Ouch, this is getting complicated. Yes, as some said, the exes are back. BUT... It looks like they are part of the experiment. At least, the FL's ex-boyfriend is. Wait and see until the next episode for the ex-best friend.
The ex-boyfriend's mission is to bring the FL back. Where? in her technological coffin?
If so, did she escape? Or was there an accident, like... the car accident was in fact the coffin with the FL inside transported to another place, there was an accident, the truck containing her fell off the bridge and she survived that accident but her brain was damaged and she couldn't remember being part of the experiment?
Now the company doing that Matrix experiment wants her back. Why don't they abduct her? It's not as if they don't know where she is. She is living under her own identity, she is doing make up ads on social medias, it's easy to find her.
Interesting that the ML is described twice as a virus. Meaning, IMO, that he is not part of the experiment but is derailing it.
My initial guess was this is like Total Recall virtual reality. Is that what you are thinking? To add if so: maybe…
Time travel in a Cdrama? Huh huh. The only drama I have watched where it was actually time travel was "Love in time" (https://kisskh.at/707133-my-secret-roommate) and even then, it was more on the magical side than the scientific side and there was the FL from the future in a coma.
All this hair saloon thing makes no sense to me. FL was a business woman in the previous world. ML looks rich.…
The simulation theory is one theory. The other is the parallel world/time travel one but China generally doesn't like those dramas so writers usually try to avoid censorship by having their dramas NOT being about time travel/parallel world, in the end.
I think if the simulation theory is the real one, once the FL realizes that, she will have accomplished so much on her own that it will be easier for her to accept that the Matrix world where she was rich was never her real world.
Because in this real world, she made friends, maybe found love, started from having no money once she woke up, to being a cleaner, then a hair stylist, then a make up artist and who knows where she will stop? Maybe she'll end up a succesful business woman on her own.
Ep 11/12 - I think I understand why some people don't like this drama (I still do): it lacks balance.
I explain: the "official story" is that the FL is from a parallel world and wants to go back home. Both she and the ML are followed, there's a mystery, a shady ex-boyfriend, the ML's strange best friend, an organisation which is responsible for the FL's situation...
And it only takes 5/7 minutes out of each episode, out of 40 minutes. The rest is dedicated to the FL's career. I can see why it's important to see her grow from a spoiled rich girl to a confident young woman who managed not only to survive but also to thrive.
But it takes too much screentime. There should be more balance between the mystery/investigation and her career.
Maybe it will change in the future but there are 30 episodes and I think there will be more screentime dedicated to the FL's career. She will probably end up creating her own brand with the teacher (the one with the atrocious fashion style).
Spoiler discussion:
- so, the FL's boyfriend in the B world (or real world, IMO), is the same boyfriend as in the A world (the Matrix world IMO). It's possible that he was already involved in the Matrix Organisation and proposed to his girlfriend to be part of the simulation for money.
What's the goal of this Matrix world, if this is the right theory? I mean, why?
- to create a new virtual game?
- to solve criminality (sending criminals in a Matrix world for life)?
- to sell a new experimental life for the wealthy people?
- to go full Matrix and solve overpopulation by sending people into this fake world where they would live and die, and therefore maybe not consuming services, food, water, energy, public services, infrastructure....
- to learn? If the FL spent 5 years in the Matrix, for her, it was her entire life, aka more than 25 years. And what she "learned" in this universe, she uses once back in her real world. Think about the progresses in science humanity could do if scientists spent a whole life in the Matrix learning in their fields, only to be "awaken" after just 2 years and be able to put into practise in the real world what they learned in the Matrix world?
- Or maybe the technology has advanced enough to create this Matrix world and humans being the way they are, they just want to experiment and see what this new technology is about (generally, it turns out wrong).
I wonder if the FL wasn't supposed to get out of the Matrix sooner but she was so pleased with her new life that she refused and they had to kick her out? -
If you read comments from a few days ago, you could see that the more plausible theory is that there is no time…
If there really is time travel/dimension travel ,then it's possible that his friend was from the same world as the FL (the one where she is rich). Maybe he traveled to the B world (where the FL is poor) and there, he had no double.
He stayed there for a while, became friend with the ML and then went back to his world.
That would explain why there was no record about him: he didn't exist in this world.
Random speculation: Did this idea ever cross someone's mind that there's no such thing as time travel or another…
If you read comments from a few days ago, you could see that the more plausible theory is that there is no time travel or parallel world travel and that there's only one FL. She "vanished" from her world but in fact was part of a scientific experiment where she lived in a new world as if it was her own. Think Matrix with Keanu Reeves.
Why? She had huge medical bills to pay (her grand-mother was sick) and out of the blue, she could pay them all. So it looks like she had a contract with the company making those kind of experiments.
