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Where did you get that from? That would be terrible. He’s my favorite character by far and he deserves the most. He needs to be seen healing , and certainly not killed off. That would have to be the worst plotline of any BL ever if this is the case

Oh ok, I wasn’t really being that critical. This was just a comical comment, and the screenplay is still jarring, but thanks for the enlightenment.

This is just so odd. The screenplay is really jarring. I mean one minute they're dodging killers, and the next they're laughing it up eating noodles. Golf must have fallen for Art because he doesn't want him to know that he was the cause of his concussion, and he's acting like he's really into him. He has those same psycho eyes he had for his girlfriend - what's wrong with this guy?

I don't understand how Art's amnesia works. Is it short term or long term? I think it's neither and he just remembers whatever the screenplay wants him to remember. I don't know how he was supposed to stitch up Golf when he seemed to know nothing about it. It doesn't matter, because Golf took his shirt off for this scene and redeemed the whole series. I just wish Art would have told him to hold on to his butt instead of his leg. I really think that would have worked better because it's really so much easier to squeeze than the upper leg. Why didn't this happen? I'm disappointed at the lack of creativity here.

I'm just starting this. I'm usually not that picky about BL's but I just didn't like the first episode. I think Best is a great actor, and I just want to look at him from every angle, praying that he takes his shirt off, but his character is just so grating. He's just a little too weird, like he has some serious psychological problem, but I doubt that he does. His behavior with his girlfriend was just too annoying to watch, and I almost felt like I was becoming a heterophobe taking in this relationship. I couldn't stand either one of them. The girl did seem very bitchy, even if she had ample cause with the way Golf was behaving.

Was that supposed to be a joke where we thought he was going to kill himself? Ha ha ha - fake suicide - hilarious! I mean something about this is just so stilted, but I can't stop looking at Golf. I just wish he would tone it down.

The subtitles are really atrocious. I just laughed when they translated that one line where they said "He's a smart." I don't know, that just killed me. Couldn't they get someone from the local Thai /English language center to help? This is actually a nice looking production for director Anasorn who does a lot of cheap indie productions which surprisingly have much better translations than this series.

Gosh, and the moon crashing into the Earth. Yikes! That's just impossibly ridiculous and requires a massive suspension of disbelief. And how does the moon crashing into the Earth cause the British Isles to sink underwater, or comets to hit Australia. Lunacy [pun intended]

That's a great point. I liked LITA a lot for the reasons you state, and this drama was just terrible at the end. The problem is not just about it being a family drama, but having terrible writing as well. All the parts against third-hand smoking were just out of place. It felt like a government sponsored campaign in the middle of a BL, and I've never seen anything like it.

I was just numb with all that wailing. It just never stopped, but it didn't get the ML's any closer. I'm really very lenient with BL's but I hate having watched 12 episodes that were really enjoyable and have them ruined by the last two. It's just the only thing that gets me irritated about any BL because I feel like I was tricked into wasting my time.

I agree completely. The whole idea of the father being there was to promote junk science, third-hand smoke causing cancer. The real problem with the father is that he abandoned his family, but that theme isn't built up at all and so no one cares about it at the end, and I wanted to skip it, but I thought it was just comical and was really enjoying the absurdity of it. Why doesn't the father even express how sorry he is for leaving them behind? God, it was the silliest thing, and the flashback of him hugging his kid - it's just too late to develop any feelings for this character, and you wonder why they even show us a scene with him being a nice guy - no, he was a jerk, and we'll never have enough time to watch him redeem himself. It's just horrible writing.

Wasn't anyone exasperated seeing Peak at the funeral? I thought that was too much with him asking her out with the mom dying but this is just sociopathic to be going to the funeral and still making out with her. This screenwriting just totally collapsed. I feel like they're just dialing it in for the finale. Someone said max out the melodrama, and don't worry about the words.

Who doesn't hate a cancer causing father? Not only did he whore around with other women, and beat the kids within an inch of their life, but his very touch caused cancer. I'm glad that Seeiw was able to forgive this POS, and the guy got a few seconds of guilt-free happiness, but he really should have told Seeiw that he was doomed to die, just like his mom, but I guess he's no saint - no surprise there.

Someone must have picked Earth for this role because of his limitless tear ducts, and this last episode required like a bath-tub full of tears. Thank god they picked the right boy for this. I'm sure this level of melodrama was necessary because that father and his smoking were just out of control.

STOP SHOUTING SO MUCH!!!! PEAT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO CRY BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THEY WROTE HIM IN THE NOVEL, BUT I'M GLAD YOU ENJOYED IT.

This is very insightful. I wrote a long review advocating for therapy, but I agree with everyone that what Mame did was perfectly acceptable. You could go in that direction - with just love from Prapai being the answer. A longer drama showing Sky's road to recovery would have been better, but that's my only complaint. They did a fantastic job here, and Prapai had always been very sensitive to Sky, even crying for him when he can't. If there was a lover that could heal trauma like this, Prapai would definitely be the one.

