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Back in the day there was a Sci-Fi series called Space 1999 where the moon just left the Earth's orbit and went galavanting across the galaxy, acting as the spaceship for a lunar colony that was stationed there. Doesn't that sound ridiculous? The Moon leaving Earth's orbit would have catastrophic effects on planet Earth, but none of those things ever took place [including the planet having no tides, massive reduction in temperature, no seasons, or massive seasonal anamolies]. This was a very high budget sci-fi series with precious little science. One of the best sci-fi series of all time, the Dune series, has a concept of space travel based on a substance called spice that is produced on one planet out of several thousand galaxies. I mean even though we are talking about several thousands years in the future they couldn't even manufacture this "fuel" - it had to be produced by a ginormous worm that only lived on one planet out of trilions upon trillions of worlds. In reality most science fiction is not based on "hard" science. You are supposed to accept the premise and just move on with it, or just stop reading/watching etc. Some things are even universally accepted. Take for example the idea that when mankind ever discovers a new world, we just gleefully jump onto the planet, bathe in some resplendent lake there, and meet a thousand cute aliens, all of whom have universal translators. The most ridiculous part of this is that any such planet would have dozens to thousands of bacteria that have evolved for billions of years without having encountered any human, and our immune system would have no defense mechanism to stop them. Any human would be killed by a thousand different diseases in a matter of hours, but they never take this into account in virtually any sci-fi series, mainly because this is just an uncomfortable truth that prevents the action from taking place, especially the meetings with the cute aliens with their universal translators.

Now this is a BL, for godsakes, and we are lucky to have the barest fig-leaf of a reason for any premise, including anything involving ghosts, vampires, damp cloths, etc., as several people have already mentioned below. So just accept the premise of the moon colliding with the earth, just like you accept the idea of dragons breathing fire out of their stomachs, without expecting it to ever make sense, or just stop watching. Move on to your other thousand BL's that also make no sense, and stop giving people your holier than thou attitude about it.

I'm not going to fight with you on that. Honestly, for me, no one is interesting in this series except Maito. I can only say that Shogun is more interesting in that he's a manager, and he has tried to mold the band, and make them go beyond themselves to achieve their potential. I think he's done an effective job portraying a manager of a music company. He does have a little gravitas whereas Green just feels superficial. As Freshkicks said below, he seems to be defined by his crush. But Shogun isn't that interesting either, and he's just a little too serious. I can see how you like Green's fun-loving kind of personality. He might have a little more life in him than Shogun. I was joking above but I do feel sad for all these actors because this show can't help any of their careers. I really like Jet and Save and hope they'll get some better roles in the future.

Have you ever felt like you were slowly dying watching a show? If Green and Maitoh are the endgame, I think I might go into a coma. I do like Green, but they forgot to give him a personality in this series, and poor Shogun just sighing himself to death - it's driving me crazy. This show is for masochists only, so the rest of you should be watching something else pretty soon. I'm here to slowly fan the flames of a dying show because I feel sorry for it. These poor hot men in this show - I'm here for you, please call me if you feel like you can't get over the torture of making another episode.

WHY YOU…NOT LIKE QUEERBAIT SHOW?
A secret taped conversation between producer Li, and mad scientist Yu from the Guangdong bioweapons lab

Li: Thank you for your generous support
Yu: No worry, we give as much money as you need, just keep BL no sexy
Li: We’re doing our best, but we might not be doing that well in the ratings
Yu: You no worry about that, we keep paying and will sell show in China where we make them watch show.
Li: Oh no problem then. But why do they hate the gays so much? I’m just curious.
Yu: General Xi crossdress at baby shower of Vice-Chairman Wu, or something like that. I don’t know. Who cares? I do what they tell me to do.
Li: It just seems like you guys spend a lot to keep this up. Maybe I shouldn’t say anything
Yu: Huh! We have plenty money. Thailand has such teeny-weeny economy. You need microscope to find it next to big papa-bear China economy. We already bought all the script writers for BL’s long time ago. Why you think scripts always so stinky? But last year we replace scriptwriters with biologically enhanced monkey. We have so many monkeys from virology lab, so many monkeys! Maybe we took too much money from peasant food budget. But, monkeys so cute!
Li: Are you saying that this script was written by a monkey?
Yu: Yes. He did good job, no? He already working on sequel. He such a good monkey – I think he gonna get even more bananas than last time.

This is just adorable. The relationship between Win and Team - I could just watch it for 20 more episodes. I love how Team says HIAAAAAA with his pouty face, begging Win for some affection. These guys are just so natural together. It's some of the best chemistry out there.

I liked the way Win was talking about his relationship with Dean this episode. It's just refreshing to talk about a gay relationship like it's no big deal, and the easy nonchalance of everyone in that room was just kind of a release for me. I don't know how many gay dramas I've watched where the relationships are discussed like they're life and death situations.

