They can't even play the "don't want to offend anyone" card because they literally kicked out and publicly humiliated previous contestants!!Arclei:
It's because those contestants weren't from powerful families like Yang and He, but still. It comes to a point, and the drama's trying to play in my face. The rules of polite society for that time period would definitely allow you to kick out prominent guests if you've proved they're poisoning other guests and sowing general discord. What a weak excuse.
Especially in a household as, I guess... misandrist(?) as the Rongs, you would think that such behaviour from the men would be completely unacceptable, and they keep TELLING us that it is, and yet, these absolute thugs are still here.Arclei:
It only gets worse...
She's all talk!!Arclei:
That part. Because she'll tell people off, but there are no real consequences. I guess she learned that from Grandma Rong because what do you mean my sisters are still here when they act the way they act? They should be exiled. Lemme run the family with my loyal girl cousin and call it a day.
Who's been actually running the place with an iron fist before them?Arclei:
Probably the shady butler lowkey. She seems to have more actual grit than any of the Rong women.
Out of the decent women, there IS still FL's cousin? Maybe she can take him?Arclei:
Hmmm...idk...🤭
NOT HIM TOO, GIRL, IS THERE EVEN A REASON FOR ME TO CONTINUE?!Arclei:
Okay, lemme stop being an alarmist lol. It's nothing crazy. It's to be expected actually. Let me know when you figure it out.
Like it was so... low-budget jousting competition-coded. Oh my GOD- it was criiiiinge.Arclei:
Really?? 😂 It just looked like every other fight scene in a historical I've seen. No more, no less (visually). The fight scenes in other historicals just go on for longer, which I would've liked.
I agree about the other challenges not being interesting though. The drama happening behind them or outside of them was more fun. The writers could've put more effort into the tournament as a whole.
I was hoping for, but not holding my breath for, all the sisters to get paired up.Arclei:
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This entirely, but idk, the first episode was giving me thriller, suspenseArclei:
More is coming.
Maybe you saw through the deceitful first ep and already knew what was coming, so you were just waiting for it to go back to regular scheduling XDArclei:
I just automatically expect historicals to have wonky pacing, so I figured the drama would swing back around to the suspense. And it's starting to by ep 14. It's feeling a little Agatha Christie. Nothing impressive, but there's mystery and suspense.
Like, remember, there was human trafficking and implied cannibalism in the first episode.Arclei:
My guess is we'll revisit the human trafficking when ML gets his memory back? I hope so lol. We certainly can't be done with the wife murder case that got him "killed" in the first place. So I think the suspense will be back.
Also, some of the stuff you mentioned is a bit on the spoilery side, so you might wanna tag some of it so that no one accidentally stumbles upon it before watching.Arclei:
Oops! I went back and added spoiler tags. Thanks for the heads up.
LEAVE THEM IN THEIR FLUFFY CLOAKS, IT ADDS AURA!!! (men in floofy asf cloaks look so cute, plsssssss)Arclei:
I do love the winter imagery in historicals. Everything looks so emo and poetic and tragic, then BAM—cute, floofy cloak.
I noticed the same thing! To the point that I was wondering if they HAD introduced her! She barely shows up.Arclei:
That's why I had such a hard time remembering her face! But she's around now.
Kinda bummed that there's not one single decent nor competent sister in that family...Arclei:
Me too...we just have the girl cousin :-/ Maybe we'll have the 6th sister too if she's just pretending. I was optimistic to get a little more "sisterhood" in this drama, but we still aren't there yet. Maybe in 2027...
Does FL truly manage everything herself?Arclei:
It doesn't seem like she'd mind help, but her sisters are too busy hating for teamwork lol.
Also, are they implying that she ISN'T a legitimate daughter? Why does she talk about her mom as if it isn't the same mother as the others? Her mother seems to have been a maid, so did FL's dad have an affair, or was she adopted into the family? Who is in the know about this?Arclei:
Yup. I'm pretty sure the sisters who share the same mom are FL, 4th sister, and 6th sister. They refer to the 2nd sister as a different "branch" of the family, and the 3rd sister and the brother have the same mom, so that leaves the 5th sister. The drama hasn't gotten into anyone's mom yet though.
