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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Jul 23, 2023
This is riveting. It kind of resembles the JD.com founder Richard Liu case that took place in the US:https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/03/business/jd-richard-liu-rape-lawsuit-intl-hnk/index.html
Gosh, I never knew of this and I owned JD.com stocks at some point šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ā€¦ the surveillance video to an apartment was a key point too along with the copious amount of alcohol!! 😯 it was also a male 3rd party who reported the incident to the police which is uncommon……… Richard Liu also had changes to his equity stake because of the case! Can’t be a mere coincidence, they must have written the screenplay based on it, it even matches timeline wise… the case was in 2019 and they filmed this in 2020…. šŸ˜šŸ™Š

Oh wow, Richard Liu could be considered a newly-wed then… 4 yrs post-marriage šŸ¤” And his wife was really young, she still is quite young…. 😳😳😳 even attended TsingHua…

Btw, if you do end up posting a review on this you should include the nytimes link, I for one was enlightened…. šŸ™‡šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø
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Replying to Nahadoth Jul 23, 2023
In the 11th episode, the investigating policewoman finally speaks about the unequal gender power dynamics concerning…
The debates between the policeman and policewoman in Ep 11. and 12 were enlightening!

I actually think Mrs. Wu believed it was mutual and consensual before Lin Kan decided to abruptly ā€œbreak-upā€ā€¦. Zhou Xun’s character equally never spoke a word about it, and I’m sure her husband wouldn’t have…. A man having an affair with a young woman is immensely different from a man targeting young women who could potentially be a rapist cum borderline paedophile… She marched into the office thinking Lin Kan was a mistress, believing that her husband is only guilty of having an affair with a young student….. I’m looking forward to the unraveling of this sub-plot and whether there will be closure for all the parties involved…
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Replying to SooReneccs Jul 23, 2023
Title Imperfect Victim Spoiler
From the moment as a newbie accepting the high pay and the high position to the ā€œemperorā€, she was already…
Yeap! So as a female esp coz she’s physically quite attractive, not to mention young…. She will be crucified coz of that… I mean it won’t be evidence but it will sway public opinion. I never even knew it was important prior to Amber Heard’s case, esp coz hers was made so public and followed closely in detail by the press.

Ummm, so how I viewed her teetering was basically wot she said when she came clean to the police in Ep.11…. I think she has subconsciously been convincing herself of accepting something unpleasant because it has been bearable prior and nothing has gone really wrong… actually I think if nobody reported it to the police she probably also wouldn’t have been ā€˜aware’ herself. Honestly I think she would even continue to go to work normally…. So in her world she probably has no idea of the ā€œstep-by-stepā€ bit because of her age + lack of experience. This is where the debates between the policeman and policewoman in Ep 11 and 12…. were super spot on and eye-opening. I actually think both of them are right and have valid points. They actually highlighted a lot of things which I’ve never even thought of on my own…. For example, the definition of rape….

So I don’t know if a post-graduate, I think they mentioned she has a Masters or a PhD… will actually analyse her own career wondering if she deserves to be promoted quickly or not…. No idea seriously, if it were me, maybe not….? I don’t know… I think it would depend on the exact circumstance just like how Zhou Xun asked her mentor on why he hired her as a graduate after sooooo many yrs when she’s already sucha capable and established lawyer….

BUT…. I do think the whole drinking soooo much alcohol during the business dinner was……. Ok, this I do think is universal and also depends on how much life experience or equally how naive a person is…… She literally just went for it and was downing glass after glass with no backup plan. Perhaps she has never been drunk her entire life…. But that basically was a suicide mission. Her mindset + character then indicates she has a bit of an ego hence the denial, but at the same time she’s also easily intimidated… like she was saying ā€œI’m not drunk etc etcā€ā€¦ and also like how she confronted Zhou Xun on how much she earns and whether she’s mocking her…. Her 5 days of contemplation was basically coz many things were a blur (thanks to the alcohol) and also equally ambivalent to her, for example she got slapped by her father….. šŸ¤” and I think that will come through in court…. Not everyone will be able to relate to her perspective and circumstance as much as I’m sure is valid even in reality. I actually think it probably applies to a lot of young women and minors.