I wonder why Golf never told Art about what he did to him? I guess he chickened out. It seemed like he agreed to what Gus told him to do, because he was serious about Art. Overall, I'm really enjoying this whole drama. It's very cute, amusing, and suspenseful. I look forward to it every week, and Golf and Art are very pleasant to look at. Hopefully they run out of shirts or something- I need to see Golf's chest again.

And burn that wig - it's way past time

This is just a punishing level of angst. I don't think I've seen any BL that is this sad. Name doesn't have any help for his situation, and he must be totally traumatized at this point. He probably is suffering from severe depression and anxiety, and now his mother dies, or is severely ill. I just wish this torture for this character would end, and I see no point in it - we don't watch BL's to get experiences similar to Schindler's List. These writers are doing nothing but creating unlimited angst to make us invested in the drama, but their excessiveness has made us all numb.

I do want to see what happens with Name and the others, but I hate the way they are executing this plot. They need more logic, and less emotion in virtually every scene. Nothing ever makes sense, and the sadness is just cloying at this point.

Well, the screenplay almost went there. It was a close call, I'm sure, during one of their meetings.

We made some important discoveries this episode: Golf and Gun are two asexual men, struggling in a hyper-sexualized world. The temple is their safespace. Golf is like EWWWW Gun, do you have to touch me??!! I'm only trying to help you walk. Oh, right, thanks for being such a helpful organism.

We also discover that Golf is mentally challenged. Only now does he figure out that Gun is Mr. 8 -obviously he has the mental ablities of someone less than 5 years old.

I really thought I saw a different ending than a lot of people on here. It seemed very well done, and a provided a lot of needed resolutions to this drama.

This series started off very choppy because the source material is just weird. They basically had to deconstruct the characters of Mangkorn and Yai so that we could even have characters that we could possibly care about. The initial characters are just so toxic that we would never have sympathized with them. They were two alpha-male man whores with a chip on their shoulder. The screenplay writers used the barest crumbs of ideas from the novel, like the original names of the characters, and some of their initial characteristics - now they switched those character-traits to becoming secondary ones, so that Magkorn and Yai have a very sensitive side that would be used to develop the characters into the one's we love by the end, and they let them grow and develop to shed almost all of the toxic traits we find at the beginning of the series. What was really good about this is that we really see an exciting and very dynamic change in their characters, a transition that is much more dramatic than most any other BL. We also see a great enemies to lovers trope that, in a parallel way, was very dramatic, and probably the biggest transition in BL history - two guys that started with rape-like sex, and blackmail becoming one of the most romantic and intimate couples by the end of the series.

This ending had a lot of touching moments, starting with the scene at the mom's deathbed. That was done very effectively and tastefully. Now we know the context of Yai's anger toward his new aunt because the mom is portrayed so well, and anyone would want to protect her memory. At the funeral scene we see Yai's father honor her memory, placing the asters on her gravesite, and Yai was touched enough that he sees that his father hasn't forgotten his mom while going after his new love interest. Very well done. Yai finally let's go of the hatred for his aunt and welcomes her into the family.

Mangkorn had a life long ambition to get his masters in his profession. He's very passionate about his career, but he just started his relationship with Yai, and is deeply torn and expresses it very well. He even tells Yai he won't go if he doesn't want him to. Yai understands how important this choice is for Mangkorn and let's him go, because that is the best expression of love - not to be selfish and to desire that your partner fulfill their dreams even if it requires a little sacrifice. They played this resolution just right. I've been in a relationship where I've had to make this same decision, being separated from my partner by several thousand miles, and it is very difficult to be without the person you love the most while having to pursue your career. I felt exactly the way Mangkorn felt in this scene.

Yai and Nine have to settle the feelings that they have for each other. Yai does it in a very classy way, and neither says anything hurtful, maintaining their friendship while understanding that Yai is only going to pursue Mangkorn as his boyfriend. They hardly had to say any words, and that was tastefully done.

When Magkorn comes back, with a wonderful and appropriate slo-mo dramatic entrance, he comes back with flowers to express fully his love in a romantic way, which true partners would. It's not about the sex, although they did say they were going to have a lot of it later on. He was also very romantic in sending him the flowers without even telling Yai about it, just to express his selfless love to him - it was a very sweet touch in this screenplay.

