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The hate the female characters in this got was ridiculous. Even the little girl. Like damn, she is just a child and people are angry because she is causing some issues... like children do?

For me, this season was really good in terms of the story, and even tho the execution could have been slightly improved, i love that we saw the characters in context outside of their relationship.

this was surprisingly good!
They used the tropes in the best way possible.

Oh i know there is a lot of "scam" in psychology. I was lucky enough to have some good professors in my universit.

To be honestly, I specialized in clinical and neuropsychology, and most of the focus was put on the neurological disorders, so it's a bit different branch then affective and personality disorders (sure, technically they all connect coz brain, but with strictly neuro-issues, you can point the cause in more specific way and the symptoms are far less... wishy washy, same with diagnosis)

No he's not the biggest trash but people are well within their right to find his behaivor problematic and questionable . - never said they can't tho. I'm talking about specific part of the viewers who describe him as pure evil trash and abuser.

It's okay. Just that one part rubbed the wrong way, coz saying you can just magically grew out of the mental issues made it seem like they can just disappear on their own and are just part of certain developmental period. The older you mostly better equipment you are to deal with it hence it affects your life less, but i would not equate it with growing out of them.

I have a degree in psychology too. And actually my sister was diagnosed with bpd, just got back from 3 months of hospitalization. The symptoms change but i would never say it gets better. She now just deal with different issues than when she was a teen. And she still sees psychiatrist ever month and has therapy sessions.

Not to mention you did not say the symptoms become less severe, you said you grow out of your mental issues, that's a different statement that has a different meaning.

I stand by what I said. One instance of shitty and harmful behavior does not make him abuser. He clearly still loves Seo Joon and his feelings hot the best out of him hence the kiss and sleeping together happened. Not all lies are abuse. That's exactly my point. People act as if Ji woo is the biggest trash because he was a dick once or twice, and emotionally not responding most of the times. this is not abuse, when they are NOT in the relationship currently, and he himself never seeked Seo Joon in the first place.

I'm not saying Ji Woo is an angle and shit shitty behavior should be excused and everyone should sympathize with him, but people make him into a psychotic monster which is ridiculous.

grow out their mental problems < this is really dangerous and unhealthy way of seeing it. If you truly have mental issue, you cannot just grow out of them. That's the whole deal - for him it's not some teenage angst most people deal with when they are younger.

I would advice you to read a little bit on depression and low self esteem issue (in more clinical levels, not someone just not being a complete confident king lol), because the lack of motivation to change fits perfectly into te picture, it's literally part of the "problem" and why it's extremely hard to deal with issues like that.

From psychological perfective, his actions make perfect sense when compared with the real behavior of people who deal with similar issues.

That's because the issues did not come from him being introverted, but him having major insecurities, completely separate from him being introverted ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Love when someone has no reply so they just don't give any proper one ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Sorry, but it's a fact Lhong organized gang rape on a minor, and then face zero consequences, and was even emotionally supported by some side characters in that special episode. Mame literally has rape fetish going on for gat characters, as majority of her novels has rape in them. It's not just one or two stories, it's literally most of her stories.

To be honest I never thought it will be fluff and sugar in the first place. The issues they have come from the personalities and issues they already presented in season 1. They were never that big of an issue in season 1, because they were not couple in season 1. Some shit hits only after you start living together etc.

What I'm saying - I don't think the problems they are facing right now came out of nowhere. And to be honest, it's not like the promoted season 2 as a fluff cute thing either. So jumping to any conclusion - be it angsty or cute, would be on the viewers not on the writers.

No, it's not stretch. Whatever he was thinking in his mind does not matter, how he acted does. You cannot abuse someone by thinking things. It needs to be either verbalized or acted upon. Exactly like wanting to hit someone and hitting someone are completely different things - one is emotional reaction one cannot control, the other is behavioral expression of said emotions that can be controlled.

I'm not saying what Ji Woo did was fine, I'm saying calling him trash, abuser etc is a ridiculous and not fitting the actions he made.

"Imagine your boyfriend leaves you with just a note, and later on he treats you like shit despite you always putting in the best effort." He would not be treated as anything if he did not put himself in the position to be treated as such. That's my point - it was not Ji Woo who looked for Seo Joon to hurt him over and over again, it was Seo Joon who kept being clingy after each and every rejection. So saying Ji Woo is an abuser, because he keeps being mean to Seo Joon, because Seo Joon does not want to give up and keeps coming back is ridiculous. It does not even fit the typical cycle of abuse with honeymoon time and Ji Woo trying to keep Seo Joon close to him just to hurt him more later. He kept rejecting Seo Joon. His emotions got the best of him once that led to that kiss and them sleeping together, but it was one event.

Just get your sh*it together! They should have changed the mood after the kiss in Ep 4 < yeah coz kisses and love can cure mental struggles... oh if life was this easy 🙃

Wanting to be looked for and looking for someone are completely different things. He did not actively seek Seo Joon so whenever Seo Joon went back to him or not was 100% Seo Joon's choice and not a result of Ji Woo's actions. Also, Ji Woo is Italian chef, been one before he even meet Seo Joon ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I honestly don't think what he said was abuse. Not everything shitty someone says can be put on the same box as abuse. Not every hurtful interaction is an abuse. People drop abuse and abuser so fucking easily nowadays the words has little to no meaning.

Dude, they gave a pity party special episode for the dude who organized gang rape on a minor 🙃

While there is no rape between main couple, the lack of consent and the "forcing yourself until the other person gives up" ideas are in it.

