Lyson

You're just a broken record at this point. We get it, your POV is: Jin good not bad. That's fine, but I disagree and I explained why and that's all I have to say about it. ✌️

It's fine to like the actors! But don't forget the story plot, it's separate. If The actors are bringing their characters to life then they're doing their jobs :)

I guess it depends on each person's idea of what is 'bad'.
For me, from the start I didn't like Jin's 'nice' demeanor, and then he proved he wasn't nice when despite how his friends acted towards Non and knowing their intentions, he still persuaded Non into their circle to essentially use him. Then, his 'helping' Non was self serving, he was doing it because he liked Non and was only 'helping' enough so that Non saw him in a good light. However, he didn't care for Non enough to tell him to stay away from his ick friends, he didn't try to warn Non about his ick friends sh*tty plans with the script even as it escalated in other ways. Jin is, ultimately, one of the ick friends. And then, if being guilty by association and using Non is not enough, he also went from 0-100 in a-holeness when his first reaction to seeing Non sleeping with the teacher was to record it. And then, it hasn't been totally confirmed yet, but if he did post that video, well, I'm sure you can see how messed up that is?

On top of that, he stayed friends with those ick people because he is one of them, how else would he have ever gotten along with them? He is a part of their group. He lies with them, knows something is dodge about their behaviour but chooses to stick around them. He benefited from Non's script by going along with Por's lie of being the one to write it. I mean, at this point, the question should be, why is anyone not against Jin.

All that said, I don't think Non is so great either. He was being bullied and he was in a very sh*tty situation and going through some stuff, but he was not innocent and he did a lot of off putting and crappy stuff too, to people who didn't deserve it, like Phi.
And no one thinks of it either, but Non considered Jin a 'friend' but still dragged him into the horse account thing along with everyone else.
Heh, all of them are messed up imo. This plot is so entertaining.

Keep in mind, all that Phi is doing could be to 'look good' in Jin's eyes. He said it so quickly and pointedly right at that moment, it felt blatant. Gaining trust is a process after all, and after their falling out as teens, he possibly has to work a little harder. I was also considering that he started to fall for Jin as a teen, as we saw, but quickly distanced himself after talking with Tan, like he realized he was f*cking up. And then after he saw all Tan lost and how he wanted to die, so much pain. Now Phi's older in present day, and hopefully (for my personal perspective) wiser, so he's doing things more maturely and not thinking with his dick.

Youtube.

I was never into Phi/Jin (or Phi/Non), or any of the pairings. Unhealthy-ass relationships abound. And I agree, I def wasn't feeling it in ep 9, THAT scene between Phi and Jin had me frowning. After ep 9, Tan is a Boss level character imo. They finally revealed more about him and it really hit just right.

WOWOOWWOW. So many INTERESTING reveals in this ep it was a banger!
Ngl, Tan went from being little more than an NPC on my radar to being BOSS level. His character personality (and the acting!) really sent me. Phi however, dropped a level for me, seems a bit daft if he is in fact falling for Jin considering all that's happened, but that could still not be the whole scope because it seemed sus the way he brought that water to Jin and then DIDN'T drink it. AND even revealing to Jin the 'story' of 'what's happened' could be a move to gain trust, but it remains to be seen whether he's actually that gullible/fickle or if it's a part of the act.

And I was right about hallucinogenics, I just didn't expect it to be made like that which was interesting. Also, it really seems White did just choose an A-grade ick partner, man, that's some shit luck. Although even he could still be a wild card, he could still be in on the whole thing. Man took a long time to help Tee when Top was beating him up 😂 which btw was a super satisfying scene heh, and that computer engineer major is still convenient! Phi and Tan would need someone to find out who posted that vid after all!

Loving this show. It just keeps raising the bar!

Just ignore the shipping keyboard warriors bro, don't let them ruin your experience. We can hope that the screenwriter has two braincells to rub together at least and knows how terrible basing a story ending on a ship would be.

If this is the case then it's better obvs. As long as it's not some predetermined thing based purely on BL couple shipping and it's about a fulfilling story plot, then it's all good.

Yeah she's a main, I assumed she'd be in every ep. She's so whiny and the childish act is very cringe. If it turns into romance in s03 I'll just tune it out. Annoying as she is, the rest of the show is interesting enough to ignore her and as long as the ML doesn't change his attitude because of 'love' it's all good.

