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idk if i like it more but i love it as intensely i think. def agree

Yes!!!!! Honedtly i will rewatch it soon. We hd no idea about this huge scope

god who cares

lmaoa this is what happens when they inject romance everywhere. hey maybe it's an oedipal tragedy

i don't particularly like krystal but this looks cool as fuck so, hey, change my own mind.

it's the pacific rim teas

I SWEAR THEY HAD SOMETHIN ;) i def think she will. i mean i think hyj already is but i would be starstruck too in a way (if i would ever be a cop which i wouldnt) also her boss from last time (i forgot his name lmao the one at yongsan) he disappointed her so much but the good part of her is her ability to just try and do better. i really respect that about her

theyre a troll and dont like women dont worry lmao. the arguments wont get better and they wont make any more sense. we've suffered at other places

IT'S THE BEST THING the revelations with this woman!

i was thinking: could we say that s2 is a season as we know it in the western term? i don't really know what people want but if i think about breaking bad the differences in seasons (well 1 from the rest) are stark but each having their own merit. it's a continuation and s1 was its own grounding point..ironically kinda reminds me of this british cop show that's so fucking weird (i forgot the name) it's a series but they approach the themes differently with one overarching power....wtf is this show called

the most frustrating part for me is not letting this season stand both as a part of the show but also as it's own piece of work where the creators have evolved. a mark of any artist...whether they execute it well or not isn't mutually exclusive to how good s1 was but it doesn't rely on it as one seems to think. also flaws are impossible to dodge, we all have diff opinions, but our negative opinions or gripes shouldn't be borne from how much better something already is. it's passed and done and we have this now. it's like hearing a new album from an artist you love, seeing a new film, etc and lord knows that means being open to change—this goes with series as well especially bc the korean format is different. and i love arguments (not in a mean way) but like exchanging information but i dont think people who are here to complain about it without engagement love that. so it makes us figuring out why they wouldnt like the show harder and more annoying.

anywayS first of all what about WTH and CB..... (eyes emoji) i was thinkig kidnapper was the boy but it's a big dude. i also think the prosecutor is def entertwined. remember in the early eps when he waved at her and she bows while they walk away but she looks back. also why did hsm look at her like that after she talks about war + peace and what is the significance~

oh and re the last part some of my fav people just couldn't connect w/ s1 and it made me sad cos i love it so much but i really get it. this show honestly isn't for everyone, i'm surprised there's not more dissent (well im not this website is brutal) but explaining the issues they had with it or why it was just extremely difficult to engage. i think one common thing is the emotional hole they may feel. also first 4 eps are ZZZZZ out of context lmao

men are, actually, harsher when it comes to things they don't like especially if it isn't focused on them. bc psychology said so. also marketing and psychology do have a lot to do with it. the condescending nature of ratings is actually male dominated, not bc we are more forgiving, it's bc men are loud and don't like shutting up.

it wouldn't matter anyway but you're positing that the rating is higher because we are women but it's actually lower in quality so women aren't discerning enough and that's where people find your comment insulting. and plenty of women have the fortitude and wherewithal to explain why they feel the way they do, we're not forgiving YOUR perceived mistakes.

i love it so much. i just do. and i cry a lot with each episode. as opposed to Life where i don't think the writer did a great job with evolution, here i think she does it deftly. there's not an episode that goes by where i don't feel the shells or remnants of what they have gone through and i think that's the strongest suit of the show.

i don't believe in a carceral state so fundamentally this is a show i am sincerely against from its ideas but it helps us explore our own conceptions and solidifies my own. also every week we see more and more how much the team makes female subjugation integral to the show. sadly, i don't think our favs can ever escape. i don't love the business storyline but i KNOW it's gonna be important so im gonna have to pay attn. and bc 7-8 were so high octane and we are left on a limb i think we're really hooked now so the pacing got that right for sure

i can't wait for this wknd...