Saying Ji Woo acted like a di** because of his own insecurities - fair enough.
But some of you act as if he is Satan incarnate and eats newborn babies as a hobby 😂

He is not abuser for fuck sake. All he did was leave without a proper explanation. If that's your standard for abuse, you truly did not experience much in your life. Him being indecisive in treating Seo Joon later on is the result of Seo Joon clinging to him. It's not like Ji Woo chased after Seo Joon to torment him. Seo Joon kept seeking Ji Woo over and over again, no matter how many times Ji Woo rejected him.

Did Seo Joon deserve an explanation for the break up? Sure. Was it an awful thing to do to leave like that? Sure. But you are acting as is he was emotionally abusing him, which is not true. They both have issues. Their life situation with Seo Joon being a celebrity adds to the complexity of the potential problems they might face.

"I don't think people are saying that the show is bad because it's sad, it's bad because it's actually genuinely bad in terms of story and character development. " < some people literally say it's bad coz they were expecting fluff and got angst instead. I have no idea with people criticising the show, because in their opinion it completely missed in delivering the conflict and characters' motivations etc. But there are people who just dislike it because it's not what they expected and wanted to receive for season 2 in term of tone.

𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟕 𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧:
Seo Joon be like: I heard half of your conversation, I made my own theories what happened in the 2nd half, goodbye.
Me be like: oof ma dude. you are 🤡 yourself now.

Here's the thing. Even if they won't end up together, I don't think it will have a tragic ending, or at least it won't feel like it. Couples break up and that's close to never the end of the world, even if it might feel like it at first.

I honestly get Ji Woo. At some point it must have felt like he was living for Seo Joon, like he was not Ji Woo, he was just Seo Joon's boyfriend. All his life has been completely changed because of that relationship. He was staying late to meet Seo Joon for an hour, he gave up "normal" structured life he was so used to. At the same time, even tho he knew Seo Joon was doing his best to spend as much time with him as he can, it was never enough, coz how could it have been? One or two hours? With him going to sleep for a little bit because he is tired? So he felt guilt with how much Seo Joon was scarifying to see him, at the same time feeling like it's not enough and he wants/needs more, AND feeling like he becomes Seo Joon's shadow. Such a conflicting emotions could drive anyone mad.

I love the addition of the new characters. People have other people in their lives than just their romantic partners. I would hate if this show was bullshit like them just being locked in their house acting all cute. For me adding more characters, be it female or male is a good thing. It adds depth and layers to the main characters. They interact different with different people, we learn more about them thanks to these conversation. They say things they would not say to each other, that are important to understand their inner struggles and thoughts.

I LOVE Da Kyeong. The way she defended Ji Woo and her whole speech. Especially this line "We, young people, have our own weight that we struggle to carry.". I love her. She was always supportive, she seemed like a good friend, she cares for people around her.

Yoooo the editing of that fake village cooking restaurant show makes me want to watch it lol

𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟖 𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧:

I feel Ji Woo so bad. I'm not one to talk or show when I'm hurt or sad. I either pretend it's nothing or laugh it off, but when shit piles up, anything can set you off. Dude tried to be strong, and now it's just all crumbles down.

Also DAMN the scene with the phone. Him going through all the unread messages was him finally confronting the consequences of his decision, of him running away in the first place and shit slapped him across the face bad.

How much I love this season 😭 How much I love how mundane the break up was in terms of reason. It was not some external shit that broke them up, it was Ji Woo inner struggle. People break up even tho they love each other a lot. Just loving each other is in most cases not enough.

Military is such a scary and awful place. The issue with mandatory service (I understand that for Korean it's greatly needed with North Korea there) is the fact NOT everyone should be in the military. You need to have a specific set of personality treats to 1. Survive without any major mental issues, 2. Not become a psycho with little regards to human rights.

And it's not even about being "mentally weak", there's more into it. For example I have a strong sense of personal morality, so for me the idea of "following orders no matter what because the person above me knows better" is just something I could not take long term. For someone who analyses situations and social issues, I know there are bad people in positions of power, so I would not be able to blindly follow instructions of someone simply coz they over-rank me.

I think D.P. shows quite well how psychologically devastating the military service can be for someone who does not posses the needed traits and motivations to be there...

Great review! 🥰

it’s somehow predictable but overall, the drama is entertaining < I feel like it's the case with many shows. As long as the predictable story is well presented, it can easily be entertaining. Easy to follow plot makes it easier to appreciate other aspects of the action genre like fighting scenes, training montage that shows the growth of the hero, the relations between the characters. Realistically speaking, most people don't watch action movies/shows for the plot, but for the action 🤣

it will punch you in the stomach without any pity for 10 hours straight. < spot on description.

About the cases not being on the same "level" of the shock value and intensity - I do think it's a good thing. This makes the drama more realistic, and not just over the top caricature of the justice system and the topic :)

"Juvenile Justice" 's production, as far as the directing is concerned, isn't one of Netflix's top-notch and artistic ones, but still, it's great and gives the drama the right tone and atmosphere, making the drama very decent and beautiful. < this again I feel like it's a good thing. The fact it's more low-key in terms of "aesthetic" shots. Personally I dislike when a show with such a serious topic is shot in a highly aesthetically pleasing way - I feel like the visuals might be distracting from the plot in these cases. As you said, this one was not over the top, but still well balanced and shot is a good way 😊

Truly a great review that describes all the important aspect of the show 🥰