This is just adorable. The relationship between Win and Team - I could just watch it for 20 more episodes. I love how Team says HIAAAAAA with his pouty face, begging Win for some affection. These guys are just so natural together. It's some of the best chemistry out there.
I liked the way Win was talking about his relationship with Dean this episode. It's just refreshing to talk about a gay relationship like it's no big deal, and the easy nonchalance of everyone in that room was just kind of a release for me. I don't know how many gay dramas I've watched where the relationships are discussed like they're life and death situations.
I wonder why Golf never told Art about what he did to him? I guess he chickened out. It seemed like he agreed to what Gus told him to do, because he was serious about Art. Overall, I'm really enjoying this whole drama. It's very cute, amusing, and suspenseful. I look forward to it every week, and Golf and Art are very pleasant to look at. Hopefully they run out of shirts or something- I need to see Golf's chest again.
This is just a punishing level of angst. I don't think I've seen any BL that is this sad. Name doesn't have any help for his situation, and he must be totally traumatized at this point. He probably is suffering from severe depression and anxiety, and now his mother dies, or is severely ill. I just wish this torture for this character would end, and I see no point in it - we don't watch BL's to get experiences similar to Schindler's List. These writers are doing nothing but creating unlimited angst to make us invested in the drama, but their excessiveness has made us all numb.
I do want to see what happens with Name and the others, but I hate the way they are executing this plot. They need more logic, and less emotion in virtually every scene. Nothing ever makes sense, and the sadness is just cloying at this point.
We made some important discoveries this episode: Golf and Gun are two asexual men, struggling in a hyper-sexualized world. The temple is their safespace. Golf is like EWWWW Gun, do you have to touch me??!! I'm only trying to help you walk. Oh, right, thanks for being such a helpful organism.
We also discover that Golf is mentally challenged. Only now does he figure out that Gun is Mr. 8 -obviously he has the mental ablities of someone less than 5 years old.
I really thought I saw a different ending than a lot of people on here. It seemed very well done, and a provided a lot of needed resolutions to this drama.
This series started off very choppy because the source material is just weird. They basically had to deconstruct the characters of Mangkorn and Yai so that we could even have characters that we could possibly care about. The initial characters are just so toxic that we would never have sympathized with them. They were two alpha-male man whores with a chip on their shoulder. The screenplay writers used the barest crumbs of ideas from the novel, like the original names of the characters, and some of their initial characteristics - now they switched those character-traits to becoming secondary ones, so that Magkorn and Yai have a very sensitive side that would be used to develop the characters into the one's we love by the end, and they let them grow and develop to shed almost all of the toxic traits we find at the beginning of the series. What was really good about this is that we really see an exciting and very dynamic change in their characters, a transition that is much more dramatic than most any other BL. We also see a great enemies to lovers trope that, in a parallel way, was very dramatic, and probably the biggest transition in BL history - two guys that started with rape-like sex, and blackmail becoming one of the most romantic and intimate couples by the end of the series.
This ending had a lot of touching moments, starting with the scene at the mom's deathbed. That was done very effectively and tastefully. Now we know the context of Yai's anger toward his new aunt because the mom is portrayed so well, and anyone would want to protect her memory. At the funeral scene we see Yai's father honor her memory, placing the asters on her gravesite, and Yai was touched enough that he sees that his father hasn't forgotten his mom while going after his new love interest. Very well done. Yai finally let's go of the hatred for his aunt and welcomes her into the family.
Mangkorn had a life long ambition to get his masters in his profession. He's very passionate about his career, but he just started his relationship with Yai, and is deeply torn and expresses it very well. He even tells Yai he won't go if he doesn't want him to. Yai understands how important this choice is for Mangkorn and let's him go, because that is the best expression of love - not to be selfish and to desire that your partner fulfill their dreams even if it requires a little sacrifice. They played this resolution just right. I've been in a relationship where I've had to make this same decision, being separated from my partner by several thousand miles, and it is very difficult to be without the person you love the most while having to pursue your career. I felt exactly the way Mangkorn felt in this scene.