Also, in episode 9, we see that there's an organisation behind the situation, with a modern HQ, a female boss and people working for them who can follow our leads.
Now is she is out the Matrix but she doesn't remember her real world, just the fake one where she was a rich girl.
And if there is really time travel involved, the censorship won't allow it and in the last episode, it will be revealed that it was a dream, or the FL was in a coma, or had traveled into a book, a drama, a comic book, like in many other dramas of the same genre.
Yes probably, I also thought about experiment, it will pass with censorship
I thought the same after watching one of the trailers. It has the advantage of avoid censorship and also to be more original than the other dramas which used the old coma/dream/traveling into a book-novel-movie-comic book-video game...
She could have accepted this experiment for money to pay her grand-mother's medical bill but maybe she forgot about her real world and was sent back forcefully?
Wait and see. So far, the experiment theory and the real parallel world theory are my two favorite ones.
Since there is time travel and parallel world travel involved (at least until the very last episode where the writers will probably go creative to pass by censorship!), do you think Mr Xu traveled back and forth more than once and not just in a parallel world but in time, too?
I mean, in the first world, he gave the FL the phone and told her to be precisely on that bridge, at that precise time. Why? Did he know there would be a portal and she would travel, too? What did he say in the first episode, about her "coming to this world"? It seemed to imply that the FL we saw in the first episode was from the B world but didn't remember? So he gave her the phone and the coordinates of the bridge because he somehow knew about some kind of passage at that right time and she needed to go back home, for some reason?
Episodes 7 and 8 sure got intense, compared to the previous ones. Especially episode 7, my god, that one turned violent and nasty so fast, I was in shock! I really didn't expect that turn of events.
The actress is fantastic, I have to say. I had never seen her in a drama or in a movie before but she appears young and talented.
There's another character with the same last name as the FL, which we haven't seen yet, who is he, her brother, cousin?
It was a good drama but the final episodes were boring and finale was rushed very confusing and didn't satisfy…
My interpretation was that they had too much baggage. The point of the FL's 19th life was to solve this endless cycle with the evil spirit murdering her in every life before her 30th birthday.
And that was why she was identical to her first self, and why there was a twin to possess for the dead ML from the first life. To have the two of them meeting again under the same past forms, to awake the FL's souvenirs of that first life which doomed them all and to solve the ML and FL's feelings and to get rid of the evil spirit.
I would have prefered a happy ending but, I don't know, somehow, that ended up logically. A spirit can't possess a body for a long time, stealing the life that the previous "owner" had created. It's not fair to the past owner, to his friends and family.
And from what I have heard, the webtoon had a bad ending so I prefer this one.
Your thoughts are all interesting and I’m not saying you’re wrong, but I had a different interpretation of…
She did, but I thought that in her rich world, her fashion style wasn't trashy. In that vision, I thought her clothing style didn't correspond her. So I thought for sure that it was the other XY, even though I had trouble computing her with the trailers (the cute high school girl) but after the 5th episode with the grandmother... hmmm.
Hmmmm, after the 5th and 6th episode, where we learn that the FL in world B dropped college because her grand-mother was sick and she needed money... she came back to pay for her grandmother's medical bills but after that, she never came back, right?
I could see, from the ML's face after learning that, that he connected the dots about "how" his friend got that money and he was devastated (escort girl, prostitute, stripper?). And then I remember the fainting spell the FL had in the 2nd episode, where she saw, in that golden light, her other self and she was dressed in a provocative way, so yeah, I suppose could have been a call girl or an escort girl (like, not having sex with her clients).
Hmm, I 'm wondering now, where is this other FL? Because at first, I thought that there was one FL, in world B and that FL in world A had died and her father had brought FL from world B because it was too hard for him.
Now, I don't know. It looks like there are two XY, since world B's XY appeared in a flash to the FL, telling her that she didn't belong here.
Unless the universe jumping means jumping into the body of a double and taking over?
Really, I don't know, there are so many possibilities. Even if we know that with China's censorship, it's very possible that in the last episode or last minutes of the last episode, it will be revealed to be a dream. Or the FL in a coma. Or the FL traveled into a book, a movie, a video game, a comic book, a tv series. Or the ML or FL was just writing a novel that we are watching. That's the kind of thing that writers and producers come up with to escape censorship.
Although, if the writers wanted to be original, they could tell that it was a social experiment that the FL agreed to for money, or another kind of experiment where she believed that world A (where she was wealthy) was her real world when it was just the Matrix world?
So, the ML's friend, the one who had vanished, was not from the B world (aka the world where the FL is poor) since the police can't find anything about him AT ALL. I think he traveled from the A (rich girl world) world to the B world.
How and why? I wonder, since the FL's father is soooo rich, if he didn't pay for the parallel world experiment? In that case, why would he do that?
