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This is a drama that started with the main two leads having faked their death. It actually makes sense that the drama ended with them faking their deaths again to escape. Only this time they are together. This is a drama where people fly, magically heal each other and use human face masks to transform into other people. Them surviving those wounds is not out of the question Especially as we never see them actually die and we never see their bodies. And NYZ recieved a life saving pill in an earlier episode.

It was definitely presented to audiences in a way that we are suppose to think them surviving is a possibility. It was intentional. Otherwise they wouldnt have included the kid at all. They would have had her just envision the delegation riding into the sunset.

The other interpretation is also valid and quite beautiful too though. (As they are all together) and what I expected.

So I really do think they intentionally left it so both endings are possible so the audience can decide.

Well yes and no. TTJ died in tteotm but not completely. It hinted at the novel's ending where his soul is saved and he is eventually resurrected. In a way this ambiguous ending where its left up to the audience to decide is what it has in common with a journey to love's ending. Where there are two interpretations of the ending. It implies that while the delegation died the two leads may have faked their death (again) escaped and had children. The ambiguous part for some people comes from not knowing with 100% certainty whether this is real or illusion. So its left up to the audience to decide. Both interpretations of this ending are valid and quite beautiful.

I agree about Ruyi and NYZ's happy ending with kids not being something significant enough for Chu Yue to be imagining it in such detail 10 years later. And I agree, if it was YY I would be way more inclined to believe it was an illusion.

I've heard others say the child was leading chu Yue to her death, a kind of lovely idea - but again, why would an imaginary child that never existed in reality be the one to take her to the afterlife. Wouldn't it have made more sense for it to be Yu Shi San himself doing that?

So it was definitely ambiguous.

It is possible Ruyi was a given posthumous title because she faked her death. Meaning everyone believed her and NYZ to be dead.

Not that unbelievable as we never actually see her body (nor NYZ) And both she and Ning Yuan Zhou started the drama having faked their death. It actually makes sense narratively for them to end it the same way. So they escape and get to live the life they wanted - one of peace away from everything else together. Ning Yuan Zhou was given a life saving pill in an earlier episode which makes it possible for him to have survived his injuries.

It is an ambiguous ending though, so the other interpretation is just as valid. It's obviously intentionally written and directed for the audience to choose what version they prefer.

He was destined to die to give birth to the devil god. But he didn't. Not as he did in the first timeline. That's the point. Him loving Li Susu, and him going through Bo're Life is what gave him love threads and it was this that allowed him to resist being taken over.

I loved the part after her death. It was only really 1 episode, Episode 29 . We see her return in the future at the end of that episode. It had some of the best acting from LYX. And honestly, his reaction to her death made compete sense. There was despair, anger and guilt. And he had his big Heathcliff moment with her body, which is basically a hallmark of gothic romance. It's one of my favourite scenes in the entire drama. How was he supposed to act when she died? How was he supposed to be after 500 years wandering and being tortured by the nether river looking for her? He was never going to be exactly the same as he was. In fact this was TTJ without the devil bone for the first time in his entire existence. (because she took it from him)

His manipulative nature did not disappear though - He basically tricked her into admitting he who she was almost immediately (honestly surprised she fell for that) and he literally spent the last few episodes manipulating everyone into believing he had truly become the devil god.

This was simply my take on it, of course. I understand not everyone is going to see it the same way though.

You verbalised what ive been saying but much better. The fact that the drama started with them having faked their deaths and very possibly ending it in the same way would be fitting.

To be fair YL had heart disease and wasnt expected to live past twenty. It is not that unbelievable that his heart gave out after fighting them running for as long as he did.

Well its ambiguous for a reason. Its intentionally left to the audience to decide. I dont think there is a right or wrong answer. Whatever you feel the ending is is what it is.

I do think that chu yue who didnt have particualrly strong ties to either Ruyi or NYZ imagining their kid and life in such detail doesnt make much sense. If anyone was going to have that scene of imagining them escaping and with kids it should have been YY. As she was close to them both and knew about their plan to have a baby. Which is what makes me think that though the delegation on horseback once again, was fantasy, Ning Shi San wasn't. I think it would make sense for them to end the drama with them faking their deaths as it started in the same way.

But if they are all dead. Well that's a perfectly good ending to me too.

Disagree. It was beautiful, no matter which way you fall on the "ambiguous ending" discussion.

it is supposed to be the main leads. lol

The boy's name is Ning Shi San. (Ning Yuan Zhou being the father) The fact that he has NYZ's last name and is named Shi San is what tips Chu Yue off about who his parents are. Chu Yue asks if the mother's last name is Ren. He says his sister is named Ren Lu. The implication is that NYZ and Ruyi faked their deaths and escaped and have been living quietly. (we never actually see them "die" or see their actual bodies). As the drama started with them having faked their deaths, it's kind of fitting that it ends with them doing the same. Only this time they are together.

However, it could also simply be part of her illusion. This is why the ending is ambiguous.

But the leads were intended to be the parents of the boy.

It's ambiguous. It is implied that Ruyi and Ning Yuan Zhao may have faked their deaths and escaped. (as they both did in the beginning of the drama) That they have been living a peaceful life off the grid and had two children. Ning Shi San and Ren Lu. Chu Yue realises this, and asks to meet them. She envisions the delegation riding alongside them, as they were in life, and as they will continue to be in death. (even if it is just in spirit)

However, it could also be taken as Ning Shi San also being part of that same illusion. and that they are indeed, all dead.

