I am on episode 11 and other than a couple of ForthBeam scenes and one great MingKit scene, I find this underwhelming, full of cliches and totally corny. I haven't watch 2moons but 2moons2 is definitely forgettable.
Agree! However, I thought this was better than dramas such as Itazura that portray smart, handsome boy falls for…
OK. I was more concerned about your description of her, "she is not a genius but a hard worker", "once she stops studying...when he leaves her... her grades automatically fall", and henceforth "this is more towards the normal curve"
I thought you were saying that women, unlike men, have to work hard to be geniuses.
To me that's where the stereotype is in Asian series. The men are shown to be inherently good at things (be it sports or math), while the women are shown as being studious. I for once would like to see the tables turned..... I am sure there are exceptions but it is something I have noticed... (Well, in Accidentally in Love, the boy is kind of dumb and she is a genius so I think that one is sort of reversed in that sense but stereotypes did abound on that one too).
Perhaps this series will show healthy relationships but we already start with strong sexist stereotypes: the guy is a math genius, she is from a well-to-do family. He is athletic and popular, she is the student monitor.
Leave it to C-dramas to always insert some type of heteronormative stereotype, ugh.
I say this but I have watched C-dramas and J-dramas too. One of my favorites is Itazura na Kiss, which is full of this types of cliches (and super unhealthy relationships), so a drama with a healthy relationship is something we welcome.
Have you watched Accidentally in Love? I thought the female lead was not your stereotypical lead. So far, that has been the only C-drama I have been able to finish from first to last episode (it is also short!).
This is the best series of the year for me. I really like Tian's character. In real life this would never happen,…
LOL I had the same flashback to the Shipper.... I fell in love with Fluke's character after not liking him for half of the series only to have him not get the happy ending he deserved.
In summary, are you saying that if you could rewrite the whole episode, along with some of the initial premises…
I have a slightly different take on the episode...
I really liked the episode. I did had a bit of an issue with two things you mentioned: Phupa going through Tian's things and Tian risking Longtae's life. As far as Doctor-Patient privilege goes, I don't know the laws in Thailand so I have no opinion on that.
I think that this episode was a very unique episode in the BL genera. In the last couple of years, we have been given a lot of externally-driven conflict dramas. Here the turmoil and conflict is mostly internal. We don't get the typical girlfriend interference (Lovesick, MIR's main couple, 2Moons, 2Gether, TonHon, etc.), parental interference (Lovesick, TonHon, Love of Siam and so many other movies), moving away (Gameboys, Your Home, and I am sure a couple more I forget!), and the "Am I gay?" internal musings from the Uke (SOTUS, Lovesick, MIR, My Engineer, Gameboys) or from the Seme (TonHon is the only one I can think of... maybe My Engineer?). No. This time is all about a character who just can't find himself. Tian is lost and has fallen into a dark place. In that dark place, he sees himself as being guilty for Torfun's death. He tells everyone he is guilty of her death. He also has lied to everyone about a lot of things. When he came in, he was this outsider that feared rejection so he used Torfun's notes to find things that would help him be liked by the villagers. Maybe he wanted to eventually tell them he had her heart, and play into this fantasy that somehow her heart had allowed him to know all this things about the villagers and Phupa. We should also take note of the fact that he did not reveal the fact that he had the diary to anyone. Longtae and Phupa found out but I don't think he told anyone and he definitely omitted that truth when he was doing his big reveal to the villagers.
This director has a penchant for overtly dramatic climaxes. I don't think this was as melodramatic as HCTM, for example or as over blown as DBK's climax.
Only thing that was a bit too much for me was when Phupa gets shot. It was also your stereotypical Seme protects the Uke... Meh....
I don't find the fact that she died the night he had the heart attack to be an unbelievable coincidence. It is a convenient coincidence but one that sets up an interesting conundrum: Tian has received a heart from someone who dies indirectly due to his penchant for living life to the extreme and in disregard of others. Torfun is his polar opposite: a person who is giving, who thinks first of others before she thinks of herself. She values the time she spends with people, not how many cars she has or the clothes she wears. Now Tian embarks on a journey to find out who Torfun is, and lives her life so she can honor her death. He essentially takes over her life, or at least one important aspect of her life, so he can continue her work which he knows mattered a lot to her....
So I think this episode offered a fitting climax. Forgiveness is one of the central themes in this series and it was an important aspect of this episode. I think the drama was necessary to drive the plot forward.