I wonder if the 5th sister's pretending to be blind too, but that would be lazy writing if she and the 6th sister were faking or exaggerating their disabilities.
Girl... we the same 'cause this is me with pretty much all evil women!!!! I-can-fix-her men FTW!! (and also just boytoys that can't fix them but either love them anyway or are forced to be with them 😈). I want her and the 2nd sister to get a husband SO bad. I think the 4th one has potential to calm the fuck down if she... ehm... has something to relieve her pent-up frustrations on ehm, ehm. The 2nd sister seems more far gone and dangerous... maybe the yandere dude could be a nice fucked-up match for her? XDArclei:
Okay, good 'cause I was like...I hate you, but you should still get a man 🙈 It would be such a good I-can-fix-her arc. I agree that the 4th sister isn't too far gone. She's angry more than anything, and anger's a secondary emotion that's usually covering up hurt, sadness, grief...etc. The drama's tossed out an explanation or two about her past that kind of explains her behavior, but it's not nearly enough for character development. We need more.
The calmest person is often the most dangerous, so 2nd sister is totally the one deserving of the most caution, but like we said...you get a pretty boy...you get a pretty boy—EVERY BODY GETS A PRETTY BOY.

Tho... tbh..................................... I'd kinda like the 4th sister and the scholar together in a fucked-up kinda way 😭 Like, I KNOW SHE HARASSES HIM, BUT ALSO.... I'm evil 😈 I think it'd be nice and messy and.... I think scholars make good boy toys for evil women, what can I say?Arclei:
I wouldn't mind that if she were written a little better, but right now I ship him with the 5th sister because she's nasty too in a different way. I do like that there are so many evil women to choose from in this drama lol. Maybe it's a good thing most of the sisters suck. But one day I want to see a drama where an evil woman likes her sister and is evil to everyone else. That would be so interesting 😩
I feel you on the evil lady x scholar pairing though. It's gonna hit every time. I think it works because the scholar has the knowledge and patience to "fix" her.
Girl, the way I was in shock and lowkey having the time of my life when the 4th sister was bullying the scholar??????? Oh, she's NASTY!!!! My poor baby was tricked, humiliated, and harassed!! It was cute how ML, being the nosy mf that he is, hurried to save him. I can't tell you much, I ADORE RR moments like this, my BREAD AND BUTTERArclei:
AHAAAAAA!!! GIRL I WAS WAITING FOR YOU TO GET THERE!!!! It took me like thirty minutes to watch that scene because I kept rewinding! He was so precious and scandalized!! He's acting more like a monk than the dude who was almost a monk 😂 But 4th Sister was VICIOUS. She said: all that avoiding and you still fell into my grasp. My jaw dropped. It was this scene that made me sad she doesn't have a love interest, and isn't more central and fleshed out. I could totally see her being jealous of her boy cousin's feelings for FL, and bullying/humiliating him instead because she wants him to drop out of the husband tournament. Imagine her purposely scheming to make him lose, but then she gets worried when she sees someone else (aka Yang and He) actually trying to hurt him instead of just make him throw in the towel. Imagine her watching the challenges and freezing up, and getting angry because he's getting hurt for her sister, who she hates. YUMYUMYUMYUM!!!
During the scene where the scholar gets humiliated is also when I started really shipping him and the 5th sister because he previously thought she was just an innocent blind girl. I loved him getting to see her ugly side in that moment. The way the realization dawned on him was *chef's kiss*. Now I just hope the writing does them justice, but that might be stupidly optimistic of me considering it's already dropped the ball in a moderate way. It's not exploring what it needs to be exploring with them.
It's fueling my sadismArclei:
My bigger streak 🙈 (despite my masochistic moments)
Not ML turning on his homie now!! My poor scholar bb is too naive for the experts of concubine ML- he trusts hiiiiimmm :( NooooArclei:
Yeah...the male bonds are not strong in this drama. There's no brotherhood here either lol. The men very much prioritize romantic relationships, which is very RR lol.
*deep sigh* Glory is somewhat entertaining,Arclei:
I'm quite entertained despite my disappointments and critiques. I'm currently annoyed with a particular storyline, but I can see it being the second historical drama I actually finish.