I'm 75% done with my next The Sign FMV, just waiting on that final episode for footage! :D it's so fun! If anyone likes FMVs you can check out my first The Sign FMV here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK__Bfr-1Bg

If it turns out to be some predetermined thing I'ma just rate it 1. That's just terrible form for any screenwriter or producer. Why even bother making a show with 'suspense and plot twists' if that's the case. So lame.😂

YES.

Ngl, don't know who that is. Chinese name? Characters I haven't seen yet maybe?

That doesn't sound good for s03. I'm on ep 6 of s01 and she's even more annoying, the scene when Do Ki is in hospital after being triggered and passing out? She was at the height of being annoying with how she behaved. They called her scary but all I wanted them to say was 'stfu stop nagging' 😂 Yeesh. I actually really like the cop lady, but casting shows she doesn't appear in s02? Why can they never make the potential love interests likable in these shows 🙄 thanks though!

Question: I've watched 2 eps of s01 and I like it enough so far to keep going, but I need to know first if there is no romance OR if there is romance (because I don't especially have an issue with it), I hope it's not involving Ahn Go Eun in anyway, because I find this character a bit try-hard. Not written very well, came off annoying right out of the gate which is never a good first impression. The cop lady is better so far.

Anyway, if someone could help out and answer this, I would like to keep watching through the two seasons, and hopefully even the third.

People can speculate in any direction they want. It was my answer, so it was my perspective I shared ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Settle down 😂 I've been avoiding the 'Jin keyboard warriors' because you guys are redundant and very pressed with your defensiveness.

Anyway, my answer was in the context of the original comment here and you've obvs misunderstood. The question included: "And if both of them are in on the revenge plot (Phi and Jin) why would the murderer attempt to kill them when they are the only two there/ no witnesses?"

I answered from my perspective that Phi is in on the revenge plot, so with Jin there in the woods with him, Jin was a witness to the murderer chasing them down, and Phi needed to 'run away' from the killer as well, in order to not give himself away as being part of the revenge plot. There was nothing else here. Take deep breaths.

PS: Jin is pretty sh*t imo.

I did say that GoT is an extreme example, but there are plenty of shows to be more directly compared to The Sign. Something similar, I could mention Young Royals for example. It's a Netflix original, a foreign show which came up from no novel, no pre-established fanbase or actors (especially not for westerners). All eps released at once, they make most of their money through people already subscribed to Netflix, everybody wins. Now they're headed into a third season, all behind a paywall and everyone is happy to keep paying to watch, on a full streaming service. Also, those other Thai shows doing what their doing is no better imo, their prices are exorbitant and they're relying on extreme fans of their ships/actors to pay that kind of money for 'extras', which is fine for those who want the extras or who really like those actors, but plenty of people wanna' press play for just the episode, watch it and then move on. I'm sure lots of Thai viewers also fall into the latter category.
(as for Pitbabe, I wouldn't even watch that for free, the idea that people would pay that much is staggering 😂 but there's no accounting for taste in the end)

I do understand that Thailand's television/media works differently, but you've said yourself IF is choosing to do it that way to gain some ground on the series, and maybe they were satisfied with what they earned from their ticket sales, but fans with different circumstances may take issue with cost or wait times, or find it a bit self defeating for IF to make less money in the long run, to gain popularity in the short. That could go both ways. But I think it wouldn't be unreasonable if the next season (should there be one) or series with BillyBabe (since that's what they're selling mostly) is paid. If it's not and the process goes the same way, I guess people will be back next time having the same disagreement 😅

I guess the main problem here, as you mentioned, seemed to be with how people felt about the OP's way of wording their feelings. I simply wanted to be clear that people will only be willing to pay for what they can afford or think is worth their money, and to mention the imbalance of technical cost to literal content value. And that it's not right to tell people how they could spend their money. That would be like me saying to you, 'Netflix is pricey in your country, but if there is something on there you want to see, you should just give up some other personal expense and pay for Netflix for a month so you can watch blahblahblah...'

That's a bit much imo. Anyway, The Sign is a good show, whether anyone paid or didn't, pretty sure the next series from this lot will be a hit ✌️

I agree, for those who had the money and chose not to, they don't really have much reason to complain aside from being a bit put out about the length of the wait, which would annoy almost anyone. But there is definitely a level of judgement happening here, also assumptions being made about other people's affordability, and reasons why affordability is questionable or worth it for other people. I avoided all of it recently, since I made my choice for my reasons, but I just wanted to share the reasoning according to cost being unequal to monetary value. Anyone saying how other people should or could have spent their money or adjusted their budget is pretty out of line.