Can't help but wonder whether FL would change her own future...by not attending classes at all 😂 All she does is stalk ML 24/7, guarding his pants at night and whatnot. Cuz let's be real here, unless teaching themselves, most of the people don't remember most of the stuff being taught at school after 10+ years.
Why are there so many time travelling "shoulda, woulda, coulda" plots in dramas lately? Is this the most popular trend in webtoons nowadays? Writers are getting older and having middle age crisis? This drama's characters are cute and all, but can't help but think about how it's just some sad fantasies of a delulu fan dreaming of inserting herself into her favorite k-pop idol's life.
I see comments about why now report it. because she became famous. -> would you want your bully to be famous/innocent…
Or, alternatively, they came out of the woodwork to squeeze money out of her now that she's rich and famous and/or gain attention and/or ruin her career because they are jealous/don't like her/delulu. There are many lying "me too"-ers out there spinning stories for their own interest. Can't trust any side until real proof is presented. And not some, yea like, decades ago we were in the same school and she totally bullied me, totally. You got concrete proof and witnesses? If not, get the fck outta here.
everyone defending her here I hope u know that ur disgusting and u should always believe the victims first
People who cry for blood over alleged, as of yet unproven accusations are called lynch mob. A person should be treated as innocent, until proven otherwise. That's what the law says, not the dumb social media full of bloodthirsty mobs.
Why do these victims always pop up after a celebrity was involved in a successful hit? Where were they before, all these years and decades prior? And why so many of them later turn out to be lying delulu attention seekers trying to ruin a person's career and/or elevate themselves through sympathies on social media?
I'm feeling there's more hate between the protagonist and Mariko than between her and her husband, lol. The only one in this triangle I feel love from is the cucked misguided husband 🤣 . Way to fck up this subplot. They really went out of their way to make the audience not care anymore. Especially with that historically inaccurate suicidal theme going on.
Also, Toranaga once again showed what a master manipulator he is. Threw his most loyal vassal under the bus to make all the treacherous rats to scatter.
Goblin and CLOY were also overrated af. Personally, I don't get the hype over any of these three dramas.
You gotta watch them to be in the know though. If you can muster all the cheese and soap, that is. Personally, I think Goblin was a total snoozefest, overhyped for a couple of memes. CLOY's second half was full of draggy, unrealistic soap. QoT is a bit better than the other two, but still nowhere near the overrated scores.
I didn't read the book, but she's based on a real historical noble woman:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yodo-donoThere's…
But all he did prior to that, in the drama, was basically rebellion and civil war. He went against the official heir and his council to establish his own rule. And by the end he just killed the last competitor. Talking about peace, lol, yea sure. He could have ended it then and there by submitting to the other side. And his shogunate being peaceful after that wasn't his doing alone, the road to unification of Japan was already paved for him by his predecessors. There's a saying in Japan: "Nobunaga piled the rice, Hideyoshi kneaded the dough and Tokugawa ate the cake".
all though it may be a good show and based on Japanese history, this is not a Japanese drama… idk why things…
Its cast is mostly Japanese and lots of Japanese in staff. And it is a story about Japan. Does it matter where it was filmed and where money came from? And are you so sure Asian dramas nowadays are all-Asian? With global streaming services like Netflix and Disney+ ordering Asian dramas for global market? Biased people like you are the problem why shows like these can't get objective scores on MDL.
I didn't read the book, but she's based on a real historical noble woman:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yodo-donoThere's…
Also, it won't be shown in the drama, because the book ends on an earlier date, but more than 10 years later Tokugawa (Toranaga here), already a shogun, besieged Osaka castle to eliminate her son so that he wouldn't threaten his dynasty's rule. She and her son were forced to commit seppuku and Osaka castle was burned to the ground.
So it's funny to hear Toranaga bullshiting everyone in the drama how he doesn't want to be a shogun and wants peace. Sure, man, but irl you really wanted to become one, just like everybody else at that time.
There's a popular opinion that she was a wicked trickster of a woman, but then again, history was written by the victors.
It's also interesting how sumurai clan members were all related to each other through marriages, but it never stopped anybody from betraying even close relatives.
Blackthorne has not so much to do - he is not familiar with anything around him. He CANNOT do much. His mind is…
His deeds and thoughts which you described were shown here in 5-10 minutes tops. Heck, they don't even show how he's being taught Japanese by Mariko. Let's not pretend they didn't shove the protagonist here to the backline for the sake of other characters. And the merit of this drama should be gauged by what's in the drama alone, not what was in the book, most of the people here didn't read it and probably never will.