On a positive notepotatocouch:
Yeah, I'm on the same boat. I keep clicking the next episode and being curious about what's gonna happen, so at least there's that. The leads do have me curious, the 5th sister and the scholar too... ML getting his memories back? Hmmm, not so much xD I could lowkey do without it
Ep 10potatocouch:
Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuughhhhhh

Oooh gotcha. Was it good?potatocouch:
It was... okay. I wasn't a fan, and it wasn't memorable.
Flashback to me walking out the theater after liking Arrival while all my friends fell asleep/hated it.potatocouch:
Never heard of this film, but the trailer does seem interesting! You're way more into sci-fi than I thought you'd be (I guess SW was the exception, haha). Seems like you like things more because of your own opinions, while your friends like it when it starts trending xD They need some more media appreciation training
Memento's a great movie if you're looking for a good m*ndf*ck.potatocouch:
Thanks for the warning, cuz mindfuck is really not my scene xD I like wacky plots and dabble in the absurdism, but I draw the line here usually. Interstellar was bad enough
No no no hahaha. I was saying when it came out, I entertained watching it because the premise sounded interestingpotatocouch:
Oooooohhhhh, gotcha! Well, it IS pretty good, but it's also SO heavy. Like I used to watch it half an episode at a time. It's very it-gets-worse-ism focused, if that makes sense, yknow? So be prepared.
FL is incredibly strong and badass, though. So fiercely protective of those she loves and also of people in need of help, in general. She's very heroic for being a woman in Joseon. And ML? Oh, such a lovesick pup. He's so, so, so, so proud of his girlboss and will do and does anything for her. ANYTHING. They're so precious.
For a historical kdrama this was VERY RR. For RR in general, it was quite RR, I'm ngl. She protects him a lot, he's weak while she's strong (he gets stronger later), she's a grumpy black cat, and he's the sunshine clingy retriever, she's strong and resilient and he's emotional and sensitive, they take turns thinking they're not good enough for each other, but she also gets to yearn so damn much!!!!!! WE LOVE TO SEE WOMEN YEARN!!! Like it's a fun time.
And it also has an ADORABLE sister-in-law & brother-in-law dynamic that had my heart very full.
It's also a visual stunner. Gonna leave ya this out of context GIF and stop rambling ^^
Are we watching it then dissecting it on Saturday? Or chatting as we're watching it?potatocouch:
How do you prefer? I've already seen it twice, so it'd probably be more fun to chat and watch (and we can finish on Sat if we get tired or it gets late), but let me know what works for you too
Edit: I already set up an alarm and added it to the index under buddy-watch ^^
Li Wu is not only touch starved, but he has the cutest little praise kink.potatocouch:
Girl, you put it into words! He TOTALLY does!!!
The palace could also represent the America arc. Like, he does go and it does a number on him, and that's why he comes back as a Green Tea.potatocouch:
BROOOOOOO, and then I'm the sadist, huh?! /lh 😂😂
You're such an evil genius for that. You just want him whumped as much as I do, lmfao. Valid asf. That's a great take!! Her abandoning him to the capital would be 1000x times worse than anything else, idk how bro will have forgiven her... That's BRUTAL.
But I'm not opposed to her being the one to rescue him from it, too... Like imagine she goes back to the capital about twoish years later (6 YEARS IS TOO LONG PLS) and she finds him all helpless and pitiful and upsetti at her (maybe recently got whumped due to his superior officer or smth, he could've just had a good flogging or smth, idk) and she gets super worried about him so she takes him back home to recover. He gives her the silent treatment but is still clingy (maybe even more clingy cuz he isn't feeling well. Girl, can you imagine him falling asleep on her shoulder while in the carriage? Augh, that'd be so good and RIP bro's neck). Then he starts helping the prefect out around their hometown and eventually requests to be transferred there permanently. CJ ends up accepting his decision and also being grateful that she gets to keep him close and protect him <3
And of COURSE we gotta have the scheming didi flaunting his didi status in front of her wealthy suitors. God, those banquets finna be MESSY. Also, LW is totally the type to aphrodisiac himself to get special care from his jiejie. Like, plssss 🙏
Wait, this is kinda reminding me of A Dream Like the True Love.
