at a young age. I think the reason this is done is to throw Talay off. Why would he think, based on this, that Tun is a famous actor in the other universe? He is going to think what I talked about, that he is probably poor, that he is an orphan who had to work at a young age the kind of hard work people do to make a living with no education. She didn't say he is a trust fund kid. When you hear orphan and working since he was a kid, your though is not, oh he most be a superstar.

Yes, my last point works with the point I can't fathom because it is supposed to. She should have said something like that which is more generic and makes me feel more for the character. What I said I can't fathom is that colorism is so prevalent in Thailand, so it is obvious that a guy that looks like Thun or Puen is not a guy who had a hard life. I really want to know what she meant when she said he has worked all his life. Like, since he was a teen? At a supermarket? As a bagger? Did he buy a lot of sunscreen or that's more recent? How did he get into acting considering that it seems that in Thailand as a prerequisite you need money or connections?

Maybe I am asking too much realism from a series in which staring at a candle until it melts is supposed to be a birthday tradition. :D Oh, Jittirain.

I hate how that series ended, but it is totally worth a rewatch even if it stumps all over my fudanshi heart ;) My kokoro can't take that ending! But it is SOOOOO Good otherwise!!!!

Ok. Thanks for the link. I think that TBH, that is just pure fanservice. I don't think it means he wouldn't do another BL. He just wants to make it sound like there is something special between him and Nanon, so the fans go crazy. So, let's hope I am right and that he does another BL because I just can't imagine BL without him LOL :) (On the other hand, I do agree he should go on to do other projects. I think Ohm is very good and should do other type of work. I would hope one day he will direct or produce or write too!).