talking w/ a friend and hsm really does look lost and sad. but he left after an insanely traumatic event and deaths of two people; one who influenced and changed his life forever. he also had that breakdown and his emotions came more to the forefront. then was moved away from any familiarity, hda the PM case (which i hope we will get more insight on), and then comes back to a place after being jerked around. he is a knife that's used to pierce a skin and be put away. it's only natural. on the other hand, when he's with people he's familiar with he can be more emotive—asking about her drawings is a huge step.
rewatching the differences between s1 and s2 become more and more clear in a good way. there's a maturity in every sense of the word. the physically aging, passage of time, societal issues in SK and globally. the world isn't stagnant nor should it be. they weren't frozen in time, they were living whole lives without us. emotionally i think the kang won chul convo is hard-hitting and what happens after, what kwc does for him is a turning point (just rewatched)
I actually enjoyed reading your comment and the paper you linked; this is a place where k-drama fans can discuss…
"I’ve been reading about the current President in South Korea. When he was elected, he promised to reform the prosecution and to make a fairer and more equitable Korea so that everyone had a chance. He appointed Cho kuk, a progressive with a history of defending human rights, to the Ministry of Justice. The prosecution brought the new Minister down in something like 54 days, accusing him of corruption and his wife and family of academic fraud. They destroyed his reputation. Books are being written about it. It does seem as if the Minister was guilty of using his power and influence for his own benefit, but nowhere near as much as the right wing elements in Korea maintained, but I think the jury is still out. It depends who you read. The good intentions of the President were totally sabotaged by the prosecution and those in power who had something to lose. People demonstrated for weeks in the streets both for and against him. The new Minister of Justice is busy getting rid of those who defended the prosecution, but the key person is said to be in the running to be the next President of Korea. This is what FOS2 is based on. It’s a story that must be told and it’s a bit depressing. Your question, “is there a side besides the one of people?” is the one that should be asked again and again, even if it feels you are shouting into the abyss." https://www.dramabeans.com/members/boughtabride/activity/1124123/#acomment-1124142
I actually enjoyed reading your comment and the paper you linked; this is a place where k-drama fans can discuss…
thank you so much! helps me feel less silly, truly. i will try my best to be more concise. and i am glad u liked the paper! another thing i learned from the person who linked the paper, gonna c/p what she said:
wow that's a really difficult time for people! sorry it's so late over there. that's def like...well companies know the times thatll really mess w/ ratings. sucks cos yall like it a lot
;---; i thought so after the end of ep 6, when i wasnt feelin it as much as others but i was surprised she said what she did. ty for your answer, i think when i have more mental space i'll try again! hope it's been an interesting ride
rewatching e5-6 cos i have to cos im dumb and i really desperately want them back together again lmao so please next week onward we see them w/ each other all the time i love everything else and think it's necessary but i am DYING
i stopped for a while though i finished ep 6. i didnt plan to come back and if i did not until it is over but how have the char. developments been since ep6? i was one of those who cares the most about cha ji won and nothing abt their marriage so i'm curious about her. but it's going to be delayed bc of covid? i would rather them be safe anyway but i hope the script is finalized so they can go back and wrap it up in consistence. really sucks that this is happening
The editing is perhaps the biggest hinderance to this fully feeling like the original. The biggest litmus test…
i would love to discuss this more but tbh i think the editing is one of the weakest things in the show. this season it got much better in the moments it needed it the most. there's some things i honestly would never keep. the bathroom scenes at the station in Segok shocked me bc they were so well done. i usually skip the knife parts in s1. there's also this particular sound they use when the passage of time is denoted, and it's very good, but i would really hate those scenes as i thought they would go on too long. i think this just shows a huge part of preference. as an editor, my preference for these decisions are much preferred. i feel like it's just way more refined but idk, im going to go back to the scenes u mentioned. i think it seems more refined to me bc the show is a lot broader than theway others may view it and that's why i prefer it. idk. anyway not many ppl comment on editing here and it's the most important thing
edit: if it's 2 long 4 u 2 read get over it and dont bother me lol i meant to put this behind spoiler tag cos…