Yai and Nine have to settle the feelings that they have for each other. Yai does it in a very classy way, and neither says anything hurtful, maintaining their friendship while understanding that Yai is only going to pursue Mangkorn as his boyfriend. They hardly had to say any words, and that was tastefully done.
When Magkorn comes back, with a wonderful and appropriate slo-mo dramatic entrance, he comes back with flowers to express fully his love in a romantic way, which true partners would. It's not about the sex, although they did say they were going to have a lot of it later on. He was also very romantic in sending him the flowers without even telling Yai about it, just to express his selfless love to him - it was a very sweet touch in this screenplay.
All in all, every loose end was tied up in the finale, and all done very well. There was still a lot of romance conveyed here at the same time, so I have no idea what the complaining is about. Even the story of the bodyguards, and the bar are given some resolution which showed a good attention to detail that is often missing in these Thai BL's. I thought this was a great ending and was the best episode of the series. I'll just have to respectfully disagree with those who found it boring or not compelling. This series has ended, for me, as being one of the best BL's of the year, and the screenplay writers did an awesome job salvaging it from the scraps they started with.
I know this is almost a dumb question but does the show have a happy ending? LOL
uh...no. Does this comment really need a spoiler tag? To be fair, I'm not totally certain but it's 99 percent likely that this will not be a happy ending. Well if it is a happy ending then it will be like we all won the lottery ;-)
I was not a fan of this show at the beginning, especially the first 3 episodes, which were are all disjointed, and had elements of blackmail and rape, but this has completely turned around. I think that might have been the effect of trying to translate a porn novel with virtually no plot into a workable screenplay. What I like about it in the last two episodes is the real intensity of the relationship - the chemistry is on fire. This has to have some of the most physical intimacy of any BL I've ever seen. It seemed to be like non-stop for the last twenty minutes, and had just a lot of variety. They just acted it out so well like they were really into each other, more than any other couple I've seen in BL's. This was at the level of a normal het drama from Hollywood, and lasted much longer. I think anyone that likes BL's really appreciate when actors are allowed to roleplay these scenes without all these weird artificial barriers, like separating the leads by 3 or more feet from each other. I loved that they switched from the bath tub, to the motel, presenting a contrast between an artistic orchestrated romantic setting, to just a mundane one, and having an equal amount of intensity in both.
This is not all about the sex either. There are just moments like when they were at the pier and Mangkorn just asks Yai to give him a chance - that soulful way Yai looks at him just seemed so real, and full of adoration, and he switches soon afterwards to a more playful look. These are all the interactions of a real couple and are captured perfectly. Just wonderful acting, and some of the best acting as a couple I've seen anywhere, BL or otherwise.
This drama has really become one of the best. It's cinematography was always top notch, and it has a wonderful playful quality to it, including the hilarious chop stick fight this episode. This series is ending by becoming one of the best BL's of the year, and I would highly recommend it to anyone. The OST is also among the best of any BL I've ever seen - really more exploratory, and more innovative than any other OST this year.
Episode 7 was so very sweet with such beautiful cinematography. BUT... I would had loved it more without the slow…
That's interesting that Bank feels discriminated against. There are a few other half-Thai actors that are really doing very well in this business. The actor Fluke who plays Gawin in Not Me, and Mork in Dark Blue Kiss seems to have done very well - those are some of the highest rated dramas with no lack of sponsorship deals. Also the actor Drake, who plays various characters including one on 2gether, 1000 Stars, and Bad Buddy also does rather well and doesn't seem to be discriminated against as far as I can tell. But it is possible you're right, because some people might have avoided this discrimination by one means or another. I just hope this trend improves in the future, just like we see greater acceptance of LGBTQ+ platforms in these BL dramas.
I'm counting the days till Christmas, and this show should end right about then. Dear Santa, all I want for Christmas is if one of the male leads from this show could just accidentally trip while at a retail store and kiss a hot male mannequin on the lips. Dear Lord, I just need SOMETHING in this drama.
I don't need imaginary scenes like at the beginning [what was that?], telling me that gay sex is just imaginary. I'm not excited by all these wacky wigs, and people eating fries with ice cream. But at least Shogun took his shirt off- my god that was actually hot. I'll have to be satisfied with these crumbs. Why did I ever get into this? F*ck you Youtube algorithm, you betrayed me.
