Lyson

Trailers and previews are often meant to create suspicion and raise questions and doubts, it's what keeps fans guessing. But I usually only watch the trailer and I never watch previews. xD I manage my perspectives on shows ep by ep rather. And from what I watched up to now in the show, Non and Jin are HAZARDS, just like the rest of those dysfunctional a-holes. I have no favourites so I'll make no excuses 😂even Phi, I am pretty sure he is not even remotely innocent, he probably also has some shit he's done, or will do, that is not kosher and is going to make us say WHAAAT. I watched what I watched and all of them are messed up. Only what actually happens in the show will change my mind, so we'll see how it goes!

We absolutely agree about Tee and Top though, and I'll reserve my judgement of White until we see more of how he got dragged into this shitshow.
As for Fluke, first thing I thought when he said "I don't know anything" and ran away from Jin was ' this f*cking Nie Huisang' 😂😂😂

Because they're releasing the final ep only to those who pay to see it this week, so everyone who doesn't buy the ticket has to wait. I'm not buying a ticket so I'll be a'waitin.

Not only do I have to wait until the 24th to see the conclusion 😭😭😭 but also, I've finally decided on a song for my next TS FMV but I'll have to wait longer before I'll have all the footage to even begin cutting 😭😭

Ep3 already? Nice! And nope, it has nothing to do with SKAM, except for the fact that the lead screenwriter is a European person, which, after many of the viewers like myself (familiar with SKAM) noticed the similar style and feel, checked out the details and discovered. It was often mentioned in the comments on the show while it was airing. I think a lot of other BL viewers learned about SKAM at that time because of how much it was talked about in that comment thread. Seems likely that the two creators of T8S were probably influenced by SKAM.

As for CM, after your comments, I read others down the line and a lot of people seem to have negative things to say, so I'm putting this on the backburner. Coming off The Sign yesterday, and just ten minutes ago, the latest absolute serve of DFF, I don't think I can sit through ep 8 without just dropping it. I'll table it for now, maybe come back to it when I think my patience will hold out and hope that like you said, ep 9 will revive it somewhat! I can't say I'm surprised Japan was being tightfisted, makes sense they'd want to gatekeep their 1 in every dozen or so successful BL. But I understand TayNew fans tbh, because even though I know MaxTul have retired from BL series, whenever I see them on IG together, I still wonder if we'll ever get another series from them 🥹

I wanted to ask, though, what is a polca??? Is this a fan name for TayNew followers?

HORY SHET I LOVE THIS F*CKING SHOW! I have SO MUCH to say but I don't just wanna word vomit, I need to try and organize it a little. So I'll start with-

Non: ALL that medication is for a reason! This kid is whole BAG of issues! When Phi said 'so you still haven't changed' I was like 😲 and it HIT ME. They met on a f*cking DATING APP and Non was the one who was quick to want to meet up (hook up), and Non was the one who hesitated to accept when Phi asked him to go steady, and Non lied so earnestly to Phi's face after messing around with that teacher and then his face really said 'yespleaseandthankyousir' when hot older man teacher was undressing and Non has also been sticking with that group of a-hole 'friends' because I think he lowkey liked Jin. He is obvs promiscuous to begin with and Phi was putting up with that shit! And then also, he has some anger issues too, because he clearly started losing it with Por and when he choked Top during that filming scene (loved it). Mofo is ready to SET OFF. And I knew Non would end up doing some shady shit but DAAAMN. That teacher is about to regret where he stuck his dick on so many levels.

Jin: I KNEW he had a shady side. I was actually getting annoyed with all his 'diplomacy' about his c*nt friends, brushing off their messed up behavior toward Non just because HE wanted to keep Non around because of liking him. But that's exactly what it was, he only wanted to keep Non around for himself, f*ck Non's mental health 🙄and then Jin flipped SO QUICKLY when he got jelly and angry, that's how you know he's messed up; how quickly he changed gears. The rest of the group are skulkers, being assholes and messing with Non for a power trip but trying to keep it just between them, but Jin? Nah, Jin can def be straight up cold. He went from 0 to 100 in a second when he saw Non and the teacher. And then the next day he wanted to tell Fluke 'I didn't post it' or something, but if he was that quick to film it and think of doing something so malicious to someone he LIKES as a TEEN, he'll only get worse.

