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I know what you mean. I saw your comment on another board, and you'll know what I mean when I say its been about 4 years for me since my former partner passed on . I can't watch tragedies either, and I watch BL's for their bubbly positivity. I think I was traumatized by History 3, MODC for several months, and still get depressed thinking about that show. I'm going to finish this one because I'm a little OCD, and have recovered a little bit.

The break up of Gun and Golf is just too quick. Anyone that's been in a long term committed relationship should see some warning signs before the idea of a break up actually comes up. These screenwriters who are always ready to create angst, don't build up anything. How can Golf not see any of the warning signs? Can't he just look at Gun one day and say something like, "What's wrong, Gun? You look upset about something?" He just seems like he's completely baffled by Gun's statement. Golf should also have some opportunity to rectify the problem, before Gun just throws in the towel on their relationship. This is just more terrible writing. It's just that the screenwriters rush everything in their desire to create angst wherever they can.

It's just a weird BL with virtually no romance, even among a gay "married" couple. I just feel kind of numb at this point. The storylines always seem to change and there is no clear narrative to any of the stories. The emotions we get vested in are rapidly replaced by other ones and there is no resolution to some angst that occurs in previous episodes because the cause of the angst suddenly disappears. This happened with all the stories. Name's selective mutism is completely cured, and it looks like he's going to an online school. Nan completely wins over Chompu - all he had to do was find her address, apparently. Champ forgives his family after a year, no questions asked. Even in the story of Gun and Golf, they forget about their weird separation in minutes, and instantly become boyfriends. It's all poor storytelling. No one is made to process their emotions in an organic way. The past trauma just disappears to be replaced with new trauma. Why should I feel sad for Golf now when he's about to break up with Gun? Golf will probably just say he's sorry, and will be taken back in a matter of seconds. This series makes you not want to feel any emotions because your emotions are just being toyed with. Now I've learned to not care about anything that happens to these characters, so I feel like I've totally wasted my time. In a way, I'm hoping for a clear cut tragedy so there are some consequences for people's actions. I also wish there had been more BL content in this series, so overall, just a big waste of time, except for the fact that they had a few new ideas that other people can use to build a better BL in the future. The time jumps, excessive number of characters / storylines and THE WIGS are all disastrous choices, along with the terrible music. I wouldn't recommend this series to anyone, unless you're a content creator looking for a slightly different format for making a BL. But new is not better, and this show definitely proves that point.

I wish Winny could get his own series, he's cute asf, and really would be just so perfect for a BL lead.

But speaking of this series, that scene where Gun is tickling Tinn's chin was just cuteness overload for me. This series just gives me the BL palpitations ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

This show is just incredible. This is what a BL should be - it's light, fun, and full of romantic moments. Real top notch music production in this series. I love Tinn staring into Gun's eyes, and their dancing scenes were done beautifully. This is the best romcom since Bad Buddy, and I'm just enjoying every minute of it. It just seems that everything about it is just thought out, unlike all the horrible GMMTV BL's like Enchante. The dialogue is not just repetitive, mumbo-jumbo, but really witty, and well timed. The pacing is really perfect, even if the content is not substantial which is a feat in itself. Really a BL made with love and passion. At this level of execution, I'm sure the whole series will continue to be very decent.

Pond looked super hot as a fisherman. I wish they could just have a BL set with a bunch of day laborers. I think a fishing boat internship would be far more interesting than watching another BL set in a university - I like the uniforms a lot better.

I'm watching this suspending a lot of disbelief which happens with virtually every BL I watch. My suspension of disbelief muscles are getting tired. Can someone just please make a BL that is like 1 percent realistic, and I mean just fictional novel/screenplay realistic. I don't know how Neungdiao has just moved on so quickly from grieving for his father. I think we skipped a few steps and moved on to just acceptance, and then to, I got to start decorating my new apartment.