All in all, every loose end was tied up in the finale, and all done very well. There was still a lot of romance conveyed here at the same time, so I have no idea what the complaining is about. Even the story of the bodyguards, and the bar are given some resolution which showed a good attention to detail that is often missing in these Thai BL's. I thought this was a great ending and was the best episode of the series. I'll just have to respectfully disagree with those who found it boring or not compelling. This series has ended, for me, as being one of the best BL's of the year, and the screenplay writers did an awesome job salvaging it from the scraps they started with.

uh...no. Does this comment really need a spoiler tag? To be fair, I'm not totally certain but it's 99 percent likely that this will not be a happy ending. Well if it is a happy ending then it will be like we all won the lottery ;-)

Really, Yoon and Ton fell for each other? I really love that couple. I love Unforgotten Night - this show really reminds me of it, for sure

I was not a fan of this show at the beginning, especially the first 3 episodes, which were are all disjointed, and had elements of blackmail and rape, but this has completely turned around. I think that might have been the effect of trying to translate a porn novel with virtually no plot into a workable screenplay. What I like about it in the last two episodes is the real intensity of the relationship - the chemistry is on fire. This has to have some of the most physical intimacy of any BL I've ever seen. It seemed to be like non-stop for the last twenty minutes, and had just a lot of variety. They just acted it out so well like they were really into each other, more than any other couple I've seen in BL's. This was at the level of a normal het drama from Hollywood, and lasted much longer. I think anyone that likes BL's really appreciate when actors are allowed to roleplay these scenes without all these weird artificial barriers, like separating the leads by 3 or more feet from each other. I loved that they switched from the bath tub, to the motel, presenting a contrast between an artistic orchestrated romantic setting, to just a mundane one, and having an equal amount of intensity in both.

This is not all about the sex either. There are just moments like when they were at the pier and Mangkorn just asks Yai to give him a chance - that soulful way Yai looks at him just seemed so real, and full of adoration, and he switches soon afterwards to a more playful look. These are all the interactions of a real couple and are captured perfectly. Just wonderful acting, and some of the best acting as a couple I've seen anywhere, BL or otherwise.

This drama has really become one of the best. It's cinematography was always top notch, and it has a wonderful playful quality to it, including the hilarious chop stick fight this episode. This series is ending by becoming one of the best BL's of the year, and I would highly recommend it to anyone. The OST is also among the best of any BL I've ever seen - really more exploratory, and more innovative than any other OST this year.

That's interesting that Bank feels discriminated against. There are a few other half-Thai actors that are really doing very well in this business. The actor Fluke who plays Gawin in Not Me, and Mork in Dark Blue Kiss seems to have done very well - those are some of the highest rated dramas with no lack of sponsorship deals. Also the actor Drake, who plays various characters including one on 2gether, 1000 Stars, and Bad Buddy also does rather well and doesn't seem to be discriminated against as far as I can tell. But it is possible you're right, because some people might have avoided this discrimination by one means or another. I just hope this trend improves in the future, just like we see greater acceptance of LGBTQ+ platforms in these BL dramas.

I'm counting the days till Christmas, and this show should end right about then. Dear Santa, all I want for Christmas is if one of the male leads from this show could just accidentally trip while at a retail store and kiss a hot male mannequin on the lips. Dear Lord, I just need SOMETHING in this drama.

I don't need imaginary scenes like at the beginning [what was that?], telling me that gay sex is just imaginary. I'm not excited by all these wacky wigs, and people eating fries with ice cream. But at least Shogun took his shirt off- my god that was actually hot. I'll have to be satisfied with these crumbs. Why did I ever get into this? F*ck you Youtube algorithm, you betrayed me.

I'm really glad she burped after eating it. It might have been unfeminine but they really needed to highlight the most important part of the show.

Also the best OST, in my opinion. The only other one that's as good for me is Dancing with the Devil from Big Dragon.

This was an incredible BL. It had a powerful intensity, and the acting was just among the best of any BL I've ever seen, partly because the roles were so challenging. Khao really dominated the first half with his effortless ability to play a mult-faceted character that took on the whole school, while struggling with clinical depression. In the second part First had the more challenging role due to the trauma of having to leave his cult-like role as the head prefect, and accepting his gay identity. This was a riveting performance by both the ML's. Despite what many have said on here, the plot was actually very good - it was full of suspense and drama while balancing that with the romantic interactions of the ML's and the secondary couple. Some people went in with unrealistic expectations that this should be something like Manner of Death with a lot of action I guess, but if you just experience the show without preconceptions, every episode is enjoyable with multi-layered psychological, philosophical, and romantic aspects fused together in a very satisfying way. This is also what made the drama constantly entertaining. This is definitely GMMTV's best drama of the year - it's really not even close. It's also, overall, one of the best BL's dramas this year, with only a couple of other BL's even coming close to it.

That's what I've been saying for 3 episodes - these healthy young men just acting like nuns with vows of chastity. What the heck?! I like how JaFirst were f*cking like bunnies in Don't Say No, and now they've been completely virginized. I laughed so hard the way you said it - that was hilarious 🤣🤣🤣