It’s interesting to me when I hear people blaming XZ for FCY’s choice because they’re giving XZ the credit for her decision and basically robbing her of her own free will and personal responsibility. Following that logic, then, XZ should be getting the credit for killing the general. If he HAD been honest, she wouldn’t have gone to battle, and therefore the general may not have been defeated. Hell, they might have even lost the battle. So if XZ is solely the one to blame for her decision to join the battle on his behalf then he is, by that logic, also the one responsible for the victory. It means that they won the battle BECAUSE he lied to her. It logic doesn’t make sense and how disempowering is that for our girl? FCY made her own choice to go to battle on his behalf. SHE gets credit for her decision, not him and his dishonesty. Yes, her anger and hurt makes total sense. I would be PISSED as well. But to completely blame someone else for a choice that I made? I don’t buy it.
100%, I agree. He tells her that the injuries are not so bad and that she doesn't need to worry, but she fusses…
I was actually thinking about this as well. She has had many first-hand experiences of what this man is capable of. She has seen him fight, see him almost take down like 15 men in the woods while very injured. She was with him on the city walls when he was masked and kicking ass. So I mean, while it is very sweet that she wants to take care of him, she also needs to recognize that his man is capable.
This is my only gripe also with this show so far he is supposed to be an amazing warrior but the drama has barley…
I think he has a brief period when they split for the first time when he was recovered. I believe that he got re-injured rescuing Changning and that’s what he is recovering from now. Still, overall you’re not wrong.
Amazing episode the fight scenes were really good and the lie will finally be gone tomorrow so we can move on…
Yeah. :/ 💯Agreed. I know we are going to be getting into the capital arc where the politics come into play, so at LEAST let him have his time to shine with the cunning and chess playing. Generals are generals because they can plot and strategize, not necessarily because they are the best fighters. So if the director insists on not letting XZ have stellar fight scenes then at least showcase his intelligence and cunning.
XZ infact is a clairvoyant and knew in advance that FCY was going to do that. He just put on an act by sleeping…
😂The logic is so unfair. It’s OK to say that if FCY knew that he was the Marquis she wouldn’t have made that decision, but it’s not OK to say that if XZ knew she would do this then he would have handled the secret differently? 🤦🏼♀️ People are determined to make XZ the bad guy, but the double standard maaan…
It's just the mess of Xie Zheng's own making. It's as simple as that. He knew very well that how Fan Changyu is…
I expect FCY to do exactly what she did! I am saying that BOTH parties played a role in her going into battle. It is NOT solely XZ’s fault! He did not FORCE FCY to make the choice that she did 🙄 SHE CHOSE THAT HERSELF. She could have chosen to let him go to battle. Hell, she could have even chosen to sneak into the battle herself with him and try to protect him on the battlefield. What did I expect? Literally for her to do exactly what she did 😂Why does me saying that FCY made her own autonomous choice and is responsible for it translate to me suggesting that XZ is without any fault? 😂 I never said that! BOTH PARTIES contributed to it.
The other fault in your logic is that you are blaming XZ for something that he could not have predicted would happen. Hindsight is always 20/20, and it is NOT fair to blame someone for something they did before they knew what the consequences would be. That’s called the Hindsight Bias. XZ could not have predicted that his wife would drug him, especially after she told him she would follow the military rules. It’s not fair to push all of the fault on him - if he had known that FCY was going to drug him and go to war then he probably would have handled his secret differently. You’re not being fair.
Was his secret a contributing factor to what she chose to do, absolutely. Does her decision make sense given that she didn’t know? YES! Did she also do something rash that had the potential for a bad outcome? ALSO YES. Her decisions are HER OWN. His decisions are his own. The world is not black and white and there is so much nuance in situations like this.
It also makes me want to ask, then - is XZ also responsible for all of FCY’s choices in the first 16 episodes, then? She was still in the dark about when she chose to marry him. She was in the dark during the trial about her uncle’s death. Is XZ responsible for all of those choices, too? Your logic would say yes. Talk about disempowering Changyu and reducing her autonomy to being XZ’s fault.
It's just the mess of Xie Zheng's own making. It's as simple as that. He knew very well that how Fan Changyu is…
The fault falls on BOTH, not just XZ. Yes he should have told her, yes if he had she probably wouldn’t have taken his place. And also at the same time, FCY broke the rules and chose to drug her spouse. XZ did not force her hand to put the candy in his mouth, that choice was 💯 hers. I’m so tired of people pushing the entirety of the blame on XZ instead of seeing that BOTH characters are responsible for their own fecking behaviors. That’s personal responsibility.
because in the novel he didn't miss the entire battle. so I'm actually curious where was he. did he go deal with…
They didn’t show XZ at all. I mean it’s pretty clear at this point that the directors don’t care about giving XZ his moments shine. He shows up right after FCY kills the general.
Time: 20:03Xie Zheng: Chang Yu, I know you feel wronged, but in keeping this from you, I never meant to toy with…
Honestly people are giving XZ too much hate for it and not enough understanding. To me, this reasoning makes perfect sense. Yes I get why she would be hurt, but I am also hoping she gets it. He’s a general with thousands of lives in his hands and has to make incredibly difficult decisions every single day.
The other fault in your logic is that you are blaming XZ for something that he could not have predicted would happen. Hindsight is always 20/20, and it is NOT fair to blame someone for something they did before they knew what the consequences would be. That’s called the Hindsight Bias. XZ could not have predicted that his wife would drug him, especially after she told him she would follow the military rules. It’s not fair to push all of the fault on him - if he had known that FCY was going to drug him and go to war then he probably would have handled his secret differently. You’re not being fair.
Was his secret a contributing factor to what she chose to do, absolutely. Does her decision make sense given that she didn’t know? YES! Did she also do something rash that had the potential for a bad outcome? ALSO YES. Her decisions are HER OWN. His decisions are his own. The world is not black and white and there is so much nuance in situations like this.
It also makes me want to ask, then - is XZ also responsible for all of FCY’s choices in the first 16 episodes, then? She was still in the dark about when she chose to marry him. She was in the dark during the trial about her uncle’s death. Is XZ responsible for all of those choices, too? Your logic would say yes. Talk about disempowering Changyu and reducing her autonomy to being XZ’s fault.