This was an incredible BL. It had a powerful intensity, and the acting was just among the best of any BL I've ever seen, partly because the roles were so challenging. Khao really dominated the first half with his effortless ability to play a mult-faceted character that took on the whole school, while struggling with clinical depression. In the second part First had the more challenging role due to the trauma of having to leave his cult-like role as the head prefect, and accepting his gay identity. This was a riveting performance by both the ML's. Despite what many have said on here, the plot was actually very good - it was full of suspense and drama while balancing that with the romantic interactions of the ML's and the secondary couple. Some people went in with unrealistic expectations that this should be something like Manner of Death with a lot of action I guess, but if you just experience the show without preconceptions, every episode is enjoyable with multi-layered psychological, philosophical, and romantic aspects fused together in a very satisfying way. This is also what made the drama constantly entertaining. This is definitely GMMTV's best drama of the year - it's really not even close. It's also, overall, one of the best BL's dramas this year, with only a couple of other BL's even coming close to it.
Apparently this show is caught in a paradox, the time line flies apparently years pass by in a matter of seconds…
That's what I've been saying for 3 episodes - these healthy young men just acting like nuns with vows of chastity. What the heck?! I like how JaFirst were f*cking like bunnies in Don't Say No, and now they've been completely virginized. I laughed so hard the way you said it - that was hilarious 🤣🤣🤣
Still one of the best BL's ever made. A whole year has gone by and there still is virtually nothing that's been as good as this. I actually don't know anything that was better. In its entirety, it was a really fantastic journey, and I hope there will be at least a special or some continuation of this. It's not a complex story but it was executed nearly perfectly. The acting and chemistry of the leads was just spectacular and the kissing scene is still legendary. I really liked the deep psychological exploration of the character's motives, and still believe there's nothing that's approached it. Its like an intense level of detail that was beyond any other BL, and very few dramas of any kind - really very skillful writing by the screenwriters. P'Aof also did a masterful job of pulling everything together for this series. I'm looking forward to anything he puts out in the future, and hope he has some ideas for this series going forward.
I honestly believe it's a very sad drama. It's just a terrible mistake to have the main character live forever trapped in the body of a Teddy Bear watching his one true love making love to another man in front of him for the rest of his existence. This is just a bizarre ending when Tofu had saved everyone prior to killing himself. There is no explanation, or real justification for this - it's just like a mistake in judgement by the screenwriters. I've always said you can write your own ending to this series and stop watching this at episode 14. In the novel, Tarn and Tofu aren't even connected by any spiritual link so you can justify the new ending you make for this series. It would really be much more fulfilling than the one they ended up making.
In my previous comment I pointed out that the movie Hello Stranger that was mentioned in a conversation between…
Agree completely. This is a slophouse script where the director and writers are oblivious to details. They had good ideas but their execution is very amateurish except for a few moments here and there. The time skips are just out of control and are barely addressed - it’s almost laughable at this point. Was a 2 year time jump even necessary? It felt totally unwarranted.
Can it be that this series is a bit of anachronistic? The technology and stuff looks like 1990ies.In the one of…
In my previous comment I pointed out that the movie Hello Stranger that was mentioned in a conversation between Name and N came out in 2010. I think that with the talk of Obama running in 2008 by Mean in a previous episode, and considering the two year time gap that just occurred this last episode, that the college years occur between 2008-2010.
I liked the way Win was talking about his relationship with Dean this episode. It's just refreshing to talk about a gay relationship like it's no big deal, and the easy nonchalance of everyone in that room was just kind of a release for me. I don't know how many gay dramas I've watched where the relationships are discussed like they're life and death situations.
I do want to see what happens with Name and the others, but I hate the way they are executing this plot. They need more logic, and less emotion in virtually every scene. Nothing ever makes sense, and the sadness is just cloying at this point.
We also discover that Golf is mentally challenged. Only now does he figure out that Gun is Mr. 8 -obviously he has the mental ablities of someone less than 5 years old.