This is like watching something on Nickelodeon. It's so juvenile, and the BL element is submerged under a really uninspired het drama of the most tepid Victorian kind. Don't even dream of any hot scenes here whether of man, woman, beast or vegetable. At least in bromances they show some skin. I'm just watching this for mysterious reasons, and sometimes I can't stop myself when I get started. At least it has a plot even if it could have been written by an 8 year old - sometimes that's enough when there are cute boys involved.

Yes, absolutely. This is exactly what I feel. I don't know how everyone is a professional clinician on this board, but I'm enjoying their histrionics.

I agree with you. She's shown some development. In TharnType, Tharn couldn't be less sensitive to Type's childhood trauma compared to how Prapai deals with Sky. I would prefer that Sky see a doctor or therapist but it is in the realm of the plausible that he doesn't need one. PTSD is not the same as major depressive disorder as many assume on here. It is not biological and some people have the capacity to get over it. Everyone's mind is different. Sky does have a supportive family and he wasn't born with a mental illness so he could overcome the trauma in a natural way without meds or intensive psychotherapy. I just intuitively feel he needs some help outside his boyfriend, but that is just how I read him, but none of us can see into the mind of this fictional character who was given far too episodes for us to really understand.

In the book he was raped a second time, so they really toned it down. I think the effect, even toned down, was to have him re-experience his worst nightmare. I don't think it was all just meant for drama, though. Prapai does console him in a very effective way, and the trauma of rape is partially addressed.

Yes, everyone is different. Sky might have PTSD but he might have recovered enough on his own. He doesn't have clinical depression. Some people are resilient. It's impossible to say, and Mame has actually kept this in the realm of the plausible, but I would have preferred therapy for Sky. His character did seem to be broken, but it could just be acting out, like a cry for attention without necessarily being real, stark depression.

That was just incredibly moving, and I was just balling for a lot of this. I have to say the emotional impact of the Sky, Prapai segment has to be the most intense of any BL I've ever watched, and I don't care what anyone says, it's a true wonder in the BL world - I'm not going to say masterpiece because that word has lost all meaning. The caveat to that is Sky needs a doctor - the total deconstruction of his chracter by Gun is just too severe for him to be fixed by just a sensitive lover. Prapai would definitely play an integral role in his recovery, but it's just not enough. Sky just revisited his worst nightmare, like a person revisiting a serial killer that they barely escaped from, and it would just be mind-bending. That scene was meant to maximize the drama [call it melodrama if you want], but its consequence should have been that Sky should have been wrecked for months. A few hugs, and some lovey-dovey talk shouldn't have turned that around. Impossible.

Nonetheless, I loved it and couldn't feel better about the end of this series - for the most part. I just wanted 6 more episodes, and to see them hunt down and kill Gun and chop him up into little pieces. That actor really played the villain perfectly. I really got total psycho vibes from him, and felt like I was watching a horror movie with him around. Not only did he track Sky down but he was intent on crushing his spirit completely with his insidious mind games, telling Sky that Prapai had willingly given him up, and that he was as trashy and as insensitive as Gun. This segment was really hard to watch when your intent in a BL is to watch fluffy romance, but it really worked. When Prapai saves him, the release is tremendous and they built that tension up for something that felt like hours.

Everyone was wonderful in this part, including Rain and Phayu. I just wish there had been more time devoted to this because it was really so serious, and required so much more time to handle Sky's sensitive condition, but they did wonderfully for the little time they had to work with.

I think you have to pay something when the condition is extremely expensive. They have universal healthcare but there are long wait times and poor equipment. She looks like she went to a nice private facility which would be very expensive and includes a lot of out of pocket costs. She also still needs to support three kids going to college and none of that is free.

Every segment of War of Y has been excellent and it's difficult for me to choose which one I like best. The Y-Idol segment started really dark with someone that seemed like such a snake, but he metamorphosed into a decent person. I think Peak was always pretty good but acted like Bew so he could be successful, but he let go of his conniving ways so he could get over his guilt. It's really more of a Hollywood ending because most people would never go back and would remain corrupted. Nonetheless, it's possible, and they made it plausible enough because Kla, his future lover, wanted him to be that way and Peak was raised pretty well by his mother. I think this segment had a lot of drama, and a lot of realism just like the previous episodes. You could always learn from this, unlike any of the bubblegum BL's we normally watch, and even if the messages are obvious, it's good seeing those same preachy, simple ethics in a context that is much more believable so the message hits home in a more effective way.

Back down to 8.2. SHHHH, you have to be quiet - BL's aren't allowed to have good ratings. The MDL homophobes are watching 👀👀👀

The big unanswered question of this series: is the wig ever coming off? I'm dying to know when this will happen. I'm sure Champoo will be like "I love you Mean, but it's either me or the wig." Somehow, I think the wig will win.