there's some things i've noticed about discussions on here which can make it very un-user friendly (but i am glad that it isn't censored, sincerely, bc that would make it worse) - people cannot handle disagreements or discord and if it comes up you're overreacting for replying like a normal adult OR a fascist - long comment on discussion board = bad. i guess MDL locks the scrolling ability. and so long comment not working bc my brain? - if you do not agree on a well-loved show and say one thing off people freak out, but if a well loved show has a second season out and you want to talk about the merits (and downfalls!) of comparison when people bring it up then that is gatekeeping (source: google.com) - discussion = constant agreement, no differentiating feelings, no new ideas to introduce (did i mention long comment = bad or a script which. therefore to moderate commenting on how long a comment is bc it's too long with nothing to say about the comment adds to conversation! too long also = stupid automatically—so don't read it or skim) - discussion only good if you jump through the hoops of all of these (which one can't manage so at one point or another you are bound to piss someone off) - people who think they are nice and flexible are really not at all
maybe i should treat this like youtube comments now lmao but ty for the ppl that interact and talk and share good ideas ^__^
it's amazing and people aren't paying attn enough and/or dont remember or not focusing. i don't even want it to…
bc i have some learning problems and adhd it takes me a while to absorb which gives me anxiety as an artist. i have to rewatch a lot and sometimes get transcriptts bc the information doesn't go to my brain well all the time. so i end up seeing it a lot and having more info on hand (which people seem to really be rude about on here) i've seen s1 a lot bc i couldn't understand so much of it and i now rewatch s2 eps a lot and i take notes (lmao) it's so fresh in my mind that the connections seem obvious the third time around. i personally think a lot of why some of us like it is cos we enjoy the dialogue too ! the intricacy is really great so i'm glad you can say what we are thinking in a short manner lol. everyone has their own thing goin' on in fos2
i know you're excited but please put this in the spoiler tag. some people come here for a quick feedback on the…
what's up with your scrolling ability?
i express myself this way not on purpose but bc that's just the way i am. it's really disheartening to see responses like this because i earnestly discuss things and i don't want to be told people don't want to read all of it when they DON'T HAVE TO. what one can do is scroll by. but maybe, just maybe, people can try and understand that some of us may interact with others in ways that seem odd because of something that makes me different from you. a huge part of this is my adhd and learning disability. i wish even this reply can be short but it's very tough for me to engage and be concise which is why i type so much. jesus christ it's actually so rude. you could have asked. on top of that: there is no rule in which things can't be long. i quickly cross all the time.
you also have to understand most platforms dont have that option so that's why i forgot. i don't have to do that rn, there are no spoilers in my comment, and i hope people can see how shitty it feels to hear this. this actually bugs me. you're invalidating everything i'm saying because it's too visually displeasing. fucking scroll
I mean you can't blame people.. most dramas mirror the predecessors seasons but this one doesn't at all. That's…
i'm not a kid so don't patronize me thank you,
you don't know what gatekeeping is, clearly, and there is nothing terrifying about the supposed thing i'm doing. disagreement = / = being a fascist.
it's fine to have opinions in fact it is great. this discussion is based on them. but because we are disagreeing, which is fine, i choose to bring my opinion on your mistakes in your presentation. and YOU replied to ME so my response not being what you want when i bring it up is not my problem. you say something, i respond in kind. that's life. if they wanted the same thing twice then watch s1 twice then if you don't understand what im saying lmao
I mean you can't blame people.. most dramas mirror the predecessors seasons but this one doesn't at all. That's…
that's not what a gatekeeper is. gatekeeping is about controlling access and it's a social phenomenon. these are all semantics. you present these things as if they are facts but that's my point. the evidence is there.
i don't care what people do or how they interpret however if ur the "hugest fan of the show" it absolutely does not make any sense if you know nothing about the background. maybe it's bc i'm an "artist" but information retrieval is as huge part of understanding. i wouldnt say im the hugest fan at all as i know tiny bits and pieces. so i'm positive people know more than me. also it is very common for drama fans to know even the simplest things. so no i am not gatekeeping and also, even from your definition, that's not really true.
and yes it's different because it's a DIFFERENT SEASON OF THE SHOW!!! but it is still a mystery/thriller. this isn't a serial like law and order. you can say you don't like it, you don't like the direction, maybe one didnt' even like s1 but it doesn't negate the fact that it is still manifesting as promoted. my point is that you said people are shocked because it's different...ok but to be shocked at the direction? and i'm sorry but no way one didn't keep up a little if they loved it!
