P Lam

I didn’t get what you said about BY still will do that. Doing what?

That is because she was made to feel she was not worthy of good things, that she was illiterate and uncouth.

That’s why LBY is the better man.

And having a friend or suitor like LY for a short period of time is not bad for CSS at all. It probably gave her some grounding and confidence while she finds herself but poor LY as we know he will be forced to marry his ex.

Per the emperor, there had been rumors that LBY might be gay because he had not been interested in women so he was very intrigued and happy when LBY showed interest in CSS.

It’s not just a story but a recount of story of himself and Third Aunt. That’s why CSS said the fiancé was a narcissistic jerk. I just loved his shocked face when that happened.

The mother knew very well what her in-laws were like. Do rewatch the episode 4 where husband wanted to bring both twins with them but mum decided to leave daughter behind because daughters get married and leave the family whereas son, if ruined , will need to be fixed. Her in laws were mean to CSS to get back at the mother. Maybe mum will redeem herself later- one can only hope

Emperor Wen: 5 BC - 57 AD. Cloud A gives an excellent and interesting background information to this story in the discussion area above. Emperor Wen is the emperor in this drama.

I’m likely wrong. Read translated excerpts of the novel by Scarfie above that when she played the flute for LBY in his roomafter he was beaten, the empress and Emperor also heard it in their room. Could be a wrong conclusion by me. The emperor was there when the doctor was treating his wound and when he was in bed but popped up when the emperor said he wants to send someone to Hua City to award Magistrate Cheung posthumously. But in rewatching that clip he was in the ‘Temporary Royal Palace , not the Palace. His nickname is Shiyi Lang ( 11th son). The emperor has 10 biological sons

actually, I am familiar with Asian ( Chinese) mothers and I’m one myself and cannot condone what she’s doing. My own mother is a very traditional and conservative Chinese mother and you can read all you want into it. It’s nothing directed at you at all, so please don’t feel that way. I was just giving my thoughts as you and others did. I just latched on to your thread as it was the last one before mine

Yes, I though I saw a clip on YouTube regarding this also.

But css knows that there are lines she shouldn’t cross like not accepting the cape from LBY in ep 15 since she is engaged to Y L. She is careful not to get into situations that could be misconstrued with other men, except LBY deliberately muddied the waters by saying she undressed him to treat him in front of her parents 🤣 🤣

LBY’s status is much higher than CSS’s dad. In ep 1, he was conferred with many titles. He is also the son of the Ling Marquis and also the Emperor’s foster son which accords him his highest status and honor.

In one of the episodes in Hua City, LY said to CSS, when he becomes an official… meaning he has ambitions to better himself and could move away from home. So his situation is not as dire as it seems. It’s my understanding that during the Han dynasty, which this is, the emperor appointments officials. LY being a student of Bailu and a nobleman could probably get an appointment if he applied himself. It’s just that he has been told to just persue a pampered life of a nobleman. He is also the 2nd son of the 2nd son of the Lou family, so his leaving the family is not that critical to the family. And they can’t flaut an appointment from the emperor. With him trying to live up to CSS, I can see him improving himself to impress her. The mum did worry about CSS marrying into a difficult family but don’t forget the mum also told 3rd aunt in ep 15, she is worried that Aunt Ge would be upset if CSS married above YangYang and CSS marries before her. So it’s always not just about CSS’s well-being which it should be, but there are always other motives.

If she really feels guilty, and wants a better marriage for NiaoNiao, esp with LBY, she should start with teaching her etiquette (or hire a tutor to do it )and how to behave in society. That way, at least she knows how to properly greet the emperor as in ep 22 trailer. Basically, what has she done for Niai Niao except to discipline her and complain? Notice she’s always angry when talking to and about her daughter? It’s not that she don’t know how based on her interaction with YangYang. And in episode 15 when 3rd aunt tells mum about how Niao Niao saved them from the bandits and her response was ‘ So what? it’s just luck’ When aunt said Niao Niao help reconstruct Hua city and remodeled farmers’ tools, her curtnresponse is ‘ So what, that’s nothing’. Wow, not an ounce of acknowledgement or praise. She’s got to know what Niao Niao did was really meritorious. If it was Yang Yang (though not YangYang’s fault) she would be full of praises. Seriously something wrong with her. If it was you and your mother said this, how would you feel?

She is the one at the lantern festival who pushed CSS aside

And she threw the ball back which I’m sure, no body had done before and that increased his interest in her.

Flirting in a rather condescending and mean way.

He and his ex were childhood sweethearts but she was always mean to him because she was spoilt and a brat, but from what I read, they learned to love each other and when he was forced to marry her, he was good to her. He is a true gentleman, that’s why I like him,

He is SO ridiculous. Didn’t treasure her when he had the chance and now, a thousand regrets.