i wish i could respond to all the good comments. but what i am in awe of in s2 is just how much s1 affects it. so i guess i get kind of sad that people don't like s2 as much because s1 is IMPERATIVE for s2 and maybe for me i'm like "i wish ppl would notice it more" but honestly it's heart wrenching

ratings on this website are largely irrelevant so u can put it @ a 1.0 but it's still a 10480484082084 IN MY <3

it does suck sometimes to see BUT STAY FOR THE THEORIES

i'm gonna separate them into diff categories but they're all crime/thriller/fucked up dramas but this one is one of a kind, as are these so nothing is going to mimic it even if it tried its hardest. which can be frustrating sometimes when you don't want to rewatch for the 10000th time.

(* are my favs or ones that once were but i think are pretty stellar even with flaws...)

crime not particularly political but police focused:
- signal* (for me a warning would be sexual violence against women, but it's a pretty good plot. used to be one of my favs and a major fav in general)
- life on mars
-*children of nobody* (deals w/ child abuse)
- nobody knows (deals w/ child abuse)

slower thrillers:
- save me + save me 2* (2 being my fav, but they are about cults and exploitation rather than whatever scale this is on. save me 2 is my favorite and more about community exploitation via a formation of a cult while save me is about like theist cult exploitation. i like save me 2 more because of the similar pacing and feel—melancholy and expectations subverted— i got to love in FoS but many found it boring)
- confession (about double jeopardy) - would recommend the good detective along with this (goes in the crime category but they have extremely similar themes however it is way more lax)
- sky castle* (it IS a thriller and it is social commentary but it isn't political in FoS nature)

this isnt the same vein but i would put it in the caliber of these shows that i just enjoy. theyre both my favorites. this is bonkers thrillers and/or kind of horrors that are insane:
- trap
- strangers from hell

i think mother falls into the category of good pacing and fucked up situations and extracurricular people said was stellar as well

the director of stranger s1 did "watcher" but i find that show almost incomprehensible though it is gorgeous. i might give it a rewatch but i kind of hated the atmosphere. i have a lot of issues with it but i know many people liked it. but, again, stylistically gorgeous and different which surprised me

tbh i think you should watch s1 because without it s2 wouldn't be as impactful. but if you dont want to rewatch ;-; there's a lot of emotion and impact from s1 which is why i appreciate it so much. at least watch last ep of s1!

let us know!!! hopefully you got to catch up. if you wait until this weekend tho it'll be a worthwhile wait tbh

how did u feel abt the ending of s1? my biggest complaint, something i will NEVER forget or forgive, is the way he solves the mystery at the end of s1 (and i rewatched s1 a couple days before the premier.) to me, that showed how they kind of backed themselves into a corner. lazy writing.

comparatively this is less angering but i didnt even think of it that way so thanks for pointing it out lol i think the point of this was to show influence of social media. idk what the point of the Discovery of s1 was tho. no amtter how many times i watch it, i will never like the way they figured it out -___-

it's gr8. if u know u know ;)

another: this is just the abstract https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1756061618301782?via%3Dihub i think i can get access to it so if i can i will update

also this season is based off of a case of a minister of justice being pushed out in 54 days by right wing prosecution after being appointed by pres. moon to reform prosecutory rule. fascinating stuff

ty for the link! will try and read. id on't trust either or believe in either but given that it is in the constitution from may 16 that prosecutors are supreme basically was an insane revelation. ironically it differs so much from the US even though the US are a huge influence. i never knew how different it could be from here (US) but my main issue with the politics of it all seems to boil down to all of them being pretty shitty, so it doesn't matter who is in control of what. but that type of power is...it's pretty nuts. thank you for the ranking thing. i am having a hard time understanding the police's roles as well if any1 can give insight (i do NOT understand the national police agency or the police school. i know it has to do with classism just like prosecution but im soo confused. also they mention the autonomous police and it's so so sos so confusing to meeee)