John Smith

Just because a drama is not complicated does not mean the viewers are simple minded. Neither does watching a melodrama mean you like to make people feel bad. Truthfully, this drama is probably not going to change my life or be the best drama I have ever seen in my life. However, with what I see and read on the news, this drama is a pleasant and welcome distraction. It also good enough for me to recommend people to check out. The drama has done a lot of things right, and I feel it actually deserves the high ratings and overall score it has. For a romantic comedy, it has really been more comedy than romance, which means that it could actually get better as it picks up steam.

I have no problem if you are not into the drama, and have issues with the way the story is told. I dislike that you feel the need to insult those who like it. The flaws should be pointed towards the show, and not those who watch the show. As far as why it is so popular, I think handsome men, beautiful women, chemistry, romance, and comedy is usually a good indicator.

I think that is a popular opinion here.

It did seem to be common knowledge among HK's team that she was the one who really wrote his articles. He really is a sad sack. I want to say that he is a bad person, but I am not sure he is capable of planning to do something bad. He just does selfish and foolish things and rolls with however they turn out. His description in the synopsis is really misleading compared with what we have seen of him. I feel that the drama has made him much too silly to be believable. I really thought he would have had a harder edge. Strung HK along using her to advance his career. Be a serial cheater and dump her only to marry someone that could make his life easier or that he could control. Go around taking bribes from the elite to shape the view of climate to their favor. Stuff like that, but noooooooooo, he just kind of fumbles around making messes and blaming others for not cleaning it up.

As of the end of episode 10, I really like the development of Yoo Jin. Yura is doing a really good job portraying her. I thought Ha Kyung did a good job of making Ki Joon look ridiculous, but Yoo Jin really has stepped it up in terms of showing just how flawed Ki Joon is. Regardless of how you feel about her past, she deserves better than Ki Joon. He better have no hidden sympathetic emotional scars, make some sort of grand gesture/sacrifice, have a medical emergency, or stand on a ledge and have some 11th hour epiphany because I will be disappointed with the writers. Why can't he be a bumbling selfish fool who needs to have a better relationship with himself before he can even think about being in a relationship with someone else? I wish we could have gotten a better idea of how he was during the ten years with Ha Kyung, and how he was while getting to know Yoo Jin. His behavior leaves me with more questions than any other character.

I agree with quite a few commenters who say that the cheating is wrong, but I also think that there are a lot more questions about what was going on in all the relationships before all four meet again at work. We only get bits and pieces here and there, but it seems clear that all four have their personal issues, and it affected their previous relationships and their current ones as well. The mains seem to be doing a better job of dealing with issues as they arise, while Ki Joon seems determined to not only avoid his personal and marriage issues, but also appears to actively look for more problems. Yoo Jin got married to the first person that asked her, yet she is probably the mature/smart/reasonable one which says all you need to know about Ki Joon. Maybe it is just me, but I picture Ki Joon having spent a lot of time in a pillow fort, and having Ha Kyung remove crayons and marbles from his nose during their ten years together.

Chinese romance dramas are notorious for having characters commit despicable and even illegal acts with little to no consequences.

Random SFL: "Sorry ML who I continually harass. I did not know getting the FL drunk, drugging her, stealing company secrets, and blaming her was that bad. I promise I will not do it again.. Pretty, pretty please do not call the police?"
Random ML: "That is okay clearly crazy SFL whose father is after my family fortune. We did accidentally share a moment when we were five years old, so we are best friends. I can forgive you for the ninth time, but do not let it happen a tenth or else I might not speak to you until you fake an accident."

Okay, maybe not that bad...

The second leads in this drama are more annoying than anything else, With Ki Joon being much worse than Yoo Jin so far.

Chinese dramas are just as bad when it concerns the negative actions of some characters (usually romantic interests of one or both mains) going unpunished.
There are many dramas that use noble idiocy and a time skip to add tension in the last episode or two for the main couple. I hope that does not happen here, but instead happens for the second couple. I think that would be better use of that trope. If the drama is going to continue to use the second couple to cause problems for the main couple (at the expense of their own problems), I do not see how the second couple can have any sort of happiness like that.

I think that is partially why Ki Joon is so unlikable, because he cannot forgive Yoo Jin for lying concerning Shi Woo, and gets upset when he thinks of Shi Woo near Ha Kyung or Yoo Jin. He needs to be able to forgive, accept forgiveness, along with having confidence in himself and trusting others.

Usually I can read the synopsis, look at the cast, and see the trailer and get a general idea if I will like it. I was interested in seeing it, but shocked by how good it is. I have not been this surprised since Shining For One Thing. Yes, I know that was less than two months ago, but before that, it had been a while. As long as they continue to keep the focus on the main couple, limit the angst filled misunderstandings, and forget about any noble idiocy, then it has the potential to be a great fantasy based romantic comedy drama. ( I am not asking for much, am I?)

