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Ok sorry for my dumb comment. I had answer for this but if you think everything other than your smart comment as dumb there is no point ! Even I have No need to have further dumb discussion

Well FLs have to be teens bcs marriage used to happen very early in historical times so they cant show FLs in late 20s or 30s and being lovey dovey without marriage like modern times . Already some of the things FLs do seems to be far fetched atleast from an Indian perspective. I am not saying it’s right or anything but that’s the way it was for women in older times . Freedom was so limited and sense of propriety was so much on women so i find it surprising that FL could do freely be romantic like that !!

If they are morally grey then annoying , if they are completely goody two shoes then boring . I find this tags for both ML and FL but ya overall I found MLs are easily liked and FL not really !

Well that way ML also do the same . In fact most shows specially historical , ML forgetting every responsibility they started with sacrificing for romance is the most overused thing . But I don’t see that hate for ML. So doing something for someone you care is not cliche . That’s basic human reaction . Even XW is doing everything for FL . Isn’t he also risking everything for romance ? So why hate FL just because she is not doing that for ML !

I don’t get this hate towards FLs in almost every shows i watch. I see the same in Viki comments . Anything they do it becomes annoying somehow. No body wants normal people who can make mistakes or have their own story to tell or arc to develop ! I agree there are many shows where FLs are portrayed in a cliched sense but recently I have seen so many shows where they are sensible but still they somehow become annoying for every action they do (and useless if they don’t use the sword in historical shows. Bai Lu’s character in One and only i see so many commenting the same but I found her fit for the time she lived in ) PS : even I am not happy that after half of the drama aired still no sight of ML & FL but that doesn’t mean we strip FL of her agency !

yes ZZ is important to FL. we cannot deny that. whether he is compatible or not whether it is attraction , admiration or love . i think many are impatient bcs its half way through the drama and we dont see ML & FL relationship development. Even i would want a good development shown between ML & FL and not rushed there.

I have always liked him since I watched Flourish in time . A good youth drama . Nothing great but still a good watchable drama but ZLH got my attention since then

I don’t mind her arc with ZZ if they show a good relationship development with XW . That connection and emotional bonding development is important for us to root for them but yes looking at no. of episodes we might be in a disappointment

I get all that and i dont think everyone has the capacity to do most heinous act specially to the ones they claim they love. This i am talking about YL.Also i am not saying she should run away and hide in the cave. All i am saying is i am surprised she was so comfortable with that horrible memory of him. And i havent seen minority report. so i cannot answer about that. As to TTEOTM i had other issues nothing to do with character. Infact first 10 episodes i was like heck ya this is new where characters are not some big God saving the world only to start spewing blood later. So no need to put down somebody else's opinion and thoughts by "lolling". we can discuss about what we perceive without outright dismissing someone i believe. anyways we agree to disagree. at the end we are still enjoying the show. so lets do that :)

After all this discussions i decided i should just go with what is shown in drama bcs if we go with novel we will end up with inconsistencies with every character. so we will conflicted with what we see in drama and what we know of novel! As per novel readers except ZZ everyone have major issues! But in drama all have grey past but not to the level of disgusting. they did not explicitly show YL doing anything other than scaring her and kissing her forcefully .

i agree to some things like she is trying to rectify what happened so that he could not end up that way but i still couldnt fathom how she could be so indulgent and free to him with that horrible memory. 1 episode or so they showed her subtle reaction but later she was enjoying freely with no inhibition(right from the lantern festival) . anyway i accepted it and moved on as something i can live with since he is not ML and they did not show YL doing anything like that explicitly in the drama. Regarding TTEOTM i had major issues with that drama so i dropped after i think 12 episodes. And i could never feel his pain after what he started doing so in a way i did hate him.

i posted same question and got some insights from novel readers. below https://kisskh.at/719227-ning-an-ru-meng#comment-15167075

well then this may not be for you . For me this is a beautiful drama which has slow burn with a love story that has the longing and pure love. But it could be boring and nothing much exciting happening if you are not into this kind of drama

True that. Its fine to show its a novel or something in shows like SOKP bcs it does not take away anything but for Forever and ever that was one of the main theme so i could not feel that connection they had with One and Only.

was there a concept of dating back then ? or you mean like they will become sort of engaged?

Well as a fan of one and only I hated his character and FL couldnt care less about him as well . That shows he is a good actor . Specially scenes where he had to act sick his acting was top notch . but when it comes to chemistry it cannot beat the ML and FL there so I would say fortunately she didn’t end up with him in that 😀

ah okay . thanks for the details. Appreciate it. Even though i keep thinking i should just go by drama novel discussions still comes to my mind . This helps. Looking forward to how they develop their relationship in the drama.

Hope so. since its not aired we cannot judge i suppose . i am expecting they will show a good emotional bonding in addition to their skinship only then i can feel for them and let go of that forced kisses and more importantly the ending ! i havent watched recent episodes but by the comments i see they have already started connecting.

yep thats there but i dont know why i could not get that closure with forever and ever. may be bcs they could not show that Shiyi remembered clearly and ZSH had no inkling of their tragic past and also only main characters were part of it. I expected atleast the ZSH military family will be there!

Gosh! already i could not get my thoughts sorted out on how she is comfortable with being close to YL when she remembers clearly what he did to her and now this! i think i will just go by drama and forget about novel bcs that would not be so dark and even YL they just "showed" YL force kissing and keep it at that .