The rules of polite society for that time period would definitely allow you to kick out prominent guests if you've proved they're poisoning other guests and sowing general discord. What a weak excuse.potatocouch:
Absolutely!!! Lowkey, how are we supposed to take the Rong family seriously when not only are they weak asf when punishing those who harm their own family, but also when they show such blatant favoritism to wealthier or more powerful people? Like, yikes, bro. I don't think that's coming off the way they intended.
It only gets worse...potatocouch:
WORSE?!?!?!
there are no real consequences. I guess she learned that from Grandma Rongpotatocouch:
I've not gotten to the big Grandma Rong L, but yikes... It does seem to be something that runs in the family. Genuinely a miracle that family is running at all?! No one has a backbone, and those that do are vicious and cruel (But still too incompetent to actually take power).
Probably the shady butler lowkey. She seems to have more actual grit than any of the Rong women.potatocouch:
You know... that would make sense. I kinda really like her. xD
Hmmm...idk...🤭potatocouch:
......... O-O I need to catch up to see what all this is about
It's to be expected actually. Let me know when you figure it out.potatocouch:
....Okay...... 😕
Really?? 😂 It just looked like every other fight scene in a historical I've seen.potatocouch:
Oh, not just the fight scene, everything about it xD I was almost expecting FL to wrap her handkerchief around ML's spear or smth, lmao. I think for me, the location just looked so damn awkward that it made it extra cringe to watch.
More is coming.potatocouch:
Ah, great... the sandwich method. Because the drama couldn't just be 24 episodes, why that would be ridiculous.
Oops! I went back and added spoiler tags. Thanks for the heads up.potatocouch:
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Everything looks so emo and poetic and tragic, then BAM—cute, floofy cloak.potatocouch:
I KNOW RIGHT??!!! The vibes ALWAYS hit so hard, but then they NEVER linger!!!!! UUUUGGGHHH
I was optimistic to get a little more "sisterhood" in this drama, but we still aren't there yet. Maybe in 2027...potatocouch:
Me too. I was expecting it to be complicated and messy as rivaling siblings would be, but I was hoping it would be nuanced and maybe somewhat complex and varied. With each dynamic between the sisters feeling unique and fresh, and each sister having good and bad qualities, and not just a boring af "everyone against the perfect FL" bullcrap you get in typical harem dramas too. The only silver lining is that they're not fighting over men (yet).
It doesn't seem like she'd mind help, but her sisters are too busy hating for teamwork lolpotatocouch:
From what I've gathered, they're also hating because they're not allowed to participate. Like in ep 7, the 4th sister literally tells her grandma that "idle hands are a devil's workshop," after repeatedly begging to be allowed to go into the field, so it kinda seems like they aren't allowed to participate, which, if not by FL, it must be by Grandma Rong. Which begs so many questions...
I'm pretty sure the sisters who share the same mom are FL, 4th sister, and 6th sisterpotatocouch:
Oh, wait what?! That's so weird!!!! But they did at least try to establish this dynamic with 4th sister being the only one to really challenge FL openly, and both having a complicated relationship with the 6th. Also explains why 3rd sister is the only one close to the brother and why 2nd sister is so quiet and calculating. She can't afford to be reckless like the 4th.
Maybe the others are cousins? Just like FL's girl cousin, whose mother married out of the family. Those who take in husbands raise their children to be siblings? FL, 4th, & 6th being the daughters of the eldest, and the others being the children of the following sisters? Maybe 5th sister is the daughter of a Rong son? Would explain why she has an inferiority complex... Born from a man in a matriarchy AND a maid? Oof.... That's rough.
I just have to wonder... where are all their parents? How come no one lived?? You can't tell me they all died escorting goods to the capital. No single parent is alive? If it were just the two then I'm like, okay, that tracks, but if there's at least 4 sets of parents... it starts becoming harder to explain...
Also, did the brother's character bother you too, or was that just me? Ugh, what a waste of an interesting character. As the only son in the family, you would think he would be a unique and interesting perosn, spoiled and pampered kinda like the only daughter in an all-boys family would be. Cherished but as a pretty vase, not really allowed to do a whole lot. I would understand if it isn't quite the same because the outside world is still very patriarchal, so he would probably still have some macho ambitions, but I think they could've played into this a lot better than just making him a bland dumbass like in every other drama and then not showing him again.
