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I am talking about how people are bashing Sam for drinking to prepare for this scene, not about the debate regarding consent because people have differing opinions on it.

As a victim of sexual assault, I wasn't happy about this either but I see where Shi De was coming from but even so, his character's behavior was inexcusable. It is those people who are criticizing Shi De's actions as Sam's that I have an issue with.

And you would be surprised at how a lot of 13-year-olds are mature enough to know what consent is, you see There's such a thing as Sex education where I come from that starts when kids are in Grade 1 (6 yrs old), and consent being taught in Grade 3 (8 yrs old), gender identity in Grade 5 (10 yrs old), so on and so forth. (This is another debate for another time whether what age is appropriate to teach them about the "nasties" of the world - and I say "nasties" with tongue in cheek).

It really depends on where you draw the line regarding consent. I know a lot of people find Sleeping Beauty and Snow White problematic and these movies have been approved for children viewing for ages. Where does political correctness begin and end? Can we just appreciate the drama for what it is - just a show that happens to spark conversation? For those still concerned about the lessons of contentious scenes being portrayed in a "favorable" way, I think this is where parental education comes in for those whose minds that are still impressionable.

This comment for the people in the back. A very mature thought process that weighs in the good and the bad, with proper explanation, without shoving their agenda down people's throats.

Highlighting this: "And judging what is right or what is wrong, what someone should take or not take, is always easy as outsiders, but as a viewer I’d rather take this opportunity to put myself in these characters shoes, and more than judging them, try to understand and emphasise with them." - I am grateful for this golden nugget. We should all learn from this poster.

Certain people on this forum think that they're saints and stand on their moral high ground throwing stones at actors who are trying their best to deliver us what I think is a good show. If you have a problem with it, please change the channel. I don't mind differences of opinion, as long as they are healthy and thoughful discussions. Fortunately, most people here have fully-developed, functioning intellect. It is just the sad few who are lacking brain cells, who resort to pettiness and have a very limited vocabulary that are ruining this comment page. I guess I have to send them boxes of diapers and perhaps throw in some pacifiers to soothe their growing pains. Remember this is rated 13+ . If your mental age isn't able to comprehend this, then you have no business watching this show.

Well, at least I don't resort to name-calling when arguing my point because calling other people tools, morons and stupid, doesn't make your stance more valid and actually makes you look like a petulant child who isn't mature enough to handle adult issues. Go back to sucking your thumb, because clearly you need it.

I agree with you. If Sam was completely drunk, he wouldn't have been able to function or remember his lines. But some people on this forum just like to stand on their soap box because clearly they've won Oscars for their acting skills, hiding behind a computer in the comfort of their own homes.

I agree with you. If Sam was completely drunk, he wouldn't have been able to function or remember his lines. But some people on this forum just like to stand on their soap box because clearly they've won Oscars for their acting skills, hiding behind a computer.

Well someone's on their high horse and can't get down. Don't blame the alcohol but the people who can't handle them. We should just burn all the wine cellars in the world, and put all the vineyards out of commission. Tell all the governments to stop the sale of alcohol too and make it illegal, how about that so you can sleep peacefully at night? Or better yet, if you're so indignant about the process, just stop watching the show or you don't know how to turn off your device that we have to teach you?

Because some people think they can clearly do better than Sam and that's why they're bitching. Just typical belly aching.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mikespohr/movies-stars-who-were-drunk-or-stoned-while-filming

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17 Movies Stars Who Were Drunk Or Stoned While Filming Classic Scenes

So these poor people are unprofessionals, so they can quiy their jobs too.

If it weren't for the off-the-charts chemistry between Milko and Aki, I wouldn't even give this show the time of day.

I was so hesitant in watching this drama after seeing the trailer being so dark, but TBH when I watched it, I wasn't as shocked as I thought I would be, maybe because other films were more disturbing (e.g. Saitankyori wa Mawari Kudokute) and made less sense.
I am glad though that they changed some of the story line from the manga. This Live action treated the material better and gave it more "heart".

I actually like KSG's character but Mi Joo rubs me the wrong way that I don't even know I can continue and Im only on ep 3 and already yawning.

@ponnu exactly. Viki keeps locking videos until you upgrade to the next level.

Urmmmmm tmi

As for my take on Imagase, I think his stalkerish behavior at first put me off, as to me this was more of an obsession, or the desire to possess than love. Usually, the feeling of love/attraction is stronger when it is unrequited or forbidden and there's a science behind it (read: dopamine reward system). But the movie changed my perception when it showed Imagase bawling his eyes out at the last scene. There's a vulnerability there that for me wasn't as clear in the beginning. Imagase realized that a relationship has to be a give and take and not just him fighting for it.

I actually like the ending of the drama better than the manga because it shows that Otomo is willing to make an exception for Imagase and actually wait for someone instead of randomly filling his gaps with anybody. It needs to show that Otomo is not given an easy way out with Imagase running back to his arms. It also highlights that Otomo never truly loved anyone because if he did, he wouldn't have cheated at every opportunity he gets. Otomo breaking off ties with the director's daughter shows that he is no longer to cover up his loneliness or for the sake of appearances, just with anybody. Otomo has to learn that love is not easily bestowed but earned.

That is why I never ask for season 2 of any shows (even it's not BL). Because most sequels are bad and even ruin the coupling for me. Only acceptable sequels for me are mostly Western Movie Franchises.

That one I somehow believed after viewing countless youtube videos of makeup transformations that can turn totally one person to look drastically different. So it could be entirely possible or maybe I'm just
gullible and they switched models like show one person before and another person after like how they sometimes do for weight loss ads. Haha.

Am I the only one who keeps thinking throughout the drama: where in the world Joo Gyung gets the money for her (what looks to be expensive) cosmetics, beauty tools, and also fashionable clothes? She only started using them AFTER the family lost money and had to move, and it doesn't look like she's working anywhere.