Also, I’m curious to see how it will unfold… I actually kinda agree with the policeman…. I mean can you hold someone legally accountable for being a hypocrite + a Casanova…? I never knew it was possible. I always thought you either had to be completely unconscious or have to explicitly say no be it via actions or words. This is a mix of everything 50 shades of grey and she’s not a minor… public opinion aside, is it even punishable under the law…..? I also agree with the policewoman, gender bias aside, the law should protect those who are weak and unable to voice up on their own otherwise the legal system is broken because it is partial from the get go….
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On Imperfect Victim Jul 23, 2023
I wonder if a lawyer like Zhou Xun exists in real-life…. Up until Episode 12 she is the only one who can objectively yet emphatically observe and analyse the entire situation including the motivation and psychology of parties involved…. Slightly disappointed that Elaine Zhong’s character wasn’t able to as a policewoman, can tell she’s quite emotionally driven which isn’t great as it creates bias although it also makes her very passionate/serious about her job.
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Replying to SooReneccs Jul 23, 2023
Title Imperfect Victim Spoiler
From the moment as a newbie accepting the high pay and the high position to the ā€œemperorā€, she was already…
But in this case she ultimately didn’t accept anything after the incident.

I feel high pay, high position although she’s a newbie won’t hold up as evidence in court. Coz it equally doesn’t make sense that a newbie who has shown potential being promoted quickly indicates ulterior motive because that newbie could very well be a guy. And it’s not like he made her a director or gave her shares/equity.

She’s at the losing end because of her delayed response and the other party actually has a lot of solid evidence. Especially the one in the art gallery…. Whereby there was just the two of them and she had no idea she was being filmed…. One could argue that it reflects their private relationship when she is at her most natural relaxed state. But her case borderlines Stockholm syndrome…. So it’s obvious he has a grip on her and she finally admits it in Ep. 11 whereby she explicitly states that she is unable to say no to him….
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Replying to Blue_Umbrella Jul 23, 2023
This case is very complicated.
I can’t wait for the whole drama+thriller genre to unfold! Super curious.
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Replying to Anoif Jul 23, 2023
Title Imperfect Victim Spoiler
I felt the same, and wondered if a woman who is capable, financial successful, relatively attractive….. would…
But he has a way with people though, especially women… did you see how scared Jelly Lin was in the first few episodes….? Like it was just so heartbreaking to watch.

Yes, totally selfish narcissistic sociopath. Luckily this Li Yi is not so dumb that she isn’t even financially secure. At least she is, though still dumb…. I mean the only reason I can think of is she believes she’s in love which honestly is an amazing feat by the dude coz it’s like an open secret that he has tonnes of girls, mind you, frequently….. 🤮🤮🤮
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On Imperfect Victim Jul 23, 2023
Zhou Xun’s speech as a lawyer in Ep. 7 just left me in awe. Jelly Lin is amazing, exactly like an attractive, inexperienced 25-yr old female who just graduated and only started working for 6-months…. Liu Yi Jun was sucha good choice, it would have been disappointing if they picked a physically attractive ahjusshi. He’s so charming in this role, even I nearly shed a tear when he told his sob story of growing up…. 😢🤣

Zhou Xun’s explanation to Jelly Lin totally reminded me of the ā€œAmber Heard vs. Johnny Deppā€ case…. Although that wasn’t rape but it’s so similar in many aspects…. The entire process and outcome of that was exactly like wot Zhou Xun illustrated, providing a forewarning. I wonder if Amber Heard knew prior taking her case to court, I was definitely surprised with how her case progressed and subsequently concluded…

An important point worth noting, which is a rather rare circumstance, is that the ā€˜victim’ (until now I believe she didn’t know about the reporting prior and wasn’t involved BUT given the drama’s genre this could change) DID NOT file the police report…. I personally don’t think she would have on her own….

I think they’ve provided enough insinuation and hints to indicate that it will be similar to the Amber Heard case whereby it all boils down to who has the best legal team, best PR tactics, and who has/gathers more evidence instead of wot actually transpired and the intention/malice behind, those aren’t important anymore… Jelly Lin is already at the losing end of the race….
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Jul 23, 2023
Title Imperfect Victim Spoiler
This Li Yi is so pathetic, jealous and desperate its ridiculous.
I felt the same, and wondered if a woman who is capable, financial successful, relatively attractive….. would really….. stay as the ā€œhiddenā€ mistress…..? Is she even considered a mistress? I’m kinda dumbfounded….