I think a personality more similar to FL's not-cousin would've suited him. Spoiled and pampered, but still scheming. He could then help his sister secure power in the family by helping her plot rather than being an absolute nuisance and crybaby (I could totally see him being Grandma Rong's fav grandchild because he's just 'so innocent and sweet' and him totally using that to his and his sister's advantage while sending devious smirks at his other sisters). And/or he could have an interesting storyline with maybe an outside, poorer merchant woman scheming to get into the Rong family and take over the business in some way, using him as her entry point. I think making him somewhat of a homme fatale/green-tea would've be INSANELY good. But if not that, just making him a spoiled brat that enjoys the luxurious life of not having to ever work, while having everything served to him, but in a more RR way than is usually the case. He could get a kick out of getting close with his future brothers-in-law and sowing discord. But idk, he doesn't really show up a whole lot, so maybe they'll do more with him later, though I doubt it'll be anything remotely interesting.
She's angry more than anything, and anger's a secondary emotion that's usually covering up hurt, sadness, grief...etc.potatocouch:
Yes, yes, yes!!! Hoping she gets more development, but not holding my breath
you get a pretty boy...you get a pretty boy—EVERY BODY GETS A PRETTY BOY.potatocouch:
YESSS!!! If there's one thing in abundance in this drama, it's definitely pretty men. Idk how they managed to make a female-focused, female-centric matriarchal drama focus on MOSTLY men so far. Truly a skill of all time.
I do like that there are so many evil women to choose from in this drama lol.potatocouch:
Right? At least there's that!
I also would love evil women who aren't evil towards each other. It's quite rare. Usually, they still hate women the most...
It took me like thirty minutes to watch that scene because I kept rewinding! He was so precious and scandalized!!potatocouch:
OF COURSE YOU'D LOVE IT TOO!!!! A KINDRED SPIRIT!!! GIRL THAT WAS INSANEEEEEE!!! I'm GIFing that scene
But 4th Sister was VICIOUS. She said: all that avoiding and you still fell into my grasp. My jaw dropped.potatocouch:
Absolutely SCRUMPTIOUS!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I could totally see her being jealous of her boy cousin's feelings for FL, and bullying/humiliating him instead because she wants him to drop out of the husband tournament. Imagine her purposely scheming to make him lose, but then she gets worried when she sees someone else (aka Yang and He) actually trying to hurt him instead of just make him throw in the towel. Imagine her watching the challenges and freezing up, and getting angry because he's getting hurt for her sister, who she hates. YUMYUMYUMYUM!!!potatocouch:
![]() | Giiiiiiiiiiiiirl, the way you COOOOOKED with thiiiisss!!! OMG, THIS WOULD BE ACTUALLY INSANELY GOOOOOODDD!!!! He's so perfect to be pursued by a cunning and vicious woman who can outmaneuver any scheming he might try to do. We could've gotten so much good unhinged, possessive yandere-core moments as we got with the scholar, but with big watering eyes, cutie cousin being rendered a helpless, flustered mess. OMG WE WERE ROBBED!!!! I can also see her REALLY liking his bratty tendencies. She'd get a kick out of it FOR SURE. Ohhhhhhh, she would be LIVID if anyone touched her bbg, ESPECIALLY hurting him?! AUGH- You know those two guys would be GONE if she had gotten involved. Absolute bare minimum they would been bedridden for a few days... maybe even a couple of dead servants. You never know. |
| And I can just see her being extra furious when it's FL that gets to save him and be the gentlewoman because she always arrives just a few moments too late. Oh, the hatred burning in her eyes would be exquisite. And we could get yummy forced kisses... and cousin pinned to the wall, to the table, to the bed. AND.... if we wanna be really evil... We could have her force herself on him in a more intense way 😈😏 And then go to Grandma Rong, all like "omggggggg- I lost controooolllll, I didn't mean iiiiiiittttt" I applaud you. I was being short-sighted and missed the potential... | |
I loved him getting to see her ugly side in that moment. The way the realization dawned on him was *chef's kiss*.potatocouch:
I know right???!!! I'm really happy that she is as vicious as her other sisters and isn't just reduced to the 'innocent disabled girl'. And him getting to witness that in such a harsh and cruel way? BRUTAL, I LOVED IT!!!! No woman in that family is decent, boy, RUN (towards her 😏 You can fix her, trust!)