Him falling in love with her is a vital part of the story so that was always going to happen. I loved unhinged mad with love TTJ. It was pretty messed up. He had never felt emotions before and didn't quite know what to do with them once he had them.

I wouldn't even say he was ever really a full "bad boy". He was an empty shell who only knew suffering. He was kind of pitiful and tragic from the beginning. I think the entire point of that character is that he isn't inherently evil. It is something inflicted on him by another force (the ancient devil god) and not something he chose. Unhealthy, obsessive, willing to do anything to anybody in order to keep her. He was still pretty morally grey for a good chunk of it. But he did grow. I loved it. It wasn't just about romantic love. It was about love for the world, and choice/free will over fate.

This is another drama that while brilliant, is not going to appeal to everyone. Which is fair enough.

Why would she be imagining Ruyi and NZY's child though? Would it not make more sense for her to simply imagine YSS if she were missing him.

If anyone was going to imagine Ruyi and NYZ escaping and having kids I feel like it should have been YY - especially as she was there from the beginning and knew about their plans to have a baby.

I'm not saying it's not a valid interpretation. I always felt them all dying was a perfectly fine ending and I went into this drama expecting it. I don't see it as bad. But this is definitely an intentionally ambiguous ending. Otherwise they never would have had that scene at all.

In regards to "Uncle Deng" In the version I watched it said Uncle Ding. In both English and Chinese subs. 丁叔叔 Dīng shūshu. So I didn't realise that's who it was referring to...if it was who it was referring to?

Why are some people saying it's the best drama of the year? Because that's how they feel. of which they are entitled to feel that way. Many were satisfied with the ending even if you weren't. (this is fine. we all have different opinions on these things).

It's not my favourite drama of the year (That goes to Till the end of the moon personally) But I can see why some feel that way about this one.

Slightly ambiguous. So, bittersweet. We are led to believe all the characters die. Until the last scene where it is implied that the leads may have faked their deaths, escaped and had children. Chu Yue meets one of these children, and asks to meet his parents. She envisions the entire delegation riding alongside the leads once more. Together in spirit. They disappear and she then follows the child to meet his parents.

So it's up to the viewer to decide if everything is an illusion, including the child or if the leads did in fact fake their death.

And? Lol i'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. It doesn't confirm that they all died. Many people don't like ambiguous endings. They either like it when it's full tragedy, or they like it blissfully happy.

Chu Yu not being able to move on after 10 years and imagining a full detailed conversation with the child of people she wasn't actually that close too for most of the drama doesn't make much sense to me. But I accept it as a valid interpretation. But again, it's not a fact. If they wanted us to think Ruyi and NYZ had died with absolute certainty , they would never have included that scene with the kid at all.

The final scene shows Chu Yue meeting a child named Ning Shi San she asks him if his mother's last name is Ren. The boy tells her his little sister Ren Lu is doted on by their father. Chu Yue, realising who his parents are, asks to meet them. Implying that Ruyi and NYZ survived and escaped.

She imagines the delegation riding alongside them - always with them in spirit.

So it leans towards an ambiguous bittersweet ending. Either it is all part of an illusion where she meets and has a conversation with an imagined child of Ruyi and NYZ, or they faked their deaths.

As the drama literally started with Ruyi and NYZ having faked their deaths, it's actually quite fitting for the drama to end with them doing the same thing. Only this time they are together and at peace.

both interpretations are valid, I'd say.

Where does the illusion start and stop then? She holds the boy in her arms, and imagines them all riding horseback over his shoulder. When they vanish, she follows the boy to meet his parents. So.... if Ning Shi San is also an illusion, does she know it? She clearly knows the delegation on horseback is just part of her imagination. So....?

Also why is she having such a detailed and specific illusion about Ruyi and NYZ's hypothetical children after 10 years? Would it not make more sense for her to imagine Yu Shisan? It would make more sense for YY to have such an illusion I would think.

The reason why they had it be Chu Yue was for her to see Yu Shisan in this child - this child who is named after him. For her to put two and two together about who his parents are. I don't see why she would imagine it. As I said, if she was going to imagine anything, it would be Yu Shisan himself.

I'm not ruling out the illusion idea. it's a valid interpretation. But I don't think it's a fact.

That's fair enough. The show starts off with them both having faked their deaths. So it's kind of fitting to me that the show ends with them doing the same. It all circles back to where it starts. Only this time they're both at peace together - with the delegation always riding with them in spirit.

It's also a show where they fly, magically heal each other and can use human face masks to transform into other people. So I try to not to put real-world limitations on what they can and can't survive.

However, if one does take it as illusion (still would be a weirdly specific illusion for Chu Yue to be having after 10+ years imo. ) The idea that they all died, while sad...is okay with me too? It's like, well, at least they're all together haha.

So I'm mostly satisfied. A lot more satisfied than I thought I would be. I get that it won't be for everyone.

I think because she was imagining the delegation and Ruyi and NZY riding together on horseback. So there is a question in some people's minds about whether Ning Shi san was also in her imagination. But then where does the illusion stop. She was holding this child while imagining seeing something over his shoulder. Once they vanish, she follows the child. So... if Ning Shi San was also an illusion does she know he's not real, like she knew the delegation on horseback weren't real?

Why imagine him in the first place? Why imagine Ruyi and NZY's having this hypothetical child 10+ years later when she could have imagined Yu Shisan standing in front of her? lol