Like he is sucha Casanova, eloquent with words that he calls her his ā€˜soulmate’ or confidante…. Which are already two labels that differ in meaning depending on perspective… makes me just roll my eyes…. šŸ™„
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Replying to Anoif Jul 22, 2023
Title Battle for Happiness Spoiler
I have a question, I’m slightly confused. Can anyone help plz….?
So why did Yu Jin want to kill her husband…….? It looked like Yu Jin only discovered about Ju-Ah with her husband after she sent someone to kill him….? Or was that the reason why she wanted to kill him?

Also, he purposely targeted Ju A because he knew she was his wife’s daughter? But he has been a paedophile all along?

I don’t get it, why though….? Why target her child? He just hates her for no reason?
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Replying to Anoif Jul 22, 2023
Did you just watch it too? I literally just watched it this week although it has been a while since it aired.
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Replying to MrPan11 Jul 21, 2023
Even if I love the people/the cast it started to feel extremely repetitive after a few eps, like others already…
Did you just watch it too? I literally just watched it this week although it has been a while since it aired.
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On Youn's Kitchen Season 2 Jul 21, 2023
Gosh, Tenerife was sucha good pick to do something like this. I just watched Jinny’s Kitchen and immediately missed this one…. Coz as much as Bacalar looked like paradise, (wow, imagine if I own a house with a backyard that I can just glide into crystal clear waters = šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ˜) it defo lacked diversity and intimacy….

This makes me want to open up a niche restaurant in Tenerife too. 🤣 the rare combination of diversity, landscape, culture and people flow…. made sucha good balance. So it has a good mix + flow of tourists and locals. You can literally feel all the locals are so jovial… like naturally just happy…

Also super crazy that the 4 casts could pull-off something like that… they are ā€˜superhumans’… And they were a good team. Good-looking servers are always a plus, šŸ˜, not to mention they are all so chic and hardworking. YuMi was the glue, Seo Jin really cracks me up with his ambition and greed, 🤣🤣 which made him a loose cannon, perfect for reality TV. Seo Joon was just steady and reliable although he was the maknae.

P.S: Episode 11 was AMAZING! Lol, the bts snippets were invaluable. I would like to taste the ā€˜Barraquito’ too!!!
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Replying to Anoif Jul 21, 2023
Title Jinny's Kitchen Spoiler
Try Youn’s Kitchen 2! For some reason they basically only showed the restaurant and customers for most of the…
Also Youn’s Kitchen 2 was when they first recruited Park Seo Joon which is one of the best recruits looking back, lol!

Apologies for the ramblings! I just think PD Na Yeong Seok is ingenious and forward thinking in coming up with these kinda themes… Turned me into a big fan. šŸ˜šŸ¤“
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Replying to Anoif Jul 21, 2023
Try Youn’s Kitchen 2! For some reason they basically only showed the restaurant and customers for most of the…
Watch it, I think you’d like it if you enjoy this one! ā¤ļø In a way that one had more ā€œdramaā€ coz it was their first ā€˜real’ experience overseas excluding the Bali one, that was their first one, I didn’t watch that coz it was honestly just a beach hut…

Like for Youn’s Kitchen 2, it’s crazy how they managed to cook all those dishes in that tiny kitchen. I noticed they didn’t even have proper utensils, so it was more home kitchen tools rather than professional/commercial ones… I reallllyyyy enjoyed that one, was more spontaneous, more ā€˜balanced’… also more personal/intimate…

Are you talking about Youn’s Stay? No I haven’t watch that yet, it’s on my list… that one is also very different, should be interesting. Coz it looked like they went for fine Korean food which won’t be easy. AND it was in a hanok.

I wonder if they were more reserved in this one because of V from BTS, his popularity…. Like they didn’t even explore Bacalar much, and Bacalar looked so beautiful! they went out so much in Tenerife, I actually don’t even know how Bacalar looks like aside from their backyard and their restaurant! I think it’s also coz none of them can ā€˜really’ cook in this one, like they learnt and practiced hard because of the show. So they definitely became more ā€œproā€/well-prepared and can handle a fast-food restaurant with ease, but in a way they also edited out all those footages and it became too routine/predictable. Have to say it left me slightly disappointed.