Blackthorne has not so much to do - he is not familiar with anything around him. He CANNOT do much. His mind is…
Toranaga doesn't trust anybody, I get it. His retainers want to backstab him/use him/or die with him, that much is clear as well. Gin-sama wants to build Yoshiwara, I get it too. You don't have to explain the whole plot to me. And it doesn't excuse the protagonist's misuse here. Sure, we can hope for exposition of Toranaga's intent or inner thoughts in the nebulous future, but it's been too many episodes already and that's the whole point of this drama - his intentions are hidden from everybody intentionally, not just from the clueless protagonist, because he's a trickster.
My only hope that they'll kick off some action soon in Osaka for the protagonist to finally be more involved, for I don't care much about him slacking around the village with nothing to do. But that's a slim chance because they'll most likely put Mariko at the front in Osaka, since her tragic fate there is already written. And btw, their romance here is much worse than in the old TV series, not feeling it all. Maybe because they've cut most of their private moments together and she's just mostly there to translate for him.
Also, I don't know whether it was in the book, but these suicidal inclinations of family members who survived their family head's seppuku historically are all wrong. The whole point of seppuku was to save family's honor and lives. Usually only the one who was at fault committed seppuku and by doing that his family was spared repercussions. Nobody additionally killed their babies and other family members, for they were innocent. And it was not required of other family members to follow suit and commit seppuku, if everybody was forced to do that there'd be no samurai clans left soon enough. I've already read a number of historians commenting on this bs. So Toranaga's retainer was a double idiot by killing his child and Mariko being suicidal over her father's betrayal and death is also something extraordinary. Also, contradictory to her catholic faith. The historical noble woman her character's based on actually refused to commit suicide when she was about to get captured by the enemy, her husband's retainer killed her instead on the prior orders from the husband in case something like that happened.
Cuz let's be real here, unless teaching themselves, most of the people don't remember most of the stuff being taught at school after 10+ years.
This drama's characters are cute and all, but can't help but think about how it's just some sad fantasies of a delulu fan dreaming of inserting herself into her favorite k-pop idol's life.
Where were they before, all these years and decades prior?
And why so many of them later turn out to be lying delulu attention seekers trying to ruin a person's career and/or elevate themselves through sympathies on social media?
Also, Toranaga once again showed what a master manipulator he is. Threw his most loyal vassal under the bus to make all the treacherous rats to scatter.
Personally, I think Goblin was a total snoozefest, overhyped for a couple of memes.
CLOY's second half was full of draggy, unrealistic soap.
QoT is a bit better than the other two, but still nowhere near the overrated scores.
Personally, I don't get the hype over any of these three dramas.
And his shogunate being peaceful after that wasn't his doing alone, the road to unification of Japan was already paved for him by his predecessors. There's a saying in Japan: "Nobunaga piled the rice, Hideyoshi kneaded the dough and Tokugawa ate the cake".
Biased people like you are the problem why shows like these can't get objective scores on MDL.
So it's funny to hear Toranaga bullshiting everyone in the drama how he doesn't want to be a shogun and wants peace. Sure, man, but irl you really wanted to become one, just like everybody else at that time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yodo-dono
There's a popular opinion that she was a wicked trickster of a woman, but then again, history was written by the victors.
It's also interesting how sumurai clan members were all related to each other through marriages, but it never stopped anybody from betraying even close relatives.
And the merit of this drama should be gauged by what's in the drama alone, not what was in the book, most of the people here didn't read it and probably never will.
Gin-sama wants to build Yoshiwara, I get it too.
You don't have to explain the whole plot to me. And it doesn't excuse the protagonist's misuse here. Sure, we can hope for exposition of Toranaga's intent or inner thoughts in the nebulous future, but it's been too many episodes already and that's the whole point of this drama - his intentions are hidden from everybody intentionally, not just from the clueless protagonist, because he's a trickster.
My only hope that they'll kick off some action soon in Osaka for the protagonist to finally be more involved, for I don't care much about him slacking around the village with nothing to do. But that's a slim chance because they'll most likely put Mariko at the front in Osaka, since her tragic fate there is already written.
And btw, their romance here is much worse than in the old TV series, not feeling it all. Maybe because they've cut most of their private moments together and she's just mostly there to translate for him.
Also, I don't know whether it was in the book, but these suicidal inclinations of family members who survived their family head's seppuku historically are all wrong. The whole point of seppuku was to save family's honor and lives. Usually only the one who was at fault committed seppuku and by doing that his family was spared repercussions. Nobody additionally killed their babies and other family members, for they were innocent. And it was not required of other family members to follow suit and commit seppuku, if everybody was forced to do that there'd be no samurai clans left soon enough. I've already read a number of historians commenting on this bs.
So Toranaga's retainer was a double idiot by killing his child and Mariko being suicidal over her father's betrayal and death is also something extraordinary. Also, contradictory to her catholic faith. The historical noble woman her character's based on actually refused to commit suicide when she was about to get captured by the enemy, her husband's retainer killed her instead on the prior orders from the husband in case something like that happened.