if you don't like it thats fine then say so but i think the disappointment factor being so attached to s1 (so this is a replica basically) sets yourself up for failure. the pivot was discussed, the press releases are there ("it is very different but still Stranger") the summary completely tells you that. however the tone and themes are the same; whether it succeeds or not will be the answer we need to the question however that is different then expectations one set up in their mind with no flexibility or care to inrepret something new. and yes that is up to the viewer
rewatching the differences between s1 and s2 become more and more clear in a good way. there's a maturity in every sense of the word. the physically aging, passage of time, societal issues in SK and globally. the world isn't stagnant nor should it be. they weren't frozen in time, they were living whole lives without us. emotionally i think the kang won chul convo is hard-hitting and what happens after, what kwc does for him is a turning point (just rewatched)
- people cannot handle disagreements or discord and if it comes up you're overreacting for replying like a normal adult OR a fascist
- long comment on discussion board = bad. i guess MDL locks the scrolling ability. and so long comment not working bc my brain?
- if you do not agree on a well-loved show and say one thing off people freak out, but if a well loved show has a second season out and you want to talk about the merits (and downfalls!) of comparison when people bring it up then that is gatekeeping (source: google.com)
- discussion = constant agreement, no differentiating feelings, no new ideas to introduce (did i mention long comment = bad or a script which. therefore to moderate commenting on how long a comment is bc it's too long with nothing to say about the comment adds to conversation! too long also = stupid automatically—so don't read it or skim)
- discussion only good if you jump through the hoops of all of these (which one can't manage so at one point or another you are bound to piss someone off)
- people who think they are nice and flexible are really not at all
maybe i should treat this like youtube comments now lmao but ty for the ppl that interact and talk and share good ideas ^__^
i express myself this way not on purpose but bc that's just the way i am. it's really disheartening to see responses like this because i earnestly discuss things and i don't want to be told people don't want to read all of it when they DON'T HAVE TO. what one can do is scroll by. but maybe, just maybe, people can try and understand that some of us may interact with others in ways that seem odd because of something that makes me different from you. a huge part of this is my adhd and learning disability. i wish even this reply can be short but it's very tough for me to engage and be concise which is why i type so much. jesus christ it's actually so rude. you could have asked. on top of that: there is no rule in which things can't be long. i quickly cross all the time.
you also have to understand most platforms dont have that option so that's why i forgot. i don't have to do that rn, there are no spoilers in my comment, and i hope people can see how shitty it feels to hear this. this actually bugs me. you're invalidating everything i'm saying because it's too visually displeasing. fucking scroll
you don't know what gatekeeping is, clearly, and there is nothing terrifying about the supposed thing i'm doing. disagreement = / = being a fascist.
it's fine to have opinions in fact it is great. this discussion is based on them. but because we are disagreeing, which is fine, i choose to bring my opinion on your mistakes in your presentation. and YOU replied to ME so my response not being what you want when i bring it up is not my problem. you say something, i respond in kind. that's life. if they wanted the same thing twice then watch s1 twice then if you don't understand what im saying lmao
i don't care what people do or how they interpret however if ur the "hugest fan of the show" it absolutely does not make any sense if you know nothing about the background. maybe it's bc i'm an "artist" but information retrieval is as huge part of understanding. i wouldnt say im the hugest fan at all as i know tiny bits and pieces. so i'm positive people know more than me. also it is very common for drama fans to know even the simplest things. so no i am not gatekeeping and also, even from your definition, that's not really true.
and yes it's different because it's a DIFFERENT SEASON OF THE SHOW!!! but it is still a mystery/thriller. this isn't a serial like law and order. you can say you don't like it, you don't like the direction, maybe one didnt' even like s1 but it doesn't negate the fact that it is still manifesting as promoted. my point is that you said people are shocked because it's different...ok but to be shocked at the direction? and i'm sorry but no way one didn't keep up a little if they loved it!
if you don't like it thats fine then say so but i think the disappointment factor being so attached to s1 (so this is a replica basically) sets yourself up for failure. the pivot was discussed, the press releases are there ("it is very different but still Stranger") the summary completely tells you that. however the tone and themes are the same; whether it succeeds or not will be the answer we need to the question however that is different then expectations one set up in their mind with no flexibility or care to inrepret something new. and yes that is up to the viewer