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I think of it as Chi Cheng being unbothered about his clothes 😂 Man lives alone and his faithful grape-eating sidekick whose name I forget is probably who does his laundry hahahaha! But he loves dressing up his Da Bao.

Woah!!!! Really? 🫣

The second photo seems edited?? Lol

Chi Cheng is a sadist who gets off on his partners being in pain…seems he’s got a masochistic streak too 🥹 Xu Ning’s expression and the voice actor’s grunt went oh so well together in this scene! 🔥 🔥 Thanks for the gif!

I think he’s also got a very stereotypical view of what intimacy means between men and thinks he doesn’t need to hold back his strength when he’s with men. He mentioned something of the sort to Da Bao if I remember right.

I thought so too. I don’t look at any of their physical/intimate interactions as a sign of emotional closeness but more as a need for possession or establishing ownership as they haven’t exactly stepped into that safe space yet where kisses are, or can be, slow and savoured. Da Bao especially has serious abandonment issues (and the guilt about his deception) and it is insinuated that his relationship with Yue Yue wasn’t full of intimacy or emotional closeness either. Chi Cheng’s kisses are so dominating as that’s who he’s always been and maybe even more so after his fallout with Wang Shou - he needs to be in control and only looked for the thrill and gratification that came with the act. Throughout the series I noticed that the times he is calm is when Da Boa is having an emotional breakdown about wanting to be the only person in Chi Cheng’s life. And, Da Bao’s kisses are more of a dare - as if he wants to prove to himself that he can. So ofcourse the way he kisses is going to be clumsy and awkward.

I love how the actors have played the characters- Da Bao is loud and exaggerated and all over the place while Chi Cheng is calm and controlled and oh so dangerous. You can see how their characters are sort of bleeding into each other as they grow closer in the latest episodes with Da Bao calming down and Chi Cheng getting worked up. It’s super interesting.

Absolutely. The last time this happened was during The Untamed and thankfully, I had already finished the show by then. It was heartbreaking nonetheless to know that the world could not accept a person for who they are simply because of delusional ideas. I remember the same happening with the Addicted actors. It was quite satisfying to see them all overcome the cruelty that was thrust upon them to rise way above it all and become completely untouchable in their own rights.

I hope these two young men can do the same.

Thank you so much for bringing this up.

I started the show with a lot of excitement and anticipation and after stumbling upon the posts (like you, I prefer not to know anything about real lives but in today’s world, that’s almost impossible), ep9 and 10 were very painful to watch. I couldn’t get into it at all and I was torn about whether I should continue or not as I know that I wouldn’t be able to focus on the show while remembering what their real lives are like. Reading your statement now has given me a lot of relief. I too will get back to it when I am ready to.

Sending them a lot of love and healing ❤️‍🩹 They do not deserve this.

Bingo!!!!!!!!! What the heck kinda chemistry is this!!!!!!!!!

I came here for this exact same thing! I’m curious too! Who are they??

Ah! I also thought there was something amiss with the translation then assumed he meant to say "Are you that upset about your fight?" or something lol

A bit late to the party 🙂

Thank you for saying this. I’ve been putting off watching this drama because of how much I love Hidden Love and wasn’t ready to delve back into that world. I am now all caught up cos once I started this few days back, I couldn’t stop and, I am completely heartbroken for Wen Yifan. And it is not cos of what she’s been through but cos of how it has affected her. This kind of trauma is not something one can simply cure with “love”. It is like she hasn’t had the chance to deal with or process anything that has happened to her since her father died as she’s only been in survival mode since. And just as she was letting down her guard little by little, someone who represents her most traumatising memory shows up. We have to remember that he not only reminds her of the SA but also about the time her mother abandoned her - yet again - at a time when Wen Yifan most needed her. As a viewer, this was one of the most difficult scenes for me to watch. A trauma survivor’s recovery is heavily dependent on the reaction of whoever is with them in the aftermath of the trauma. And as a child, the reaction and reassurance of their caretaker/s is very very important and here we see Wen Yifan coming to the scary realisation that no adult is on her side. It’s no wonder she runs when she sees the uncle cos to her, Sang Yan still doesn’t count as an adult. He is a part of her childhood and so still a child in her mind when she goes back into survival mode and so it never even occurs to her that she can turn to him for support. Instead, she goes back to the instinctual response of wanting to save him cos he represents the good bits of her childhood (and again, a child who cannot do anything in this situation) and she doesn’t want to taint him. The scene where she confronts the mother, the aunt and the uncle is so well done cos she thinks she has the power to do it now cos she is an adult but you clearly see how she is doing it from the space of her inner child. I feel for her so so much.

I have faith in Sang Yan and Si Qiao. I like how SQ came to the realisation that she only thought about herself and how she felt when WY left but now understands that she needs to focus on why WY left. That’s a good friend right there.

I agree! Precisely what I was thinking too while watching this. Loved his quiet confidence and the control he’s got in his body - it was like he was almost floating in some of those stunt scenes even in heavy armour!

After Duke Su, he’s my favourite (almost) Duke Ding 😌😍😍

Looks like Ji Su was conflicted about her feelings for Ha Bin and carried a lot of guilt wrt that too. Seems like jiSu and TaeSu were at odds because of HaBin and that is what led to her death.

I think it could be a trauma based response cos she is shown to be laughing and behaving like a typical happy child while her brother was alive.

Seems there is more to the story about her brother’s death too.

There was someone on the bike at the time. 😃

Maybe the teacher is who found out about the girls’ relationship and threatened them. Maybe LSH had to do something shady for the teacher to make him quiet. Maybe Jisu found out about the relationship through the teacher and he was hoping to blackmail her (along with the landlady). But then Subyeon ran away and ended up locked in the basement under CYM’s thumb and she ran away to Jisu and got killed either by Jisu or the teacher. Maybe CYM knows the teacher and landlady are working togther which is why he is controlling her

The pacing is amazing! The tension is so palpable and I feel for both the dad and the child 😂

Why is Jisu’s phone screen showing the photo? Did she perhaps change the connection to her name after killing Suhyeon? But if so, why does Ha Bin have the phone? Did she get it from Song Min? And yea, seems HaBin didn’t know that Suhyeon was dead…seems they had a falling out or something going by the way the photo was destroyed

Sooo many questions and its soooo good 😀😀

True! I kept saying “How To Get Away With Murder” while they were showing that scene 🤣