Or maybe my bar for melodrama is much lower due to all the Asian series I watch. LOL
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Yes, this is the longest same-cast Thai BL ever. 48 episodes plus Reminders. About 50 hours. Its a marathon lol
Love sick is beautiful.
You must have also missed what is IMO the most quotable line of any BL EVER:
Jeed: Noh are you gay?
Noh: I call it LOVE
Try to find another BL with that much of a punch in one single line. I dare you.
I thought you were saying that women, unlike men, have to work hard to be geniuses.
To me that's where the stereotype is in Asian series. The men are shown to be inherently good at things (be it sports or math), while the women are shown as being studious. I for once would like to see the tables turned..... I am sure there are exceptions but it is something I have noticed... (Well, in Accidentally in Love, the boy is kind of dumb and she is a genius so I think that one is sort of reversed in that sense but stereotypes did abound on that one too).
[Rolls eyes loudly]
OK
I haven't watched this so my opinion is limited to the description above but I guess I read "math genius" and I roll my eyes loudly. Lol.
I watch mostly BLs so I am used to stereotypes but of a different kind.
Watch Accidentally in Love! Fiction is such a cutie in this and the FL and ML have just really good chemistry!!!
Leave it to C-dramas to always insert some type of heteronormative stereotype, ugh.
I say this but I have watched C-dramas and J-dramas too. One of my favorites is Itazura na Kiss, which is full of this types of cliches (and super unhealthy relationships), so a drama with a healthy relationship is something we welcome.
Have you watched Accidentally in Love? I thought the female lead was not your stereotypical lead. So far, that has been the only C-drama I have been able to finish from first to last episode (it is also short!).
I really liked the episode. I did had a bit of an issue with two things you mentioned: Phupa going through Tian's things and Tian risking Longtae's life. As far as Doctor-Patient privilege goes, I don't know the laws in Thailand so I have no opinion on that.
I think that this episode was a very unique episode in the BL genera. In the last couple of years, we have been given a lot of externally-driven conflict dramas. Here the turmoil and conflict is mostly internal. We don't get the typical girlfriend interference (Lovesick, MIR's main couple, 2Moons, 2Gether, TonHon, etc.), parental interference (Lovesick, TonHon, Love of Siam and so many other movies), moving away (Gameboys, Your Home, and I am sure a couple more I forget!), and the "Am I gay?" internal musings from the Uke (SOTUS, Lovesick, MIR, My Engineer, Gameboys) or from the Seme (TonHon is the only one I can think of... maybe My Engineer?). No. This time is all about a character who just can't find himself. Tian is lost and has fallen into a dark place. In that dark place, he sees himself as being guilty for Torfun's death. He tells everyone he is guilty of her death. He also has lied to everyone about a lot of things. When he came in, he was this outsider that feared rejection so he used Torfun's notes to find things that would help him be liked by the villagers. Maybe he wanted to eventually tell them he had her heart, and play into this fantasy that somehow her heart had allowed him to know all this things about the villagers and Phupa. We should also take note of the fact that he did not reveal the fact that he had the diary to anyone. Longtae and Phupa found out but I don't think he told anyone and he definitely omitted that truth when he was doing his big reveal to the villagers.
This director has a penchant for overtly dramatic climaxes. I don't think this was as melodramatic as HCTM, for example or as over blown as DBK's climax.
Only thing that was a bit too much for me was when Phupa gets shot. It was also your stereotypical Seme protects the Uke... Meh....
I don't find the fact that she died the night he had the heart attack to be an unbelievable coincidence. It is a convenient coincidence but one that sets up an interesting conundrum: Tian has received a heart from someone who dies indirectly due to his penchant for living life to the extreme and in disregard of others. Torfun is his polar opposite: a person who is giving, who thinks first of others before she thinks of herself. She values the time she spends with people, not how many cars she has or the clothes she wears. Now Tian embarks on a journey to find out who Torfun is, and lives her life so she can honor her death. He essentially takes over her life, or at least one important aspect of her life, so he can continue her work which he knows mattered a lot to her....
So I think this episode offered a fitting climax. Forgiveness is one of the central themes in this series and it was an important aspect of this episode. I think the drama was necessary to drive the plot forward.
Or maybe my bar for melodrama is much lower due to all the Asian series I watch. LOL