Hmmm, maybe, just maybe... he lost his daughter in the A world and he found his daughter's double in the B world where she had lost her parents and was poor? So she traveled to the rich world maybe for a visit but wanted to go back to her world so she was... brainwashed to forget her real past? I find interesting that in the A world, her father is alive (not sure about her mother) while in the B world, her parents are dead. Maybe there's something here.
I'm going to watch the other episodes, this theory is based only on the first two episodes. But it's a riveting drama so far.
It's a common occurrence for haters to downrate a drama on mdl. Its happening to many other dramas too like the…
I wonder if putting the ratings down the page and not up wouldn't help? Because that's the first thing that people see and they miss out on some great dramas because of a bad rating.
Someone deliberately giving worst ratings. It is not good. From seeing that ratings, someone will not watch the…
I have noticed that lately. Before that, I wasn't paying attention but I was watching a lovely underrated rom com and it was killed in the ratings, while the reviews from people who had posted them were mostly positive.
After that, I was watching two other Cdramas, one costume drama and one fantaisy/sci-fi Cdrama and I noticed the same thing. I liked those dramas, not madly in love but those were original, well played, well written dramas (Parallel World and The legend of Zhuohua, which deserved for the first one a 9 and the second one a 8.8 at least) and I was shocked that those didn't get higher ratings.
So now I'm wary of the ratings and I pay more attention, if it's a completed drama, to the reviews because in a review, people have to explain exactly why they hated or loved a drama. And since tastes are subjective, what someone hated might be something I loved, in a drama.
And now, I'm wondering how many good dramas I have missed because I trusted the ratings instead of taking the time to read the reviews.
But yeah, it's annoying that some people are just rating bombing this drama. I have only watched 2 episodes but I plan to watch the rest. I found it well made.
The ex-boyfriend's mission is to bring the FL back. Where? in her technological coffin?
If so, did she escape? Or was there an accident, like... the car accident was in fact the coffin with the FL inside transported to another place, there was an accident, the truck containing her fell off the bridge and she survived that accident but her brain was damaged and she couldn't remember being part of the experiment?
Now the company doing that Matrix experiment wants her back. Why don't they abduct her? It's not as if they don't know where she is. She is living under her own identity, she is doing make up ads on social medias, it's easy to find her.
Interesting that the ML is described twice as a virus. Meaning, IMO, that he is not part of the experiment but is derailing it.
I think if the simulation theory is the real one, once the FL realizes that, she will have accomplished so much on her own that it will be easier for her to accept that the Matrix world where she was rich was never her real world.
Because in this real world, she made friends, maybe found love, started from having no money once she woke up, to being a cleaner, then a hair stylist, then a make up artist and who knows where she will stop? Maybe she'll end up a succesful business woman on her own.
I explain: the "official story" is that the FL is from a parallel world and wants to go back home. Both she and the ML are followed, there's a mystery, a shady ex-boyfriend, the ML's strange best friend, an organisation which is responsible for the FL's situation...
And it only takes 5/7 minutes out of each episode, out of 40 minutes. The rest is dedicated to the FL's career. I can see why it's important to see her grow from a spoiled rich girl to a confident young woman who managed not only to survive but also to thrive.
But it takes too much screentime. There should be more balance between the mystery/investigation and her career.
Maybe it will change in the future but there are 30 episodes and I think there will be more screentime dedicated to the FL's career. She will probably end up creating her own brand with the teacher (the one with the atrocious fashion style).
Spoiler discussion:
- so, the FL's boyfriend in the B world (or real world, IMO), is the same boyfriend as in the A world (the Matrix world IMO). It's possible that he was already involved in the Matrix Organisation and proposed to his girlfriend to be part of the simulation for money.
What's the goal of this Matrix world, if this is the right theory? I mean, why?
- to create a new virtual game?
- to solve criminality (sending criminals in a Matrix world for life)?
- to sell a new experimental life for the wealthy people?
- to go full Matrix and solve overpopulation by sending people into this fake world where they would live and die, and therefore maybe not consuming services, food, water, energy, public services, infrastructure....
- to learn? If the FL spent 5 years in the Matrix, for her, it was her entire life, aka more than 25 years. And what she "learned" in this universe, she uses once back in her real world. Think about the progresses in science humanity could do if scientists spent a whole life in the Matrix learning in their fields, only to be "awaken" after just 2 years and be able to put into practise in the real world what they learned in the Matrix world?
- Or maybe the technology has advanced enough to create this Matrix world and humans being the way they are, they just want to experiment and see what this new technology is about (generally, it turns out wrong).
I wonder if the FL wasn't supposed to get out of the Matrix sooner but she was so pleased with her new life that she refused and they had to kick her out?