My bigger streak 🙈 (despite my masochistic moments)potatocouch:
If Forever Love and The Princess Decree taught me anything, it's that you're about as sadistic as I am. At least when it comes to cruel women and pretty men.
The men very much prioritize romantic relationships, which is very RR lol.potatocouch:
Yup, that is very true xD At least it was cute while it lasted...
I'm currently annoyed with a particular storyline, but I can see it being the second historical drama I actually finish.potatocouch:
That's what matters ultimately! I'm glad you're enjoying it. I am too, but I might be enjoying our conversations about it more than the drama itself, HAHA
Edit:
Another thing! Am I the only one who finds it hilarious and also cringy how the grandma seems to be an NPC stuck on that one chair? Like, why doesn't she go anywhere? What does SHE do all day if she doesn't run the business, the house, or discipline her granddaughters?
There's something else I wanted to mention, but I forgor now :(
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ALSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I found something I need to appreciate with a fellow scholar.
Another Shadows of Desire still.
My bestie in role reversal, ARE YOU SEEING THIS?!??!!??
I am awaiting your reply with tea.
Hello everyone! 👋✨
Commenting to join the club and say hello! I’m so excited to be here and can’t wait to dive into more role reversal stories and gush about strong women and soft, supportive men together. As a strong woman myself, I live for dynamics where the FL takes the lead and the ML isn’t afraid to be gentle, shy, or openly devoted.❤️
Hello everyone! 👋✨Chon3yyy:
Commenting to join the club and say hello! I’m so excited to be here and can’t wait to dive into more role reversal stories and gush about strong women and soft, supportive men together. As a strong woman myself, I live for dynamics where the FL takes the lead and the ML isn’t afraid to be gentle, shy, or openly devoted.❤️
Omg, hello, hello, and welcome to the club! Be sure to take a look around if you haven't already! Hope you enjoy your stay with us! <3 Feel free to jump into any convo you see or bring up your own! Are you watching/have you watched anything interesting lately?
I see you're a fellow Xlov enjoyer... Respect, respect. We were just talking about the pretty boy kpop idols yesterday xD (I'm not into kpop fandoms much, but Xlov are just too my-scene to pass up on)
Arclei:
Omg, hello, hello, and welcome to the club! Be sure to take a look around if you haven't already! Hope you enjoy your stay with us! <3 Feel free to jump into any convo you see or bring up your own! Are you watching/have you watched anything interesting lately?
I see you're a fellow Xlov enjoyer... Respect, respect. We were just talking about the pretty boy kpop idols yesterday xD (I'm not into kpop fandoms much, but Xlov are just too my-scene to pass up on)
Thank you for the warm welcome!!
I actually just finished Hong Luan Yin and I enjoyed it so much. Gotta love a reverse harem, when the FL has everyone wrapped around her finger.
And YESSS, fellow XLOV enjoyer!! 😌✨
Seeing more feminine men representation in K-pop makes me ridiculously happy. The styling, the confidence, the softness without apology? Live for it.
Defiantly will have to see earlier convos for sure tho.
I actually just finished Hong Luan Yin and I enjoyed it so much.Chon3yyy:
Omg, yesssss, this drama was exquisite!!! Seeing a reverse harem where the FL is actually allowed to openly flirt with every man? So refreshing!! She was such a good playgirl (and also actually really cunning and manipulative. We love to see it)!
Mandatory... which love interest/dynamic did you like most? 👀
The styling, the confidence, the softness without apology? Live for it.Chon3yyy:
Bro, RIGHT!??? It's confident and committed femininity for me. So unapologetically GNC. Absolutely delicious! And their songs are such bops too, tho
You're way more into sci-fi than I thought you'd be (I guess SW was the exception, haha).Arclei:
Hahahaha I'll try most things if they have an interesting premise, and if they grab me, they grab me. I've just noticed over the years that sci-fi tends to grab me the least, so it's technically one of my least favorite genres even though I don't dislike it by any means. I like Arrival, Dark Angel, and the Alien franchise a lot (with the exception of Alien vs Predator). As far as sci-fi-esque Asian dramas, I liked Duel and Awaken. Basically, I love a human experiment plot, but not necessarily interplanetary politics, so when I think about it our sci-fi preferences kind of align with our Asian drama preferences lol (which is pretty cool). In case you haven't noticed, I love finding trends in myself and others.
