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Good choice.

Subs (translation wise) are very good. Only problem someone may have is regarding the segmenting. They just "pass" very quickly compared to Viki and sometimes it may be difficult to read on time.

Viki has two "packages". One with 720p and no downloads and another with 1080p and downloads. I thought it was pricier, but iqiyi was definitely a better choice, cause it has full HD and it is cheaper than Viki.

Many, including myself, are avoiding it.
The Kdrama is my fav series of all time, and I know I'll just be compairing.

I'm glad it's good though.

Stay away from twitter (X). It is full of spoilers, even before the final episodes air.

Great input regarding cultural mindset.

Corporal punishment was (and still is) a thing in many countries. In Greece, we also had it and it was also considered more or less the same. A way to discipline the kid, same thing with the teachers. It's more of the older generations now though and mostly "forgotten" (maybe putting aside some places in Greece).

I personally saw it more from the "abuser/abusive person" pov and I think their relationship and his character are very well written no matter how one perceives it. I am glad you shared this and made me see it from a cultural mindset too.

I honestly don't care about who will end up with HX. Well, we all know, it is a drama after all and since they love each other, I like the main couple. But the other dynamics in the series are just very interesting and also deserve some recognition and understanding.

From a more western pov it also shows how family shapes ones character and how important upbringing and life events are. What you mention is probably also gonna be why HX chooses to break up with the ML. He'll honor her family and father, same way she abandoned her dream cause of his injury, cause China is family-orientated and filial piety is much more impotant compared to other countries. For example, if I am not mistaken, even though in the west it is natural for someone to put his elderly parents in a nursing home, it is not as widely accepted in China, because of the filial piety and the idea that kids should be taking care of their parents.

I hope the two male leads just cooperate to take the dad down and just fix their relationship step by step. Not sure how that will go though. Taking into consideration how strict China is when it comes to financial crimes, the dad and the son could just end up in jail. Even though I am hoping for the best, there are only two possibilities. Either PZ or his dad will leak ZY's identity and since in the previews it seems like PZ will find out about the relationship between ZY and HX, he'll probably leak the info to keep her close to him. I hope I am wrong though,

PZ's father is definitely the main reason that the hostility between the main characters was created. Even if he didn't insert lies perse, such a huge change of dynamics, combined with his abusive behaviour for years, can easily create a hostily and competitive environment where the "fittest" and the "most capable" survives.

I am not saying PZ is a saint. He has comitted many wrongdoing and I am not defending him. I get why he acts the way he does, but I don't justify his actions.

I am talking only for this particular scene.
Yes, he can't go against his dad, but at the same time he did confront his dad about HX when he found out he's spying on her.

You know what could have solved everything? If they knew who her dad is. If she was a normal girl, no one would bother with her. And also if the brothers could just communicate. They are at odds with each other and it is just unfortunate.

It's difficult to do so, cause his dad is basically number one in the industry. Not even ZY dares to cross him yet, before finding the adequate evidence. And his life is not depending on him.
I am glad he at least wants to get more involved in the finances of the company.

Definitely. He could have not mentioned her in the table for sure. That's what created the whole problem. His dad probably wouldn't spy him otherwise. I just find it unfortunate to only blame him in this particular case and not the dad for being the way he is.

PZ is not the sanest person out there and I get his dad is a psycho and he should know better and not mention it, but at the same time I'm a bit bitter that people are always blaming the kids for the wrongdoings of their parents.
Same thing that will happen to ZY now. People will blame him for what his dad did. He changed his identity for something he should never have been blamed for from the get go. Of course truth will be revealed in the end and his fame will be cleared, but it pisses me off that people in Cdramas and well also irl prefer not seeing the core of the problem and blame everyone else.

Definitely.

He could have not mentioned her in the table for sure. That's what created the whole problem. His dad probably wouldn't spy him otherwise. And of course if they knew her identity, this may have never happened.

I just find it unfortunate to only blame him in this particular case and not the dad for being the way he is. PZ is not the sanest person out there and I get his dad is a psycho and he should know better and not mention it, but at the same time I'm a bit bitter that people are always blaming the kids for the wrongdoings of their parents.

Same thing that will happen to ZY now. He will be blamed for what his dad did, even though he was a child back then. Of course truth will be revealed in the end and everything will get fixed, but this whole way of behaviour is pissing me off in Cdramas.

Same thing goes for both of them now. They are not as strong as him. Man is super powerful in the industry unfortunately. Thankfully this is a drama and thinks will end up well in the end.

Definitely. He could have not mentioned her in the table for sure. That's what created the whole problem. His dad probably wouldn't spy him otherwise and wouldn't find out about HX.

I just find it unfortunate to only blame him in this particular case and not the dad for being the way he is. PZ is not the sanest person out there and I get his dad is a psycho and he should know better and not mention it, but at the same time I'm a bit bitter that people are always blaming the kids for the wrongdoings of their parents.

Same thing that will happen to ZY now. He will be blamed cause of the identity of his dad, even though he was just a kid back then.His adult life and everything he build could collapse cause of sth that never was his fault.

Of course truth will probably be revealed and his name and reputation will be cleared, but that type of behaviour is pissing me off and it's very common in China and in Cdramas etc. Someone's parents may be scumbags and their children get dragged even for no reason sometimes, just because they are related to them.

Yeap. Man is insane and he can't go face to face with him. He even revelead that the dad followed him when he was abroad. It was probably the reason he noticed someone followed HX and knew who it was. He said that "he had done this again".

I definitely would like seeing more of their family life it would be interesting. From what we see, it seems he's greedy, but only abuses his son. He praises his wife and has a good name in the industry. PZ looked awed that his dad did that to ZY which is weird.

