FL is seriously owning her role, but how long are they gonna beat her up into a pulp with that break up? It's just depressing to watch. Judging by the preview there's still no end to it and so far I'm not seeing how they gonna naturally segue into the leads relationship. Though I usually hate this trope, I think a time skip is needed here. Otherwise it may look forced or worse, become a tropey confused hook up out of pity. FL is suffering from a serious emotional breakdown and ML doesn't seem to have given up on his ex yet (he couldn't throw out the ring), they seem to be far from ready to start anything new.
The message is forgiveness indeed. ML got great character development and became a better person, he’s able…
You know there were some commenters here that didn't care much for ML's character development and said that he was human trash through and through and deserved everything that happened to him. That kinda sheds a different light on his enemies and why they put all the blame on him until the last. Makes this whole argument a grey area.
Personally though, I disagree with that stance. ML sure had a nasty temper and bullied his secretaries for nothing (for which FL made him pay for), but mostly he was a scapegoat for other people's problems. I totally agree with you that most of the people that ganged up on ML weren't in the right. This drama's doing well at showcasing that people generally are flawed, selfish, egotistic and like to put the blame on someone else, instead of themselves, because it's easier. And there was a lot of miscommunication going on because of that: -ML's best friend, instead of talking to him openly, backstabbed him for alledged suicide of his sister, though deep down inside he knew he himself was to blame for abandoning her. -ML's delulu ex selfishly tried to force him to get together again, trying to play like her brutally dumping him years ago was nothing special. And even blamed FL for her plans not working. They had their own reasons to get mad at each other and couldn't normally talk it out until the very last because of their hurt feelings. -The suicidal stalker girl simply decided to put all the blame on ML who didn't help her (not sure what he even could have done, help her file a police report?), instead of the real culprit who defamed her, because it was easier. -Ex-secretary club were kinda justified to get revenge on him, but their methods, especially the makshift bomb, went overboard. But still, ML apologizing to them and taking them back to work for him was the right thing to do.
So yeah, most of them didn't deserve an apology, but people and relationships are complicated and the truly irredeemable main villain aside, they weren't bad people. Even ML's professional rival turned out to be a decent guy in the end. I say props to ML for becoming a better man and making peace with everybody. Sometimes all it takes is an apology. And props to FL who made it possible, I guess she was the nicest person of them all, though she too at first was in the same hate boat with the rest of his enemies. So overall, I think this drama has complicated, not your run-of-the mill kdrama antagonists, a beautifully done overarching plot and a very satisfying ending. So if you're on the fence how to rate it then go for the higher score, compared to other rom-com dramas I think this drama is one of the best, flaws notwithstanding.
Okay so I'm on ep 15 and as much as I've truly enjoyed this drama so far I now have one HUGE, GLARING issue with…
The message is forgiveness indeed. ML got great character development and became a better person, he’s able to apologize and forgive now. And aside from the main villain all the other characters that did him wrong realized their mistakes as well after talking it out and resolving their issues. Better that than living in perpetual revenge cycle and hating on each other.
This drama once again reminded me why I don't care much for social media. Regular dwellers of these cesspits are brainless, insensitive, cruel, irresponsible bunch with online speech incontinence, enabled by their incognito status. If you wanna get a dose of brutal negativity up to your eyeballs and a feeling of being a worthless stain on the face of humainty go surf there even for a couple of minutes. I think all public figures for the sake of their mental health should stop managing their social media accounts themselves and delegate it to their staff, if they haven't already. Can't get anything done by taking non-stop hog-wash to heart.
Anyway, FL's unraveling was rather uncomfortable to watch, because it felt very real. I hope she picks herself up and kicks that garbage of an ex out of her life soon. So that we can finally be able to see what we've gathered here for - the leads romantic relationship, so far it's not even in the plans for them to work together professionally, not to mention anything else.
YIN is playing a different type of public figure character harassed by social media here, she's doing it very well, but personally I liked her strong willed character in Touch Your Heart more, she didn't let it get to her there.
This saeguk so far is more entertaining than others that came out this year, maybe because it has more action and has somewhat contemporary themes with this whole "attorney at law" schtick. FL actress is a bit stiff, but maybe because of the role she's playing, never seen her in other works to compare. ML and his buddy stole the show though, their chaotic duo is very entertaining to watch. I also like FL's maid, she's so prim and proper on the surface, but ML's buddy definitely has a certain effect on her 🤣.
What's the point of showing us ML's workplace? Looks like his friend is the only guy working there - the staff looks unmotivated and lazy, ML doesn't do anything there but be absent, or sit around drinking hot beverages and complaining. For a publishing house it must be one of those very tiny and barely profitable ones. And I gotta say, ML's friend is the only guy I like in this whole drama. The rest of the guys (ML, FL friend's husband, FL's bf) are apathetic, lazy, cowardly, two-timing jerks. And 4 episodes in there are barely any scenes with the leads - they're wallowing in their own problems.