There is no excuse for cheating, but I feel Yoo Jin is a more sympathetic figure versus Ki Joon. I know it is not that simple, mainly because almost every relationship in the drama is complicated to say the least. If Shi Woo has forgiven her, then I will too. Ha Kyung seems to want to do the same with Ki Joon, but he just will not allow that to happen. Yoo Jin wants to leave the past behind, and Ki Joon will not allow that either. I cannot see all the relationships in the drama working out with happy endings all around. While Yoo Jin and Ki Joon might not get (or deserve) a sad ending, I feel it definitely deserves an ending.

I am not particularly invested in their relationship, but I do like them each getting a dose of karma.
While lying is wrong, and she did lie about her relationship with the ML, they both have been keeping secrets that I would call lies of omission. It seems clear to me that their relationship was formed on shaky ground from the very beginning, and they have not really done much to shore up the foundation. Especially together.
I think I would be disappointed if every couple here got a happy ending. One, there are quite a few couples that are dealing with issues, and I just do not see them all working out. Two, I see the second leads being thorns in the main leads side for quite awhile, and I am tired of dramas telling me "it looks like a duck, it swims like a duck, it quacks like a duck", then BAM! "it is a goose." (Sounds like a kid's game, but I dislike 11th hour redemption for the sake of redemption.) Three, the drama titles lead me to believe otherwise.

I did not quite get what the writer was trying to say about the idea of "living together" through the words and actions of all four leads (past and present).

About the second couple, I think that is why they seem to be fated for a less than ideal outcome. How are they supposed to deal with their problems, when they are focused on individual problems. It is almost comical to see them having problems, but dealing with problems they seem to invent as they go along. Not to mention, I think both second leads spend more time in the drama with their exes than they do with each other. The main leads seem more "adult" about it, when it should be the opposite. Which is the married couple, and which is the couple that seems to have just met and got together?

No doubt. I find myself constantly going back and forth with feelings of wanting to FF the trio's scenes because I feel like I am intruding on their personal problems (not to mention I have no advice to offer or a clue as to what is going to happen next), and staring intently not wanting to miss a single word, action, or gesture because it seems every one could mean so much to how it all turns out.

On a different, but related note, I feel that the daughter really has nothing to be sorry about or apologize for. She was put in a situation that few envy and even her parents are struggling to navigate. Plus she is a triple threat to her father. She is basically a stranger, she is a female, and a teenager. This story could really be a drama all unto itself. It would definitely be a melodrama, and I would probably not watch it (I get 300% of the recommended daily allowance of melo from the news), so I am glad I am just getting small doses.

I think the problem overall I have is that without seeing how the relationship between the second leads developed, or the time they spent until all four mains are working together, why should I care about the second leads? When dramas are presented as two separate couples, the drama usually makes efforts to show how the two second leads work their way towards each other. This drama has them married, and exactly why are we supposed to care about them or their troubles? They both cheat, lie, and keep secrets, and that was in their previous relationships. Now they are together, and yeah, they have improved. They have added emotional blackmailing to their relationship toolkit. It is halfway through, and there seems to be little path to character recovery for them in my eyes. I am not surprised since the love psychic (or whomever that lady was) predicted that for his marriage, although we were supposed to think it meant the FL and SML. I suppose writers could wave a magic wand and have them come to some spontaneous realization, and give them a happy ending, but I think viewers deserve more than that.

I always enjoy a good romantic comedy, and really enjoying the main couple here. Saying that, I think the story of Senior Forecaster Eom, his wife, and daughter have the potential to be the best story of the drama. Also, the one most likely to leave me disappointed. It is so awkwardly complicated for the trio (in a way that draws you in), and I hope they give it the attention it deserves.

She seemed to be attracted to him at the first meeting, and they seem to have their moments together that show they are both in the process of falling for each other.

I humbly accept your apology (even thought it was a sorry-but) as I am really a gracious person. I will keep this conversation as a reminder that just because someone makes a comment does not mean they are inviting comments. Especially if it is in terms of disagreement. I have felt the same way at times. I am not sure if there is a clear way to tell what is just a comment from one inviting discussion. Sometimes I feel there should be a way to disable comments on our own posts before we post them. That would probably be a good way to allow posters the freedom to be right, wrong, or unsure without having to defend their position. Sometimes you just want to put it out there in the world.

It seems more like a knot in his heart, and issues of loss, grief, and trust he has to work through. I assume this is where Shin Ha Ri comes in.

I do not think that it is to each their own in the meaning as phobia has a clearly defined clinical definition. Not to mention that for the average person, it is known for intense exaggerated reactions. The situation with the roach seemed to be an example of a phobic response from both parties. From screaming and jumping on the couch (and another person) to using cans of bug spray and still being scared. I only mentioned that it was not her fault not to cast any blame, but to notice that it was not the rain that he had issue with but the fact that she used the rain to show her importance which seemed to anger him. Even the grandfather seemed to take some notice of her mentioning it.

I think the defining characteristic of phobia is fear. He did not seem to display fear, but more an uneasiness which lead to his aggressive response. If the theory that he lost his parents in an accident in the rain, it makes sense. She did not know (to repeat she did not know), and made it seem like proof of his affection was making light of his parents' death. That is how I interpreted it.