Btw, have you watched any of the Cha Seung Won ones? I actually started with those and I think I watched all of them. 🤣 that’s of a slightly different format.
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Replying to MyBallsAreHuge Jul 20, 2023
Its a true comfort show but I have to say it felt a bit repetitive after a while, maybe 5-6 eps would have been…
Try Youn’s Kitchen 2! For some reason they basically only showed the restaurant and customers for most of the 10 episodes in Jinny’s Kitchen, I also felt it became too ā€˜cookie-cutter’ after 5-6 episodes….

Youn’s Kitchen 2 had a much better variation… like they showed a lot more behind-the-scenes and personal time… Also, I think Tenerife was more ā€˜touristy’….? So the customers were more varied…. Like it was more diverse vs. the locals which made their conversation+reactions a lot more interesting and unexpected.
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On Imperfect Victim Jul 18, 2023
LOL. Ep 5 onwards and it’s heading towards drama now…. But still very captivating + intriguing… looks like it will take on a semi-ā€œmakjangā€ approach. 🤣🤣🤣 think it’s blended with a mystery, thriller genre as well.

BUT I still learnt something new…. A glimpse into how cults are formed… and the basis of Stockholm syndrome… šŸ¤“ ah yes, and a whole new understanding to the term ā€˜passive aggressive’
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Replying to baekhyunniee Jul 18, 2023
Title Imperfect Victim Spoiler
I can't figure out what Zhao Xun is thinking... her statements go back and forth
Think they are trying to portray that even she herself isn’t sure wot to make of it at this point in time, coz I think it’s still less than 48 hrs from the time of the incident…

Also, a key factor (which might change as the drama progresses) is that she was very intoxicated…. to the extent that she passed out for part of the night on the couch and then woke up after….. every person’s alcohol tolerance is different…. And this I think is whereby things become super blurry for her and also ambiguous for the other party i.e the guy…. But because the guy is so much more experienced…. I think from the first 4 episodes it’s actually rather equivocal. I personally think it was the guy stepping on a fine line and pushing his luck…. Which I think he is well aware of the next day (or maybe even the night itself) when both of them are perfectly sober and the entire thing blew out of proportion….

Her feelings and thoughts are definitely swaying back and forth… and it differs when she is alone, vs. Her parents, vs. Police, vs the perp… so far they also haven’t shown a firm rejection from her although she appears to be conscious… In fact many people can be awake, responsive whilst heavily intoxicated and experiencing a memory blackout….
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On Imperfect Victim Jul 18, 2023
The first 2 episodes……… 😳😳😳 gosh….. Zhou Xun picking up niche and unique themes…. the questioning bit from the female perspective in the police station….. is so raw and realistic. Jelly Lin was a good pick, am impressed… and Liu Yi Jun really looks and acts the part, can totally imagine/envision someone like that in reality….

I definitely obtained a different type of education and new knowledge….. This highlighted grey areas which I didn’t know were relatively well-defined under the law. It defo piqued my interest and I went on to research… the numbers are alarming even in a country like the US:

ā€œ In the last year, the avalanche of #MeToo accounts has made clear just how pervasive sexual assault is and how few offenders are held accountable. In part that’s because these crimes are very hard to prosecute: In 88 percent of rape cases, the accused and accuser know each other, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, and legal battles often come down to a dispute over whether sex between them was consensual. Only six out of every 1,000 who are accused end up in prison, according to Rainn, the nation’s largest anti-sexual-violence group. This is, presumably, both a cause and effect of the fact that sexual assault is the most underreported crime in the nation, federal data shows, with less than a quarter of assaults brought to the attention of the police.ā€ — source NYTimes.

One thing which the production and screenwriting team did right was to portray that a perpetrator isn’t always brash and violent… in fact they can be super charming, polite, soft-spoken, chivalrous, well-educated AND actually super normal….. basically a Casanova… and in real life…. Things can be really grey even for the victim themselves esp when they are relatively young…. Humans can be swayed by power, money and success….

I’m really curious to see how Zhou Xun’s character develops but the first 4 episodes just sucked me right in….. I watched the trailer after and the plot thickens, becoming more dramatic as it progresses, from the looks of it, it becomes a full-fledge drama, shedding the layer of realism….
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