Fluke: This a-hole's denial of the shit going on around him reminds me of Nie Huisang. Everything is a 'I don't know, I don't know, I really don't know' but in the present, at the cabin, we saw this bitch flip the script. Unbalanced AF.

Tee & Top; IIIICCCCCCKKKKK

Por: Well, now we know why he died first 😂😂😂😂 Non was done with this prick for so long.

Phi: This one also has a darker side and I expect we're going to see more of that in the present time, but I enjoyed the insight to his character very much in this ep!

I'm still not sure how shit went down between Non, Phi and Jin, and I'm keen to find out, but I still suspect Jin is involved, and Phi too, in the present day killing spree. I'm just not sure if they're working together or unknowingly against one another. As for White, at this point, I'm hardpressed to believe he is just a dude who's dating the wrong guy at the wrong time and in the wrong place, but wouldn't that be interesting? hehe

Anyone not watching DFF is missing out!

Ah yes, Elu <3 Elliot (Maxence) in particular is just fantastic. If you end up watching T8S let me know what you think, even now, it stands out for how it was directed and acted. As for The Sign, I'd vouch for it absolutely, but only if you're into supernatural fantasy stuff. The whole plot is centered around the supernatural, so.

Now, about CM xD I still haven't watched the new ep, I might have time tomorrow but honestly, you're comment on it makes me think I should cut my losses? Is it that boring? Did it kill your interest? It's funny because I was thinking when I first started watching this that they may have cast TayNew like 'pairing bait' for BL fans, you know? Like, they knew people would watch it just for the pairing, but I didn't know what to expect 'passion' wise. All I know is I'm not surprised, Tay and New have barely any onscreen romantic chemistry, since DBK.
The producers were probably hoping to bring Thai CM home and sweet and fluffy but fans are gonna be 💀

Hmmm, so that was great, I really like the physical fight scene choreography in this show. I def enjoyed Phaya and Tharn's fight scene with those dudes. And everything is still clearly moving toward a winner takes all sort of ending, especially with Doc's revealed POV. Hopefully there'll be an all out fight scene between Phaya and the Doc, BUT, real talk, it all felt a leeetle too rushed. I especially felt that way about Phaya's decision to 'let go' (no spoiler ya'll know what I'm talking about).

And because it was rushed, I feel like we didn't get enough emotion or explanation in certain scenes. This ep could have used more shock and anger, especially on Tharn's part when Doc showed up. But when the production rushes, they can't take the time to build up scenes properly ಥ‿ಥ
I'm hoping episode 12 is longer, or that there is more planned afteer, like a s02 or something, because it still seems like there is so much to unpack here.
Still a W ep though.

I've followed exactly 3 BL's pairs for a while, and only recently added another one. MaxTul, MosBank, SantaEarth and recently, BillyBabe of The Sign, Interestingly enough, I only follow them because I like each individual in each pair for how they come across as people, and also how genuinely close they seem to be to eachother. I don't get invested in their personal lives, but I do find them appealing and interesting enough to follow and watch the stuff the feature in. The rest of the Thai pairs I don't have any invested interest in. Not even TayNew, even though I like Tay. When it comes to watching, I try to pick BL's I think will be a decent watch (decent being relative to the average output quality) and whatever else I try and don't like, I drop. My watchlist is not very long, and my dropped list gets longer everyday 😂

AND I'm always pleased to talk with another SKAM fan! For me, SKAM wtFOCK holds the title as the best of the lot, I know usually the original is meant to be best, and I LOVE Evak, but Sobbe were just perfection. I literally just rewatched it two weeks ago. I like YR's too, keen for s03, but I'm also oldschool, maybe because I aint a yungun' 😂, I come from the QaF era, Brian Kinney is a standing staple in my slash fandom interests.

I tend not to compare BL's to western shows though, or the western onscreen pairs I like. I feel like I know what I sign up for when I watch a BL, so I don't go there, you know? Keep em' separated in my mind. But I will NOT watch crap, even if I like the actors, I will drop it. KinnPorsche baffles me though, to this day I do not understand the hype. I can't even remember the eps I did watch before I dropped it. I also haven't watched Cutiepie, but if it's been around a while and I haven't seen it's because I vetoed it. But yeah, a large amount of BL watchers watch anything, you get fanfic readers like that too, anything, they'll read it, now matter how bad.

