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last ep! you see the landlady before she gets killed by moon jo/jong woo and she says "i took this poor kid who killed his parents in"

totally! i mean it's clear he has ptsd. but that's the tricky part of it. imo jong woo isn't capable of doing what the cult did (for various reasons) and his episode would then coincide with trauma and that effectively creates a gap between him and the real murderers. he killed out of safety (which one could argue, but i think he did and idc that they died lol) while the others have this psychological problem that was fostered throughout the years. so i'm like as a viewer i understand that for him it was constant trauma and pressure and his mind cannot function anymore..which means you can get help. the others were beyond help. so at the end why the hell does nobody still help him?

good explanation! ty!

...but how does this alter ego work....anyways he went crazy our poor jong woo lmao

the diff between jong woo and them is that he literally went crazy. moon jo killed his parents and the rest of them were either socio or psychopaths so it's inherent to them and fostered through a cycle of trauma. his was "made" but he is different because of his ability to feel so strongly which is also why this switch is dubious too

the 19+ rating is apt. even tho it's blurred if they come out with the DVD...phew. but it was pretttyyyyyy gory

strange writing and shoddy police work lol

i get what ur saying but i'm wondering about the mechanics of that dissociation. i knew he was going to kill...he had to or he would be killed. but considering the discrepancies how far did he go and also what was the measure in which moon jo convinced him. because he's not been stable the whole time and has been gaslit and driven insane there's a lot of forgiveness we can give to the writing but it still doesn't mesh with jong woo the whole series to the end with having the bracelet put on. it's like it was a switch.

in the timeline: they kill chang ho first then he sees ji eun then he gets the bracelet put on from then til the end what happened? where is moon jo? was ji eun hallucinating cos she was also in sm pain? it just doesnt add up. and because of that i'm like there's all these questions we have about the reality.

also jong woo's core personality is directly against everyone at the gosiwon. he doesn't believe people are /this/ bad and pure rage, even though it's dangerous, does not a psychopath make. like at what point did he snap and then how did he do all that stuff in turn? i shouldn't dissect it this much because your answer is the most plausible but i feel like there's so much room to ponder philosophically

good catch!!! didnt think of that hahhahah

thanks for the reply! was it as open to interpretation as this was? (i think i answer my own question here....)

i guess my complaint would be about the 'similar' part of them is that jongwoo doesn't become jongwoo anymore, he becomes moon jo...through intense gaslighting and the show is so quick with it, there's almost no time to breathe. i know the teeth bracelet symbolizes something. so i'm sad that jong woo's essence is basically gone, stamped out, and that's it..

yes! and there's that riff on 'les fleurs' from the ending (US)

edgar wright--you're right! i didnt even think of that! there's also a humor in horror (that i think is necessary) and wright does that well too

all that matters is that u enjoyed it!

the ep is titled 'gaslighting' which is basically leading someone to believe something that is true, factual, but not affirming it. so "i saw you kill this person" but the person says "no that was you" and...i think that's pretty indicative of what happened at the end and the series.

there are many diff interpretations tbh cos idk if i think this one is, but i dont think anything is factual

did moon jo plant in his mind he did all these things? because he has this fight....and people are DYING but he's doing it or...? how did he get to influence jong woo to murder all those people (which tbh makes me imagine that a) the bracelet makes u insane and b) he /was/ gaslighted into it...which he was but was it even him???) i think that.......we wont know? i guess. but im glad all those bitches got got. i don't think jong woo is a character that went crazy tbh i think everyone around him was and he was trying to survive so the overarching point between him and moon jo seems bizarre

these dramatic cinema series thouggh really push the mental limits. i loved trap for this reason tbh so i don't mind what happened. i just think it's unclear and so far that's 2 for 2 of insanity but no clarity (which is FINE bc it really does make for cinematic tv)

so i think that the ending can be interpreted many ways. overall i liked the drama and didn't mind the plot points but now i'm kind of at sea with what it all means...

btw--show obviously really admires 'us' and 'midsommar' and if u have seen those movies...i think it might be a bit clearer

gets better and better. i think it's a fun, well-paced horror. it would probably be more palatable as a movie since it has that pacing in its episodic form (the highs, the dip in storytelling, the lows, the highs again) but i always view horror through a different lens. and most of all horror should be fun in a sick way

i dont think jongwoo will be a killer. partly because it's in his nature and we see the contrast between him and moon jo. but he is being driven CRAZY and by now he's just terrified. like he's over jae-ho, now he's like all of us are about to get GOT.


can't wait for the finale. he sees his army bro which is the opening of first ep scene. rly rly rly dont want him to take over in teh cult (idt he will) because it seems as if there's no point in the cult really just trauma manifesting through evil..

i agree with what the commenter above said. i think that what you said is right. because nothing has happened to him yet (physically) it's more than that. it's a mind game plus the horror of like...body parts and being killed etc. theyr'e really really really trying to make him crazy (i think i heard that charles manson's cult--which is terrible btw--would like go into ppls houses and rearrange their furniture...can u imagine. the slightest things are off but you KNOW theyre off and you havent touched it)

i think (hopefully) we will all be satisfied! we'd want it to end and be good with shorter eps than annoyed with longer eps. it'll be the perfect end to this crazy horror show we're enjoying haha

thank god it made sense!!!! :) ty

It is when the whole world assumes thats the role one should take

If we wonder why they do, see that they do, then this reversal is an exact attack on why they do