It seems that their story is more developed in the novel
I didn't read the novel but from what I understood. The royal diviner was Li Shuran's ex lover. He was not a painter. He had another occupation. They got involved. But she couldnt marry him because her father refused. So, given she could not marry the one she loves. She decided to marry for power and status. As a result, she approched Mr Jiang on purpose to become his wife. Once she was married, the great divined was still pursuing her. They became intimate and she was pregnant. At that time Jiang Li was still 6 year old. Li Shuran needed to abort the baby and get rid of Jiang Li. This is why she threw herself down the stares and accused Jiang Li of Paricid and fratricide. She could kill two birds with one stone.
Li Shuran did what her father asked of her. She never rebel.
I don't know how the royal diviner ends in the novel. But I think that He doesn't die. He leaves her and marry someone else.
I don't think you can truly convert someone's opinion on how they felt in terms of the official ending (excluding…
I love the drama too and I like happy endings, so I always want more happy endings . But I totally understand why director want their work to be remembered.
My favourite historical Kdrama is "moon lovers : scarlet heart ryeo" and this is a bittersweet endings. I Watched it 5 times I think :
I don't think you can truly convert someone's opinion on how they felt in terms of the official ending (excluding…
I agree with you. There some tragic elements at the end of the drama. - The death of Wen Ji and Lu Ji, - the men on horsebacks after the battle, - the subjective camera when Xiao Heng gallops toward Xue Fang Fei .
Yes, I agree this is for easthetics . One could think about it as an open ending if we only consider these elements. However, as you stated, and I agree. Showing all that at the end of the drama adds a bittersweet taste to finish the show. We could say that this leans toward an open ending because, as you said => it leave room for imagination. This a manipulative strategy writer / director use to add momentum at the end of a movie. Also, I totally agree with you: Bittersweet / sad ending are more memorable. So I get your point.
Yet, the subjective camera was used several time in the drama . So it does not add a meaning of bitterness or melancholy. thus, when viewers understood this as a sad horseback scene I disagree.
If it was my choice. The director could have let Xiao Heng reach Xue Fang fei under the tree. But he did not. So=> room for imagination. I get it.
Nobody can change how viewers feel. I explained the logic of events as they occurred in an historical context. This set the basis of the characters behaviour. I cannot discuss viewers taste for open endings. This undeniable. I am going to copy past this on the discussion above, because yu opened my views on this topic, thank you.
I don't think you can truly convert someone's opinion on how they felt in terms of the official ending (excluding…
I don't know for Chinese drama but in Korea there are some grievances when ever a drama doesn't follow tropes. So I think it is confortable for those viewers to stick to clichés.
I never considered an open or a sad ending. Even before the special episode came out.
I heard that the director said, it was a happy ending and he stopped talking. It seems like some viewers want the drama to have sad ending .
I disagree. If it is about the easthetics , slow motion etc ... There is a lot of scenes like this in the drama ( when Duke Su is training under water for example. And those scenes are not dreams or after life vision. So I disagree.
Viewers like Xianxia with open/sad endings. I guess this the reason.
How patient he is!!
I sens there is a lot of secrets he uncovered.
In the double it is not about repeating Karma ^^
He was not a painter. He had another occupation. They got involved. But she couldnt marry him because her father refused. So, given she could not marry the one she loves.
She decided to marry for power and status. As a result, she approched Mr Jiang on purpose to become his wife.
Once she was married, the great divined was still pursuing her. They became intimate and she was pregnant. At that time Jiang Li was still 6 year old.
Li Shuran needed to abort the baby and get rid of Jiang Li.
This is why she threw herself down the stares and accused Jiang Li of Paricid and fratricide.
She could kill two birds with one stone.
Li Shuran did what her father asked of her. She never rebel.
I don't know how the royal diviner ends in the novel. But I think that He doesn't die. He leaves her and marry someone else.
so nice of you
so nice of you
But I totally understand why director want their work to be remembered.
My favourite historical Kdrama is "moon lovers : scarlet heart ryeo" and this is a bittersweet endings.
I Watched it 5 times I think :
https://kisskh.at/15999-moon-lovers-scarlet-heart-ryeo
I case you don't know it : The savage Prince Wang So (raised like an hostage , treated like an animal ) learns humanity
So I value director work and the sweet trap they put the audience in, when they show us open endings.
- The death of Wen Ji and Lu Ji,
- the men on horsebacks after the battle,
- the subjective camera when Xiao Heng gallops toward Xue Fang Fei .
Yes, I agree this is for easthetics . One could think about it as an open ending if we only consider these elements. However, as you stated, and I agree. Showing all that at the end of the drama adds a bittersweet taste to finish the show.
We could say that this leans toward an open ending because, as you said => it leave room for imagination.
This a manipulative strategy writer / director use to add momentum at the end of a movie.
Also, I totally agree with you: Bittersweet / sad ending are more memorable. So I get your point.
Yet, the subjective camera was used several time in the drama . So it does not add a meaning of bitterness or melancholy.
thus, when viewers understood this as a sad horseback scene I disagree.
If it was my choice.
The director could have let Xiao Heng reach Xue Fang fei under the tree.
But he did not. So=> room for imagination. I get it.
Nobody can change how viewers feel. I explained the logic of events as they occurred in an historical context. This set the basis of the
characters behaviour.
I cannot discuss viewers taste for open endings. This undeniable.
I am going to copy past this on the discussion above, because yu opened my views on this topic, thank you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vnNB4_B1k0
exept that, I made a recommendation of love duel above.
https://kisskh.at/759221-phoenix-lands-in-the-world/recs
This is the same plot.
https://kisskh.at/discussions/di-jia-qian-jin/126975-the-ending-explained-according-to-the-book-the-art-of-war
I never considered an open or a sad ending. Even before the special episode came out.
I heard that the director said, it was a happy ending and he stopped talking. It seems like some viewers want the drama to have sad ending .
I disagree.
If it is about the easthetics , slow motion etc ... There is a lot of scenes like this in the drama ( when Duke Su is training under water for example.
And those scenes are not dreams or after life vision.
So I disagree.
Viewers like Xianxia with open/sad endings. I guess this the reason.
I don't want to spoil
On episode 2 or 4 Jiang Li said that the garden was a demonstration of power.