If TayNew kiss, for me it'll just be a part of the story, a part that was missing in the JP adap. and hopefully it hold up. I'm watching CM because it's a decent pass time, that's the reason I comment on it so late, because I get around to it when I can. Like, it's entertaining, but I'm not waiting for it. I'm more keen on The Sign and DFF right now.

As for the Taiwanese BL's, I just dropped one today LOL😂 I can't say they're GOOD good. hehe. unfortunately they're sill majorly lacking in many ways and they also have their tedious tropes. If I have to think of one I enjoyed recently, quite a bit, I could only recommend Kiseki: Dear To Me. The actors of You are Mine did a great job and their fanservice is boss level, but the BL itself was pretty mid.
Speaking of recs though, since you mentioned SKAM, I'm very happy to recc a South Korean BL to you, maybe you've heard about The Eighth Sense? It's like a South Koran SKAM tbh. I really enjoyed it. You might like it.

PS: I see your rating for The Untamed👏I concur.

*watches ep 1*
Me: A'ight, I'ma head out.

I love some of the classic shonen jump manga's tbh, but the new ones are almost all blegh. BL's mangas are a dime a dozen, you can read twenty and not find a single original idea or plot 😂 and unfortunately their live adaptations mostly stay true to that. Like that trope, where Achi did the long unnecessary run to the airport in (I think) ep 6, I also cringed.

I can't say that I think Tay does much better in romantic scenes, he also looks lowkey awkward getting physically close to New. Maybe he's marginally better at it but not really. Maybe these two need a new BL partner is they intend to stay in this industry, just let them be besties irl, you know? No having to canoodle on screen 😂 I don't think they're going to blow anyone's mind when they eventually kiss or whatever in this series. I mean, maybe they'll surprise us, but I doubt it.

Many people follow the production companies, but if I'm being honest, I don't xD I just cherry pick the pairs I like and don't pay too much attention to who they're working for. And after DBK, I always liked Tay Tawan, not so much New, but I never had an issue with him in any way. Regarding fanservice, I barely watch that stuff, except for the select few pairs I REALLY like. Taiwanese fanservice is killing it though, they've really upped their game. Have you seen the ML's from You are Mine do fanservice? WoW.

I won't even bother with the manga 😂 I enjoyed the Japanese adap, and for now, I'm enjoying the Thai one too. I do think however, that Tay and New still lack the ability to carry off romantic physical attraction when they act, which kinda kills the vibe.

I stopped reading BL manga's even before I stopped reading most Shonen Jump. Japan's manga/anime media is 95% miss imo. And the adapted BL's are more often than not quite boring and predictable. That said, I did really enjoy the Japanese adaptation of CM, but I'm also enjoying the Thai version. Even with the ridiculous date in ep7, I still enjoyed it.

Mentioning the 1 year interest versus the 7 year interest though, I have to say, one year is far better than 7 years, which is super excessive and borderline creepy imo. I think they should have kept the one year angle, or at least not pushed it beyond two years if they wanted to extend it. But that and date are the only plot line drawbacks, and as I mentioned, I feel like Tay and New still don't have very good physical chemistry after all this time. Their closeness screams 'just friends' 😂 which does take away from the whole 'falling for each other' thing.

I'm surprised it's in the manga! xD For such a cutesy relationship of two people who work in the same office, I didn't expect the manga to push the status/social difference in the money department too, not when Kurosawa is already so 'successful and talented'. And yeah, I guess Gmmtv really pulled out all the stops.

It makes me lowkey think the Japanese adaptation is better than the manga because the date in ep7 was a little hard to watch 😂 There was a time I would have read the original, but these days aside from reading One Punch Man updates and the occasional manhua, I can't be bothered with manga, so thanks for the info. It's good to know that the Thai version is following the original quite closely, it's been a lot more fleshed out and funny too.

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Preferences are all good. I think you should try TWM, it's oldschool BL, one of the originals, which, while it has a lowish budget and is 'flawed' since it's not trying to keep up with all the new fangled rules to keep the masses happy, it's hella funny, naturally acted, the ML's are unrivaled for their chemistry (imo) and there's way less make up on everyone. It is and will prob always be my fave Thai BL, I will always recc it and I didn't see it in your watchlist. You might hate it, but don't knock it til you try it.

Oh and everyone is loud and funny. To this day, Korn, Knock, Yiwah, Farm, Fai and Phubet will always be THE BEST group of friends I've ever seen in a BL.