Seems like you like things more because of your own opinions, while your friends like it when it starts trending xDArclei:
Call me jaded, but that's most people 😭
Thanks for the warning, cuz mindfuck is really not my scene xD I like wacky plots and dabble in the absurdism, but I draw the line here usually. Interstellar was bad enoughArclei:
Okay, this is shocking! I kind of pegged you as someone who enjoyed stuff that made your brain hurt in a good way—especially since we have such amazing conversations (I've noticed there's an overlap of people who like feeling their brains throb and good conversationalists LOLLLL. That's not to say the two are mutually exclusive, just an observation).
I love finishing a drama/movie, and sitting through the credits as I stare into space and try to rationalize what I've just seen, the characters' motivations, the themes, how it relates to me and my life...etc.
As much as I like Nolan, I still haven't seen Interstellar. In what ways was it bad?
FL is incredibly strong and badass, though. So fiercely protective of those she loves and also of people in need of help, in general. She's very heroic for being a woman in Joseon. And ML? Oh, such a lovesick pup. He's so, so, so, so proud of his girlboss and will do and does anything for her. ANYTHING. They're so precious.Arclei:
Oh my god! No wonder it called to me. And no wonder it didn't blow up like the Red Sleeve, it was too RR! I'm bumping it higher up on my PTW.
I adore seeing a ML who's proud of his girl boss.
It's also a visual stunner. Gonna leave ya this out of context GIF and stop rambling ^^Arclei:
They're soooo cute 🥰
How do you prefer? I've already seen it twice, so it'd probably be more fun to chat and watch (and we can finish on Sat if we get tired or it gets late), but let me know what works for you tooArclei:
Let's chat and watch! Do you want to use a messaging app?
You're such an evil genius for that. You just want him whumped as much as I do, lmfao. Valid asf.Arclei:
Listennnnn, I've never denied being a whump enjoyer 🙈
But I'm not opposed to her being the one to rescue him from it, too... Like imagine she goes back to the capital about twoish years later (6 YEARS IS TOO LONG PLS) and she finds him all helpless and pitiful and upsetti at her (maybe recently got whumped due to his superior officer or smth, he could've just had a good flogging or smth, idk) and she gets super worried about him so she takes him back home to recover. He gives her the silent treatment but is still clingy (maybe even more clingy cuz he isn't feeling well. Girl, can you imagine him falling asleep on her shoulder while in the carriage? Augh, that'd be so good and RIP bro's neck). Then he starts helping the prefect out around their hometown and eventually requests to be transferred there permanently. CJ ends up accepting his decision and also being grateful that she gets to keep him close and protect him <3Arclei:
This is perfect! She could go to the palace because the Queen or a high-ranking concubine has heard of the products she sells, and requests her presence to see and discuss said products. Cen Jin doesn't want to go because she knows there's a chance she'll run into Li Wu, but you can't exactly refuse the Queen/a royal. So she goes, and after a successful meeting with the Queen, bumps into Li Wu for the first time in two years. He flinches like he's in pain, and he's furious with her. The interaction doesn't go well, and as she's leaving she overhears he's recently been flogged by a superior. She rushes back into the palace, and manages to convince him to come back to her mansion so he can recover. And yes, he falls asleep in the carriage with his head on Cen Jin's shoulder ❤️❤️❤️
Ugh, I love our brains. We're just casually writing fan fiction in the replies of MDL's forums lol. If we pasted everything we've come up with together, that's an outline for a solid fic.
Also, LW is totally the type to aphrodisiac himself to get special care from his jiejie.Arclei:
Bahahaha yes!!!! This would be such a good scene because Cen Jin would know he ingested it on purpose, but she'd humor him anyway.
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Hello everyone! 👋✨
Commenting to join the club and say hello! I’m so excited to be here and can’t wait to dive into more role reversal stories and gush about strong women and soft, supportive men together. As a strong woman myself, I live for dynamics where the FL takes the lead and the ML isn’t afraid to be gentle, shy, or openly devoted.❤️
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