Soryuu Aya Brea

I agree, and I think both things can be true, like I mentioned, the power of forgiveness can be real, but it’s meant to serve you, not to excuse the person who harmed you. And, like you said, it doesn’t have to be part of everyone’s healing process. Some people find peace through forgiveness,others find peace through boundaries, letting go, and not thinking about the person at all. The problem with a lot of dramas is they push this one size fits all arc where forgiveness equals reconciliation, and reconciliation equals love. In real life sometimes closure looks like cutting ties and never looking back. And that’s still healing

He was spewing so much enlightened nonsense midstabbing, i swear he transcended mortal pain

The power of forgiveness in real life is about healing yourself, not absolving the other person. But in dramas? It’s like, ‘Forgive them... and now love them too!’ Yeah, no. Bye. You can forgive someone and still want them very far away from your life, and that’s the part most dramas conveniently forget, especially when cruel parents are involved, because filial piety 😬

You mean between the leads? They will solve their feelings partially regardless of the hairpin fiasco, but then other things will happen, and other things on top of other things 😭😅

The stepbrother is just a spoiled child, parroting the resentment his mother feeds him. He isn’t inherently mean just a kid emotionally poisoned by an adult who should’ve known better

I think Gidi just misspelled and was saying her brothers (half-brother and the friend's brother, who is now like a brother to her).

I think a lot of casual viewers didn't realise it already came out, I saw a promo i think on tiktok 😅

after the end of episode 12 pulled out that plot twist like a last minute sale of clichés, my standards are now lying face down somewhere on the muddy ground. Nothing can surprise me anymore 😬

So, Mudan finds out her mother wasn’t sick after all, she was poisoned. And who tells her this? Her stepmother, who casually drops the name of the culprit: the man who runs the orphanage, the one who used to be ML’s servant/friend.

Naturally, Mudan confronts him, and what does this man say? That during a pandemic, his own poor family died while the wealthy stayed safe in their homes. He became filled with resentment and decided to take revenge... by poisoning Mudan’s mother. You know, the woman who was literally trying to help him and care for the sick. His reasoning? He couldn’t stand to see someone rich like her happy and alive while his loved ones were gone. Mudan (rightfully) loses it because...what? That’s not even revenge, that’s just bitter villain nonsense. But before she can act, ML shows up and gives a full speech about how this man raised him, took care of orphans, did good deeds, blah blah... and that Mudan should forgive him.She then tries to stab the guy (understandably)and ML steps in and gets stabbed in the chest instead. While bleeding, he proceeds to deliver the classic “if we keep going eye for an eye, the whole world goes blind” kind of speech. And Mudan? She leaves, completely disgusted by all of it.(Maybe I made it a bit dramatic and i did watch with terrible and confusing MangoTv subs, but honestly... this is what happened.)

😭😅 Honestly, if she had stabbed him with a tiny hairpin or better yet, chopsticks, maybe the scene would’ve made slightly more sense. 🥲😅 At this point, I’m convinced this is secretly a wuxia drama, and the next plot twist will be that he’s been cultivating inner strength for years and can now survive chest wounds with just talks of forgiveness 🤣😬😭

I was thinking that maybe the guy didn’t actually poison the mother at all, or maybe he had to do it for someone much more powerful, and JCY found out the truth and decided to take the blame to protect her from going against that person. I mean, it would still be a ridiculous “noble idiocy” trope, but at least it would explain the bizarre “let's hug it out while I'm stabbed and he’s monologuing about peace” scene... dunno, I'll think about other ideas 😭😅

He is like a totally different person; you forget it is him

Amazing acting, and even if the characters are terrible people, they are well fleshed out

It doesn't, at least not that I noticed (you never know with those horrible subtitles), but it doesn't matter after some other things happened the hairpin becomes like an irrelevant character.

If the murderer had been there sobbing, begging for forgiveness, ready to accept punishment for killing/poisoning to death an innocent person then maybe I could have bought the whole redemption angle. But no. He stood there completely unapologetic, explaining what he did and why he did it with the conviction of someone delivering a manifesto, not a man who’s lived with guilt or sought penance. And then the ML shows up, and I thought, “Oh, finally, he's here to stop her from becoming a murderer herself.” But NOPE. Instead, we get that absurd peace-and-forgiveness speech while the guy who just admitted to a calculated poisoning stands there like he didn’t just confess to something ripped from an episode of Criminal Minds. And was ML stabbed in the chest with a toothpick to be so whatever about it and continue talking like it was nothing?

Let's see how they will save the story from here 😭

After everything they’ve put us through this drama better give us a full, unapologetically happy ending. No open endings. No “bittersweet” nonsense. And definitely no sad, poetic/artistic endings. I’m not asking for a 10 minute wedding sequence and babies (okay maybe I am), but at least one solid, well-written final episode where we get emotional closure 😬

me too, it was something that doesn't belong in this drama 😭

He is just a plot device with legs

Too many dramas are testing my mental health at the same time 😭