That piano was just a piece of crap. As a pianist I feel offended. That sounded like grandma's piano from the 1920's that no one tuned in 80 years. The father might have been assassinated by someone from the music department. Honestly, what millionaire donates garbage like that ?

Phuwin's English was sexy. I already knew he spoke fluent English from interviews, but we have to have him speak more here - this is important, because, I don't know, but I want it. So please, let's have some more sexy English dialogue apropos of nothing. At least his professional English is way better than the shaky plot.

Those clothes Peat wears while doing fanservice are quite racy. I wonder what that's about. It's really totally unlike the character in this series. Maybe he'll be starring in a very steamy new series with Prapai with a more sexual character than in this series - I would be all for that.

Did anyone else notice that Gap is smiling while they are carting his father off to the ER? What's up with that? He almost seems like he's about to break out laughing while his father looks like he's having a heart attack. That has to be one of the worst editing fails I've ever seen in a series.

I don't know what to feel about this last episode. It just seems all over the place. We almost had the worst accidental kiss in BL history with Shogun and Maitoh, some needless last minute drama with the father, a slimy redemption arc for Kanoon, and some more unnecessary drama with the falling ladder at the end. Those scene with Kanoon are especially unnecessary, and really make me want to throw up. She needs intensive care in a psychiatric hospital.

Yikes! There is no time for all this with one episode to go. I'm just hoping for a kiss with Shogun and Maitoh at the end. It will all be worth it if that happens.

I feel for Namwah. That crazy Kanoon, what a betrayal of trust! This is like finding out your best friend is a cannibal. Just imagine a dinner at Kanoon's house:
Namwah: What are we eating? This is delicious!
Kanoon: It's Maipai. Could you pass the salt, please?
Namwah: Squeak!
Kanoon: Stop looking at me that way. All you ever do is look at him from far away. Now you get to experience him up close and personal.
Namwah: I can never forgive you Kanoon! How could you? Ok, ok...but we've been friends for so long. [several seconds pass where Namwah sits in contempative silence]. I've thought about it - I can do this, sis. Let's become friends, again.
Kanoon: Nah, it's probably gonna make you look bad. Besides, I'm going to get hungry again...

I felt like someone slipped Newie some psychedelic medicine with that alcohol. He was already warping through the universe before he took the pictures.

I like Newie in this. He seems to be much looser than in his previous few shows - god, he was like the funeral director in Comments. He was just so stiff in Dark Blue Kiss as well. It's just a totally harmless comic romp of a show and has been very entertaining so far. It has a lot homoeroticism, and a GL side couple so it's really reaching out to everyone, and I appreciate that. Perhaps shows in the future should be more inclusive like this. Outside of the BL crowd, not many people are exposed to gay couples. I know they exist in some Western shows, but it's nice to see it in a Thai show, and will really help spread tolerance to a wider audience.

Much appreciated :-)

They just waste so much time in this series on nonsense. The whole hunt for Champu should have been condensed and we could have more time for the story of Gulf and Gun's fathers. And as many have already mentioned on here, there are just too many characters to begin with. It could still be done, but they really needed to utilize every moment, and things should happen during these time jumps like real developments in the story, but it's like the time jumps mean nothing. I've never seen time jumps like this. I got to hand it to them, they created a series that is unique, but only in a bad way. And dear god, the wigs are just out of control. It's almost like they're on drugs - I was only half kidding about that.

I agree. I don't watch the ratings that much except in a general way. Like if something is an 8.0 or better I feel it is probably going to be better. I just never have seen a series that is this good get such a low rating, and it feels unfair. I don't look at the ratings that much but some people do and they might just avoid this series because of the really low rating. I'm just commenting on here just hoping that people could be warned that this particular rating is more biased than normal.