Am I the only one who believes there is more to what was happening in the car than just cheating? He wanted to…
What else was going on there? The girl forced him to kiss her? Give me a break. It was clear it wasn't the first time either, FL even admitted it that she knowingly closed her eyes on red flags. He didn't deny cheating, but he didn't own up to it either. He simply put all the blame on FL instead of confessing to her when he could and amicably break up. He's just a sleazy coward, there's nothing else. I bet he would have strung her along indefinitely, because it cozied his ego to have two girls.
RIP to the these people who expected Bora to handle her breakup well, just because she is a famous dating coach…
Dating coach is just another job to sell people on stuff. Many people can't, but you gotta separate the real person hiding behind the public persona. So I wouldn't laugh at FL's bad luck, but I'm sure many will in the drama. Since it involves her job, I guess when it goes public her professional reputation will be ruined.
FL's cheating bf deserves a high kick into the stratosphere. F*cking hate that guy. What a cowardly, lying piece of shit! But overall I liked this break-up episode, FL acted it well. Looked painfully real. It looks like a serious drama so far, not much comedy here.
Still no subs, I was always frustrated with the Oasis drama by waiting for the subs, but they at least released…
Does TVING has to have English subs though? It's not an international streaming service. And if it's not airing on official international services then wait for volunteer unofficial subs and calm down.
why the drop in ratings ?? let me guess , they focused more on romance & fluffy moments instead of actual cases…
Actually, no. It's still mostly about cases and revenge. My guess there's nothing fresh here and that it's a saeguk isn't helping either. Or maybe what the majority wants is romance & fluffy moments, but there's barely any, hence the low ratings.
I disagree about the verdict of the last case, but I guess in Joseon times prisons and labor camps were non-existant. For murder it's either off with your head or off you go...
Though I usually hate this trope, I think a time skip is needed here. Otherwise it may look forced or worse, become a tropey confused hook up out of pity.
FL is suffering from a serious emotional breakdown and ML doesn't seem to have given up on his ex yet (he couldn't throw out the ring), they seem to be far from ready to start anything new.
Personally though, I disagree with that stance. ML sure had a nasty temper and bullied his secretaries for nothing (for which FL made him pay for), but mostly he was a scapegoat for other people's problems.
I totally agree with you that most of the people that ganged up on ML weren't in the right.
This drama's doing well at showcasing that people generally are flawed, selfish, egotistic and like to put the blame on someone else, instead of themselves, because it's easier.
And there was a lot of miscommunication going on because of that:
-ML's best friend, instead of talking to him openly, backstabbed him for alledged suicide of his sister, though deep down inside he knew he himself was to blame for abandoning her.
-ML's delulu ex selfishly tried to force him to get together again, trying to play like her brutally dumping him years ago was nothing special. And even blamed FL for her plans not working. They had their own reasons to get mad at each other and couldn't normally talk it out until the very last because of their hurt feelings.
-The suicidal stalker girl simply decided to put all the blame on ML who didn't help her (not sure what he even could have done, help her file a police report?), instead of the real culprit who defamed her, because it was easier.
-Ex-secretary club were kinda justified to get revenge on him, but their methods, especially the makshift bomb, went overboard. But still, ML apologizing to them and taking them back to work for him was the right thing to do.
So yeah, most of them didn't deserve an apology, but people and relationships are complicated and the truly irredeemable main villain aside, they weren't bad people. Even ML's professional rival turned out to be a decent guy in the end. I say props to ML for becoming a better man and making peace with everybody. Sometimes all it takes is an apology. And props to FL who made it possible, I guess she was the nicest person of them all, though she too at first was in the same hate boat with the rest of his enemies.
So overall, I think this drama has complicated, not your run-of-the mill kdrama antagonists, a beautifully done overarching plot and a very satisfying ending. So if you're on the fence how to rate it then go for the higher score, compared to other rom-com dramas I think this drama is one of the best, flaws notwithstanding.
I think all public figures for the sake of their mental health should stop managing their social media accounts themselves and delegate it to their staff, if they haven't already. Can't get anything done by taking non-stop hog-wash to heart.
Anyway, FL's unraveling was rather uncomfortable to watch, because it felt very real. I hope she picks herself up and kicks that garbage of an ex out of her life soon. So that we can finally be able to see what we've gathered here for - the leads romantic relationship, so far it's not even in the plans for them to work together professionally, not to mention anything else.
YIN is playing a different type of public figure character harassed by social media here, she's doing it very well, but personally I liked her strong willed character in Touch Your Heart more, she didn't let it get to her there.
FL actress is a bit stiff, but maybe because of the role she's playing, never seen her in other works to compare.
ML and his buddy stole the show though, their chaotic duo is very entertaining to watch.
I also like FL's maid, she's so prim and proper on the surface, but ML's buddy definitely has a certain effect on her 🤣.
And 4 episodes in there are barely any scenes with the leads - they're wallowing in their own problems.
He didn't deny cheating, but he didn't own up to it either. He simply put all the blame on FL instead of confessing to her when he could and amicably break up. He's just a sleazy coward, there's nothing else. I bet he would have strung her along indefinitely, because it cozied his ego to have two girls.
But overall I liked this break-up episode, FL acted it well. Looked painfully real. It looks like a serious drama so far, not much comedy here.
And if it's not airing on official international services then wait for volunteer unofficial subs and calm down.