Sorry I just, I laughed so hard, because I love TWM and after I wrote this I went through pictures from the show and came across this picture; https://i.pinimg.com/originals/24/01/56/240156614b1e5138c9997c47a3295f40.jpg
I love these dorks. Makes me wanna' rewatch it AGAIN.

Yeah, I thought I remembered it differently, Kurosawa was interested but also a pretty basic guy when conveying his interest. He wasn't desperately yearning like Karan comes across (funny though it may be in some scenes). As for the expensive, overkill date, I don't know if Karan's actions are following the manga, although I think it's unlikely. So the Thai version has added this to create a need for Achi to have a breakthrough in communication maybe.

But yeah Jinta and Min are currently leading the relationship development race and the guy who plays Jinta really acts the part well, I feel like Jinta REALLY likes Min and is doing his best to work out his big first time attraction. Rock surprised me, he went from being hyper and a little spazzy to being more mature and smooth around Pai 🤣

I feel like saying 'girly' is not accurate😂 like, what exactly does he do that's girly? I can't remember a single action Tharn did that came across that way. And weak too, in which instances? He is physically smaller than the guys around him, which, yes, he will have to work a little hard to hold his own...but he does hold his own. As for how they fell in love, a hint; predestiny/fate/soulmate. It's a fantasy fiction/supernatural genre after all, so that's a big part of their connection.

And then, about him being the bottom, maybe it's just me, but I don't get why people have an issue with a clear top/bottom' couple. It used to be that in the ever expanding slash fandoms people thought it was heteronormative association and many people were against it for that reason, but with all the fights about that, people somehow forgot that there are actually gay people who have those preferences, and also many gay people who are vers.

I will admit that BL's still very heavily choose to favour the clear top/bottom angle (probably due to the fanbase they are catering to), and I do think they could mix it up a little more for people watching who prefer a vers couple, but I also don't think it's fair to dislike the character just because they're clearly 'bottom', because there are people with that preference. And then you also mention manly, which doesn't have anything to do with tops or bottoms. You want to see two leads who're manly in appearance? Together With Me has two leads like that, in fact all the main males are 'manly' in TWM, but still the LGBTQ+ characters are portrayed top/bottom.

YIISSSS

Interesting ep, lots of lols too. I like the spanners they're throwing into the works for the ML's, nothing overly angsty or dramatic but still the kinds of things that cause problems in relationships everyday. Also, did Jinta...throw the contact lens on the floor and run out of the shop?? I mean, contact lenses ain't cheap, who does that? 😂 I like the development of his relationship with Min though, it's the best development of the lot so far, even if Jinta is a giant spaz.

Some funny highlights in this ep for me included Jinta walking into that pole on the sidewalk, the shop assistant lowkey trolling Achi about the shirt, sassy cat thinking the flirtation was annoying and Pai dropping the camera 😂 because looking at her expression in that moment, I don't think she meant for it to drop. I also enjoy Achi and Jinta's conversations. I'm enjoying the humor this show is bringing in general.

The Lay's product placement though, heavy handed much xD with a display like that they should have showed him buying the chips in the shop instead, have all the bags lined up so prettily in the snacks aisle or summat, because who buys a basket of one kind of a potato chip brand like that? LOL Even the clip of them opening a bag each was more subtle. On a related note, Pai had the best flavour. Yum. Also I like Pai and Rock, I think it's an interesting couple dynamic they're building there.

About the ML's - Unpopular Opinion, but Tay and New are having the same trouble they had in DBK, i.e: they have GREAT chemistry, right up until they actually have to physically get close to one another. The moment they actually make contact, they just don't quite click imo. DBK didn't suffer for it though, but it's been a few years and I'm not sure that sort of stiffness in romantic scenes will carry nowadays with how much the BL scene has improved and is striving for believable chemistry with their couples. But I guess we'll see how they do as their relationship moments escalate.

Also, I've never been a fan of the trope where one half of the couple is trying so damn hard, and it's been a while since I watched the Japanese version, but I don't recall Kurosawa coming across quite so desperate and simpy. I mean, it's like, ever since Karan had one 'meaningful' conversational with Achi, his whole life has revolved around him, and that's just...weird, and in some way, even a little creepy 😂 Their dynamic could use a little balance and Karan allowing things to happen more naturally.

And finally, Tay was looking particularly good in this ep. 🤌