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He stayed there for a while, became friend with the ML and then went back to his world.
That would explain why there was no record about him: he didn't exist in this world.
Why? She had huge medical bills to pay (her grand-mother was sick) and out of the blue, she could pay them all. So it looks like she had a contract with the company making those kind of experiments.
Also, in episode 9, we see that there's an organisation behind the situation, with a modern HQ, a female boss and people working for them who can follow our leads.
Now is she is out the Matrix but she doesn't remember her real world, just the fake one where she was a rich girl.
And if there is really time travel involved, the censorship won't allow it and in the last episode, it will be revealed that it was a dream, or the FL was in a coma, or had traveled into a book, a drama, a comic book, like in many other dramas of the same genre.
She could have accepted this experiment for money to pay her grand-mother's medical bill but maybe she forgot about her real world and was sent back forcefully?
Wait and see. So far, the experiment theory and the real parallel world theory are my two favorite ones.
I mean, in the first world, he gave the FL the phone and told her to be precisely on that bridge, at that precise time. Why? Did he know there would be a portal and she would travel, too? What did he say in the first episode, about her "coming to this world"? It seemed to imply that the FL we saw in the first episode was from the B world but didn't remember? So he gave her the phone and the coordinates of the bridge because he somehow knew about some kind of passage at that right time and she needed to go back home, for some reason?
The actress is fantastic, I have to say. I had never seen her in a drama or in a movie before but she appears young and talented.
There's another character with the same last name as the FL, which we haven't seen yet, who is he, her brother, cousin?
And that was why she was identical to her first self, and why there was a twin to possess for the dead ML from the first life. To have the two of them meeting again under the same past forms, to awake the FL's souvenirs of that first life which doomed them all and to solve the ML and FL's feelings and to get rid of the evil spirit.
I would have prefered a happy ending but, I don't know, somehow, that ended up logically. A spirit can't possess a body for a long time, stealing the life that the previous "owner" had created. It's not fair to the past owner, to his friends and family.
And from what I have heard, the webtoon had a bad ending so I prefer this one.
I could see, from the ML's face after learning that, that he connected the dots about "how" his friend got that money and he was devastated (escort girl, prostitute, stripper?). And then I remember the fainting spell the FL had in the 2nd episode, where she saw, in that golden light, her other self and she was dressed in a provocative way, so yeah, I suppose could have been a call girl or an escort girl (like, not having sex with her clients).
Hmm, I 'm wondering now, where is this other FL? Because at first, I thought that there was one FL, in world B and that FL in world A had died and her father had brought FL from world B because it was too hard for him.
Now, I don't know. It looks like there are two XY, since world B's XY appeared in a flash to the FL, telling her that she didn't belong here.
Unless the universe jumping means jumping into the body of a double and taking over?
Really, I don't know, there are so many possibilities. Even if we know that with China's censorship, it's very possible that in the last episode or last minutes of the last episode, it will be revealed to be a dream. Or the FL in a coma. Or the FL traveled into a book, a movie, a video game, a comic book, a tv series. Or the ML or FL was just writing a novel that we are watching. That's the kind of thing that writers and producers come up with to escape censorship.
Although, if the writers wanted to be original, they could tell that it was a social experiment that the FL agreed to for money, or another kind of experiment where she believed that world A (where she was wealthy) was her real world when it was just the Matrix world?
How and why? I wonder, since the FL's father is soooo rich, if he didn't pay for the parallel world experiment? In that case, why would he do that?
Hmmm, maybe, just maybe... he lost his daughter in the A world and he found his daughter's double in the B world where she had lost her parents and was poor? So she traveled to the rich world maybe for a visit but wanted to go back to her world so she was... brainwashed to forget her real past? I find interesting that in the A world, her father is alive (not sure about her mother) while in the B world, her parents are dead. Maybe there's something here.
I'm going to watch the other episodes, this theory is based only on the first two episodes. But it's a riveting drama so far.
After that, I was watching two other Cdramas, one costume drama and one fantaisy/sci-fi Cdrama and I noticed the same thing. I liked those dramas, not madly in love but those were original, well played, well written dramas (Parallel World and The legend of Zhuohua, which deserved for the first one a 9 and the second one a 8.8 at least) and I was shocked that those didn't get higher ratings.
So now I'm wary of the ratings and I pay more attention, if it's a completed drama, to the reviews because in a review, people have to explain exactly why they hated or loved a drama. And since tastes are subjective, what someone hated might be something I loved, in a drama.
And now, I'm wondering how many good dramas I have missed because I trusted the ratings instead of taking the time to read the reviews.
But yeah, it's annoying that some people are just rating bombing this drama. I have only watched 2 episodes but I plan to watch the rest. I found it well made.