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Protect the boss. Just watch it.

Even tho SWDBS is full of flaws and awful BS, the MC was so much more sensitive. And iirc she gives him a backhug which i love. Idk she reigns the rship which is why i like them so much in that dumb show.

There are few of these!
More shows with sensitive ML’s and women who are at the front. I think a lot of Jealousy incarnatw did this just by the nature of it, she takes care of him thru 2 things that are “humiliating” to one’s masculinity. Pretty cool imo

Also hope md shin hye gets another role like that or even sth crazier

For sure! I have seen a lot of KSA’s work. I admire her for her stature and size and talent. Kim sam soon is probably the worst thing ive ever seen LOL but this was me watching in like 2014? So things had changed.
City Hall is still a beloved drama to me.

HTJ was something else. I understood her but for me the frustration was how intelligent but frickin stupid she was being. But imo thats the whole show.

I recently realized the writer was a woman and looked at her other work and the dialogue is riddled with clues about the women and their place in the world. Young Eun soo had to be the greatest example, perhaps a mix of yeo jin and yeon jae (now that i think about it their names are kinda similar!) but yea so glad u put her there. First time i saw it ahe rly confused me then i Realized. Hopefully more ppl come to like her!

i really need to watch woman of dignity. kim sun ah picks some really interesting characters. although i found watcher exhausting, han tae joo was so interesting and so vulnerable and messed up and weird.

young eun soo is one of THE best female characters i have seen. all women in that drama are phenomenal, but young eun soo's arc is almost unbelievable. i will never forget the conversation with seo dong jae and she says, "i'm not afraid to die" while his response is "well, i am." what an interesting group of women. i love that show alot.

go hye ran is an exercise in female characters that are characterized as strong that i, personally, see as incredibly weak and awful humans unbearable to watch. feel the same with ma yi deum. my approach to female characters and their strengths is balanced by weakness but their inevitable character arc. women behaving as disgustingly as men isn't what i believe is a strong character. in fact, oftentimes it's the ones that are aware of their circumstance and find the ways out of it.

over the years there's been a few that i really love.

as of right now, 'be melo' is showing some very strange but cool women. i think the first drama i had ever seen that had a female character that was truly autonomous was 'protect the boss.' it's not an amazing drama but i have kept it in my heart for this reason.

and i am echoing children of nobody and stranger. 'stranger' has some of the best written women i've ever seen and it's taken me about 6 rewatches to truly get a handle on what that writer was trying to do. almost every single interaction these women have with others and each other highlights the male domination they're living in. i think it's an extraordinary feat.

also 'save me' s1 has one of the most interesting female leads i have EVER seen. seo ye ji is fascinating and so is the right-hand woman to the leader.

i think we have to redefine what makes good and strong female characters. when there's a writer that can understand how complex we [women] are and writes all types of them (stranger for example, but for a much lighter example let's say the female characters from inspector jo--weird, shrill, peculiar, FUN), we can feel it.

hmmm who else. there are a lot of examples, it just sucks that we have to search for them. alternatively, there are a lot of weak willed female characters that are as unbearable as the "strong" ones that i dislike. i think a lot of the people here are women, so we are all strongly identifying with them!

oooh and what about cool/interesting/strong teenagers? solomon's perjury comes to mind

Y-E-S

HES SOOOOO GOOD LOOKING

she's good. some flaws but she's good. and her face is so different

sorry what does your second sentence mean (being beaten--the last ep you mean?) think it's a testament of how terrible they are at their jobs

theyre not really similar at all except for the cults. im actually rewatching it right now but cant ever rewatch s1. s2 is sad but not as dark? kinda

honestly i wasn't surprised but not in the ~im so good at mysteries~ but it's just that he was always a frickin weirdo. i still dont quite understand wtf is up--he works as a killer right? or leads the gang? idk i havent finished ep 14 bc i'm starting from ep 6 to pick up on all the things i've missed.

these "twists" would have been better if they were handled better tbh. but i do think the show was like "oh yall THOT" lmao

all of them have seriously dropped the ball so often. when he was in the house and THE SHOWER WAS RUNNING he should /not/ have been shocked. then again why the hell didn't they both know they never talked to each other on th ephone? it's just shit like this that is so annoying.

this show is so interesting and it's clear it has a hooking point. i want to know the answers. but it's got a big issue in the presentation and just simply presenting questions and "complex situations" and not answering them. it's hard to watch every week though it's definitely gonna be best as a binge. i wouldn't give it this high of a rating tbh, but i understand it and the allure. i've rewatched episodes quite a bit. so i guess still being entertaining at the least while having this many holes is a testament.

the question i pose is: is this good writing or did they think this was good writing and make a practically unsolvable confusing case. i never struggled with the decisions our characters made, i struggled with the basis of it.

this is like a supernatural slice of life and found family. it’s Really liking it so far

it’s definitely a very interestingly shot/edited/etc drama

i had to drop it like 5 times then i realized it was Them not Me. very few people have said how disgusting this dude is!!!!

this makes me so happy '-' tysm!!! #factsfirst !@!!!

thank god the drama is fun as hell!

exactly, so then you would know that it is plausible. my question is what part is propaganda and insulting to you. truth is stranger than fiction.

also, if you had actual substantial knowledge of the past in a global context, it seems as if you do not, you would not make such a vague statement with no tenue. hopefully with the things i have mentioned, you gain some.

#1 https://kisskh.at/32227-designated-survivor#comment-2522779

#2 i asked you what part [of the show] was insulting. but your answers are above.

this isn't what i'm asking you. i do not have to answer this question because it's a digression but i will.

if i have a working understanding of history, esp the US and imperialism, in context then i am not taking propaganda at face value. propaganda in media would be having NK actually be the perpetrators and reinforcing that red scare. no country gets out unscathed here.

i digress, that's not my point, but history tells the truth. the show gives you plenty of literal historical facts, they mention what happened after 9/11, mention battles/fights with NK while we were allied to ROK, DEFCON levels (which i personally googled because I did not understand.) so this tells me that you do not have this knowledge, and should probably google.

there's also mediafactcheck which can tell you what pubs are not based in fact but propaganda (which can mean the stretching of history, manipulation...in terms of media/visual cues it is trying to persuade our minds to find the enemy of the tv show. this is not what the show is positing besides the fact that it's clearly anti-imperialist and anti-capitalist--in which case is fine because this is not a journalistic output but they are still retaining responsibility on their storytelling via the context of the world.)

currently rewatching this drama to pick up extra clues.

if you are not familiar with the subject matter and doubt its plausibility or are concerned with just how poorly it paints the military, US, SK, and the US-ROK relations i suggest googling.

here are some links:
https://www.blackagendareport.com/korea-us-imperialism-truman-trump
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/05/us-and-south-korea-gear-burden-sharing-talks/589999/
https://www.thenation.com/article/north-korea-democrats-peace-talks/
https://www.thenation.com/article/washingtons-ire-shifts-from-kim-jong-un-to-moon-jae-in/
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2015/03/south-korea-nationalist-passions-150308050755645.html

there is a bevy of information on ethnonationalism in SK, on reunification, on what the US has done in NK and the US-ROK relations, on the literal red scare and murder of communists. the full scope of the korean war
https://apjjf.org/-Charles-J.-Hanley/2827/article.html
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/southkorea/1984746/Death-squads-and-mass-graves-the-full-horror-of-the-Korean-War-finally-unearthed.html

so PLEASE do some research before you judge and make up your mind. having this background information before watching the show is very helpful, but they are writing this for a reason