That is almost for sure. It was implied from the get go and it will probably be revealed in the upcoming episodes, he will clear his name etc. That's why the dad basically followed HX too. He said to PZ "Don't you know who her father is?". He probably wants out whoever was part of that collapse back then cause it gets him in danger. He doesn't care about getting his hands dirty. After all, he basically comitted fraud with the finances of the company to stay number 1 in the industry. We better see him in jail though (PZ can easily end up there too) and not just the typical censorship "he served life in jail for fraud" after the drama ends.

Definitely, but like someone else commented below (in another post) all his relationships were transactional. I don't think he knows how else to show interest and care. He could have not mentioned her in the table for sure. That's what created the whole problem. His dad probably wouldn't spy him otherwise. I just find it unfortunate to only blame him in this particular case and not the dad for being the way he is. PZ is not the sanest person out there and I get his dad is a psycho and he should know better and not mention it, but at the same time I'm a bit bitter that people are always blaming the kids the wrongdoings of their parents.
Same thing that will happen to ZY now (even if in the end the truth will be revealed).

Quoting my post:

"Can the two brothers just team up and go end that asshole?

He's such a manipulative bastard and he's just plain horrible 🤢

Yeap, he wanted to piss him of, but can we all acknowledge that the actual problem is his father and that he needs to 🔪 or go to jail 🚔 asap?"

I did focus on the scene between PZ and ZY cause it pissed me off, but what I initially said, like literally first two sentences, is that the dad is the problem. Same with conclusion.

I get he has a plan, I don't justify his behaviour though.

You're right. For some reason I though she had mentioned it to him more vaguely of course.

Thing is that many people may watch this for fun or not have watched enough dramas.

In that case, it's not exactly in their favour. It also can cause confusion for people that don't watch many dramas cause they are honorifics that are used for many characters.

I've watched quite a few series with people that don't watch many Asian series, and it just confuses them cause they see the same words for different characters. Especially in period dramas. Like we can have Xiao Yu, Xiao Pei, Xiao Zhen, Xiao Chen etc.

Plus especially in historicals it can cause hilarious misunderstandings.

Once we were watching a series and in the first episodes a man that liked a woman called her Jie and they translated it as sister. And when it become obvious that he loved her shit became super awkward.
Not to even mention the "brother". It's impossible for someone who doesn't watch enough to understand when they mean it literally and when they don't.

And as someone who does subtitling its even difficult for me sometimes to tell from the get go if two people are for example real brothers or they just call each other that.

It's just easier for the international audience, especially people that don't watch too many dramas and it doesn't cause misunderstandings. Plus not all people like to search something while watching especially if they are not interested. Viki used to have subs that explained the honorifics, but other official platforms don't so it can get confusing. Think about Korean. We may have 5 different characters that people call oppa, how will they be differentiated? Many times I saw subtitlers using oppa and the after like 6 eps they suddenly started using an actual name and I was like "who's that now?". Now I am more acquainted with the different languages, but it's very hard for people that aren't.

Since I'll be away from the comment section now that express will be out, just wanted to say that Lu Yu Xiao is insanely pretty.

😭😭😭

I agree that he could have not mentioned her. What bothers me is that he gets all the blame, when the core problem is his father.
And the miscommunication trope that happens again and again.

HX is not in danger cause PZ likes her. She's in danger, cause her father worked on that stadium and he's involve, sth that ML knew.

He may love her, but he can still try to protect her even if she doesn't love him back.

Irony is that PZ actually confronted his father about it, after what ZY said to him. ZY doesn't dare to go against him either so far in general. He just putting up with him. He's gathering evidence yes but he's still cooperating with him.

Well this is a drama though after all. We all know how it will end. I just hope that man ends up in jail sooner and we don't have to wait till the last episode.

I truly hope not, I hate them. Unless they are like 10 minutes before the end and it shows how their life is afterwards.

About the gifts a commenter below, I believe, has explained that very well.

He used to provoke the ML a lot with HX but in the past few eps it's obvious that his feelings changed.

He could have listened I agree, but again I think everything would be solved if they could just talk like human beings. If Pei knew who her dad was (cause that's the main reason she's in any danger) things could go differently. Of course he could go all evil and reveal his identity etc.

What bothers me is the constant miscommunication and the fact that they refuse to deal (each for their own reasons) with the actual problem aka the dad. He's that all powerful character that none dares to touch, yet he is theoretically the root of all problems.

Well probably he had something to do with what happened and end up in jail.

Again his father would probably not pay that much attention if HX was just a regular girl. I agree he could be more cautious, but I still think the core problem is the father. If he always does what his father says he'll be miserable for life.

I hope they team up and sent him to jail.

Not impossible.

I hope we see ot on screen though and not get the typical "PEI SR WAS SENTENCED TO LIFE IN PRISON FOR FRAUD" after the series ends cause I'll be super mad.

I'm blaming him in this particular scene cause he should have confronted his father and blamed him and not PZ.

I didnt say that PZ is a saint or he didn't commit any wrongdoings. But in this scene, I found it irrational blaming him when the actual psycho one if his father.

Well you can scroll down and see my analysis on that rejected kiss...
I agree with you he wanted to protect her, plus it was also some type of self punishment since his life purpose is getting justice and he's trapped in it.

The problem is that everyone is blaming Pei Zhen and not his father that is the actual problem here...

Yes he could avoid mentioning he liked a girl, but it could all be solved if there was some type of communication between the brothers. HX is not in danger cause PZ likes her, she's in danger cause her father was an engineer in that accident that probably was PZs father's fault. That's the reason ML didn't say anything about her. Because she's not a regular girl and he knows about her dad. PZ didn't.

He could avoid it for sure, but the crazy one here is the father that spied, searched and followed her and he should be the one punished and cursed.