This series started off very choppy because the source material is just weird. They basically had to deconstruct the characters of Mangkorn and Yai so that we could even have characters that we could possibly care about. The initial characters are just so toxic that we would never have sympathized with them. They were two alpha-male man whores with a chip on their shoulder. The screenplay writers used the barest crumbs of ideas from the novel, like the original names of the characters, and some of their initial characteristics - now they switched those character-traits to becoming secondary ones, so that Magkorn and Yai have a very sensitive side that would be used to develop the characters into the one's we love by the end, and they let them grow and develop to shed almost all of the toxic traits we find at the beginning of the series. What was really good about this is that we really see an exciting and very dynamic change in their characters, a transition that is much more dramatic than most any other BL. We also see a great enemies to lovers trope that, in a parallel way, was very dramatic, and probably the biggest transition in BL history - two guys that started with rape-like sex, and blackmail becoming one of the most romantic and intimate couples by the end of the series.
This ending had a lot of touching moments, starting with the scene at the mom's deathbed. That was done very effectively and tastefully. Now we know the context of Yai's anger toward his new aunt because the mom is portrayed so well, and anyone would want to protect her memory. At the funeral scene we see Yai's father honor her memory, placing the asters on her gravesite, and Yai was touched enough that he sees that his father hasn't forgotten his mom while going after his new love interest. Very well done. Yai finally let's go of the hatred for his aunt and welcomes her into the family.
Mangkorn had a life long ambition to get his masters in his profession. He's very passionate about his career, but he just started his relationship with Yai, and is deeply torn and expresses it very well. He even tells Yai he won't go if he doesn't want him to. Yai understands how important this choice is for Mangkorn and let's him go, because that is the best expression of love - not to be selfish and to desire that your partner fulfill their dreams even if it requires a little sacrifice. They played this resolution just right. I've been in a relationship where I've had to make this same decision, being separated from my partner by several thousand miles, and it is very difficult to be without the person you love the most while having to pursue your career. I felt exactly the way Mangkorn felt in this scene.
Yai and Nine have to settle the feelings that they have for each other. Yai does it in a very classy way, and neither says anything hurtful, maintaining their friendship while understanding that Yai is only going to pursue Mangkorn as his boyfriend. They hardly had to say any words, and that was tastefully done.
When Magkorn comes back, with a wonderful and appropriate slo-mo dramatic entrance, he comes back with flowers to express fully his love in a romantic way, which true partners would. It's not about the sex, although they did say they were going to have a lot of it later on. He was also very romantic in sending him the flowers without even telling Yai about it, just to express his selfless love to him - it was a very sweet touch in this screenplay.
All in all, every loose end was tied up in the finale, and all done very well. There was still a lot of romance conveyed here at the same time, so I have no idea what the complaining is about. Even the story of the bodyguards, and the bar are given some resolution which showed a good attention to detail that is often missing in these Thai BL's. I thought this was a great ending and was the best episode of the series. I'll just have to respectfully disagree with those who found it boring or not compelling. This series has ended, for me, as being one of the best BL's of the year, and the screenplay writers did an awesome job salvaging it from the scraps they started with.
This is not all about the sex either. There are just moments like when they were at the pier and Mangkorn just asks Yai to give him a chance - that soulful way Yai looks at him just seemed so real, and full of adoration, and he switches soon afterwards to a more playful look. These are all the interactions of a real couple and are captured perfectly. Just wonderful acting, and some of the best acting as a couple I've seen anywhere, BL or otherwise.
This drama has really become one of the best. It's cinematography was always top notch, and it has a wonderful playful quality to it, including the hilarious chop stick fight this episode. This series is ending by becoming one of the best BL's of the year, and I would highly recommend it to anyone. The OST is also among the best of any BL I've ever seen - really more exploratory, and more innovative than any other OST this year.
I don't need imaginary scenes like at the beginning [what was that?], telling me that gay sex is just imaginary. I'm not excited by all these wacky wigs, and people eating fries with ice cream. But at least Shogun took his shirt off- my god that was actually hot. I'll have to be satisfied with these crumbs. Why did I ever get into this? F*ck you Youtube algorithm, you betrayed me.