I just love the writing in this series and the actors have all been excellent, going far beyond the normal BL limits, playing well-rounded, complex characters. I think the last story was done as well as the rest. Achi was not a great guy, and it's to be expected that Most would break up with him, but it's more complex than that, because Most realizes that Achi provided him with a lot of inspiration as he says during the awards ceremony. Even if they were not meant to be lovers, he appreciates the good in Achi. Achi was a flawed friend, and there was definitely some part of him that loved Most. It pained him that he hurt Most, and some part of him regrets not being his lover. I did pity Achi at the end because he did not have friends and he lost the only friends he had. I don't see him as being as evil as most people see him on here. He loved two people at the same time, and lost both of them because of it. I think people should pity him for that. Was the relationship too toxic to continue? Probably, but it just might be that Most made a mistake leaving Achi, and I feel this is an open-ended question at the end. I think Achi did have the potential to grow into someone that could become a real lover for Most, but it might take years for them to discover that. It's just the wonderful complexity of this series.

Sometimes this series is too clever, like in the ending of the war of the managers, and the writers are a little too vested in making every character have a dark side, but a lot of times, they are doing it right and making a nice mix of characters that reflect the real world. I think Achi and Most reflect that balance, and I appreciate their story a great deal.

This whole series has been a wild ride. I can't think of anything in the BL world that stimulated so much thought, and made such a brilliant attempt to humanize the characters in the BL industry. I felt these were people that were fully alive, full of crushing anxieties, deep despair, overwhelming conceit, deluded vanity, excessive passion, and tempestous ardour. These are the people in the movie industry, and they were really brought fully to life in this series. It was a massive effort and everyone should be fully drained having gone through this, more than any melodrama because the real world is far more dramatic than any movie - the feelings in it are more substantial, and wrap themselves around your mind in a way that you won't forget.

There's always one. What boat of misery are you sailing?

I know, that was the only relief in that bleak show.

Gun's father is so mysterious. I thought he would have had some reaction to his son having a gay husband - just anything! He just seems like he was completely tuned out. You have to think the screenwriters just totally forgot to do anything with this character that seemed so temperamental earlier on. Maybe he wasn't going to be homophobic, and totally accepting so it would have been nice if they showed him being unexpectedly welcoming of his new gay son-in-law, but he's just standing there like a mannequin. They also totally threw away the opportunity of having some exciting drama develop between the two fathers who seem like total opposites. These screenwriters for this series are a mysterious and eccentric bunch with all their wig shenanigans, and endless, meaningless time jumps. I want to know what drugs they're on - I don't think normal humans think like them. I could imagine them during one of their writing sessions: "Yo bro, wigs are so cool, you can't have enough of these shaggy wigs man, don't you think? Let's put them in every episode, and we'll keep adding new ones- that's like genius."

He also played one in The Effect

The first part of this was really gripping. I was surprised that Team still has the audacity to yell at Win after he saves his life, but it's good that Win didn't hit him at that point [violence would just traumatize Team]. Team really did need at least the threat of being hit, though, for still being so obstinate.

Win hugging him afterwards was the best moment in the series, and this is what really gets through to Team. I think they both acted out this scene to perfection. That trembling kiss that Win gives him was just right, and Prem really showed some acting finesse in that scene. I really believe Team is being portrayed here as someone with very low self-esteem who can't believe that anyone would be interested in him, possibly because of his past. He wants to project his insecurities onto Win, saying that he basically can't be trusted and is just using him no matter what Win does to prove the contrary. I think that this barrier has finally dissolved in this episode, and it happened with Win's insistence on how shattered he would be if Team died, saying to him that it was just like he was dying when he saw Team drowning. I think this with the fact that he almost died, lets Team break through the facade of his rejection of Win.

Later on, it seems Win is the one erecting barriers to prevent their relationship. That was also a great scene where he was talking to Dean expressing how he can't love anyone because he's afraid of losing them. It was a really powerful speech. He really expressed how he felt like he would be shattered at the loss of Team. Dean was trying to get Win to tell him about whether he loves Team or not and he finally maneuvers him into admitting it. It's just great writing, and Win captured the moment with a lot of dynamic acting, looking flustered, anxious, and depressed all in quick succession.

Really a great episode, and the best of the series so far.